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Piltover's lack of champions

Chembaron Yamada··42 votes·3,818 views

Hello summoners,

waiting for the next champion to get teasered, I was thinking quite alot about one of my favourite factions in the game, hoping that the next champion will be an addition to it's roster. Piltover is badly in need of new champions, especially since they removed one recently. http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/c/c6/Piltover_Crest.png/revision/latest?cb=20161117163225

Riot released a comic about Ziggs and Jinx, they officially made Ziggs a Zaunite. I completely agree with that decision, since Ziggs always felt more like a Zaunite champion for me. But that means that the current roster of Piltover champions consists of: Caitlyn Camille Ezreal Heimerdinger Jayce Orianna Vi

I wish for this region to get more champions in the future and in this thread, I want to tackle one problem I see in that department. Piltover has a steampunk theme, with some more futuristic aspects. The same goes for Zaun, but Zaun does have more champions. Many champion concepts will naturally go to Zaun, since that city has the aspect of mad scientists, failed experiments, slums and many others.

So in my opinion, we have to contribute some champion themes we would like to see in the future, fitting to Piltover. Therefore, I want you people to share any bit of concept you could imagine for future Pilties. You can contribute anything you like, may it be appearance, personality, kit concepts....

And I would like to make a start.

Hacker with sentient hextech device I would like to get (preferably young female) champion, who is working with Piltover's Finest, but from the background. She should gather information with cameras and give instructions from safe distance. I imagine her having some sociophobia, she doesn't want to interact directly with other people. The only "person" she doesn't mind to interact regularely with is her sentient hextech device, the brackern in the crystal awakened. Most likely being a support.

Criminal We got Caitlyn and Vi as Piltover's Finest, yet the only criminal we got interacting with them directly is Jinx, who is a Zaunite. Jinx is the antagonist for both, but she is more intertwined with Vi when it comes to lore. I would like another criminal, coming from Piltover, who is more related to Caitlyn when it comes to lore. Probably male, being completely different from Jinx. He isn't chaotic, but plans all his crimes thoroughly. Could imagine him being an assassin played in the jungle or mid lane.

Mechanic It is kinda sad that the concept for CeeCee didn't make it through and they used the ideas they had for Braum instead. http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/3/31/Braum_CeeCee_pre-concept.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150307164955 We got champions for this trope, like Heimerdinger, Jayce and Viktor. But looking at these, we notice that these champions are usually damage oriented. I would like to see a mechanic champion, who is more defensive, a tank. Maybe even kit interactions with towers, making him/her the prime anti sieging tank.

To be continued

These were some examples I would enjoy having in the game. ^^ I beg everyone, to share their ideas in this thread to provide Riot some ideas of what the people would like to see in the future.

102 Comments

Meta Noir20 votes

Several Rioters agreed multiple times, that they want to implement Urgot's old Ultimate back in the game with a new Champion…

Hyper-Kinetic Position Reverser was just too much fun to use. A lot of players had a blast with it. The outplays you could create with this ability just felt so rewarding, phew.

A Piltover Tank, who uses a Hextech Device for this whole procedure would just fit perfectly.

Chembaron Yamada5 votes

The champ with that ability should definitely come from Piltover or Zaun, simply because I want to keep the name. Hyper-Kinetic Position Reverser was iconic for it's name and many people were sad that it got deleted.

And Piltover doesn't have a true tank in it's roster, that's something to work with. Any ideas how such a champ could look like or what kind of personality he/she could have? ^^

MooooooooreDakka11 votes

The hacker support concept seems like it could be really cool

GrReaper9611 votes

Boop

Chembaron Yamada10 votes

https://giphy.com/gifs/sombra-Yxg9K0iL4WmaI

Chembaron Yamada3 votes

I actually made a champion concept about it, but didn't get as much feedback as I had liked to.

Mikan, the data huntress

Maybe you will like it. ^^

MooooooooreDakka3 votes

Passive seems cool, especially since it encourages her to roam, maybe give Argo out of combat movespeed to help with that goal and with hunting people down with r? Also, giving her a moving ward seems interesting though the w interaction might be a problem if it moves too fast. I love how the q encourages your whole team to focus a target without benefiting high attack speed allies more than others. It might be better if abilities could also proc it for people who don't auto a lot. E seems fairly basic but solid, I like how it isn't all up front also. As someone who loves running people down as Taliyah support with frost queens I absolutely love the w and r. They nail the character thematic as well as probably being really fun to use. If they made this a champion I'd probably play the hell out of her.

AFilthyCaitMain9 votes

We could work off 'C' in Caitlyns lore. this hasnt been touched in forever

Chembaron Yamada2 votes

Was my initial idea for the "criminal", but I wasn't quite sure if it was confirmed that C is Camille or not. If not, that is definitely a direction they should develope in.

AFilthyCaitMain7 votes

Yeah this has been bugging me ever since Camille was released. I would really like some confirmation on this topic.

underscores2222 votes

Camille is not a master cat bugler, so it is unlikely that it is her. Better speculation is that he (or she) is part of the same "Roman Numerals" group that people suspect Jinx, Vi and Echo belonged to (Jinx being X, Vi being VI, and Echo being IX if I recall correctly)

Personally, I find both theories lacking in substantial evidence, and I suspect that C is more of a lore device to show Cait is not 100% perfect at catching bad guys.

Larius015 votes

On Caitlyn's new lore page: http://universe.leagueoflegends.com/en_US/story/champion/caitlyn/ 'C' is not described as a burglar, but is the person that organized an attack on Caityn's house and kidnapped her parents. Additonaly Camille has a voice line saying: "Don't go looking for something you don't want to find." So I don't think it's that unlikely.

SpecterVonBaren4 votes

Hhm.... Well I did have an idea for a "Shuriman" champion that was from Piltover, let me see if I can find the details on my computer.

EDIT: Ok I found it.

Champion Name: Aral Class: Tank/Fighter General Stats: Moderate durability (Increased by passive) good base damage but poor scaling, low mobility Affiliation: Shurima Friends: Rengar, Rammus Rivals: Rek'Sai

Concept

Personality

Lore Former hunter. Retired to a life in Shurima. Wife was a geologist studying old Shurima and believed there to be a lost source of water that could change the face of Shurima. They went out to find it and their camp was attacked by Rek'Sai and her kin. Aral's machines exploded and caused a fire. Rek'sai ate his wife and his son burned alive. Now pursues Rek'Sai like Ahab, Moby Dick.

Dialogue

Appearance

Abilities

P: Perserverence Whenever Aral is hit by enemy CC, he gains Perserverence, increasing his Armor and MR by 5%, this buff stacks up to six times.

Q: Cathite Harpoon Aral launches his harpoon in a straight line, dealing true damage to all enemies it passes through. After 5 seconds or if Aral activates the ability a second time, the harpoon will return to him, knocking enemy champions it hits towards his location.

W: Hydraulic Hammer Aral fires his hydralic hammer, dealing true damage and knocking back enemies in a short line.

E: Tremor Sensor Aral launches a motion sensor at target location, this sensor will notify him and his team any time an enemy champion passes within its range and lasts 20 seconds or until it is destroyed.

R: Last Stand Aral anchors himself to the ground, making himself unable to move nor be effected by crowd control effects. While in this form, Aral's abilities change and gain reduced cooldowns. This ability lasts 10 seconds

Cathite Harpoon attaches itself to the first enemy champion it hits, making them unable to leave the maximum range of the ability.

Hydraulic Hammer will create a large tremor radiating out from Aral, dealing true damage to all enemies it hits.

Tremor Sensors are replaced with delayed bombs that detonate after 3 seconds, dealing true damage.

Last Stand can be ended early by activating the ability a second time while it is active.

References

https://myanimelist.cdn-dena.com/images/characters/2/320965.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/db/GutsBerserk.PNG

https://img00.deviantart.net/481b/i/2013/211/9/9/ahab_portrait_by_dylanpierpont-d6fv0he.jpg

So I know that you're thinking about one thing "OMG TRUE DAMAGE ON ALL ABILITIES?!" well yes but all of it would be tuned so that it's not a big problem and his scalings would be low and there's no % damage in his kit. I was inspired by Timbersaw from DotA who deals pure (Their version of true) damage with his abilities as well. I just wanted someone that always hit pretty hard but moved slow and lacks the ability to really carry the game.

Lot of these are blank because I never continued my work on him because I focused on three other champion ideas (They were part of my application to Riot) but I could build him up from here if anyone was interested enough.

Chembaron Yamada1 votes

Looking forward to see it. ^^

SpecterVonBaren1 votes

And found the information, post has been edited. Tell me what you think and what we could do with him. [sg-kiko]

Chembaron Yamada2 votes

I like his Ahab theme, being obsessed with hunting Rek'sai. Reading this concept, it would be great if he would use some kind of hextech vehicle in my opinion, something that I would really like to see in this game.

And this vehicle to have a stationary stance is definitely something new, which could be a great idea. A mobile fortress kinda. Since he is meant to be tanky, I would replace some of his true damage with %health damage, but I am no champion designer. ^^

But I definitely like your story hook and hope it gets some attention.

Kuzja14 votes

What about a medic champion? Someone who uses Hextechnology to heal people instead of healing with just magic? I've never seen anyone like that in League.

Or maybe a mage gunner. Basically he/she has a gun as their primary weapon but its attacks are based on ability power.

Maybe give a rifleman a shot. So far we have gunners who use two pistols, a sniper rifle, a pistol paired with a sword, a helicopter with rockets and a machine gun, a rocket launcher paired with a minigun, a blow gun, a handheld cannon, A big arm gun attached to a hideous but lovable abomination, and a shotgun that actually shoots like a shotgun. But we haven't seen a character who uses a rifle. A standard weapon used by an average foot soldier. It could be an assault rifle, it can be a hunting rifle. Though I'd like to see someone use an assault rifle as a primar weapon. Perhaps give details about Piltover's Military.

Speaking of which, there isn't much said about the arsenal of Piltover's Military or if Piltover even has a military. Is the law enforcement also the military? Is it the Megling Gunners? Cause they seem more affiliated with Bandle City.

What about the Screaming Yipsnakes? Corki's current lore (If they do not plan to change it) states that he use to be part of a squadron before they were disbanded. What happen to the rest of the pilots? Are they affiliated with another military group? Do they plan to go back to the battlefield just as Corki did?

I know! How about a tank? Literally a tank. We have Corki who uses a helicopter to fight and Rumble has a mech to make up for his yordle stature so it shouldn't be a problem for another yordle to use a vehicle like a tank. Though this concept would be difficult to pull off because the most efficient tanks always have a crew instead of just one person controlling the machine. But because it's Hextechnology, it shouldn't be a problem for an engineer to design a tank that's used for one person.

I would love to explore these types of champions and play as them in League. But I am willing to make sure that it's balanced with all the other types of champions from different places, but based on how generic looking these new champions are these days (Except for Ornn), then it's okay for more technological champions to come in.

Fairyfleur3 votes

As someone who heavily enjoys Orianna along with Caitlyn, Vi, and Jinx's storyline, I would love to see another champion who fits into either of those groups. Another criminal would be a lot of fun.

I just want more Orianna, Jinx, Caitlyn, or Vi lore :(

Edit: A mechanic that has interactions with towers, inhibitors, or terrain is an amazing concept. I've always loved Azir's passive and would like to see more in the future.

Chembaron Yamada4 votes

Thinking about it, Orianna really feels extremely isolated when it comes to lore. Some isolation is to be expected, her new lore is about her feeling lonely since she is the only of her kind (Camille is augmented, but not completely made out of hextech like Orianna).

Having a new champ with direct ties to Orianna would be interesting. I wonder what kind of personality would fit for this.

Also, thanks for your feedback. Do you have any more ideas what Piltover is lacking right now when it comes to personalities/tropes? ^^

Fairyfleur2 votes

Regarding your last question, I don't have much right now.

But, honestly, league lore is just so interesting to the point that I want entire books published on champions. I would buy a book about Orianna's travels in a heartbeat.

Chembaron Yamada3 votes

The story we got with the Piltover update for Orianna was heartbreaking. Her character definitely deserves alot more attention. And hopefully they will do something about her VO soon, it doesn't match her reworked lore at all anymore.

Lord of Math1 votes

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The story we got with the Piltover update for Orianna was heartbreaking. Her character definitely deserves alot more attention. And hopefully they will do something about her VO soon, it doesn't match her reworked lore at all anymore.

They should make her friends with bard, or at least give them a common friend.

HonestJohnTheCon1 votes

Or be friends with Blitz, y'know, because they are both sentient beings made out of machinery who are genuinely good people.

Fairyfleur1 votes

Orianna is a little bit different since she was originally human, but a friendship between the two sounds good.

Chembaron Yamada4 votes

Basically, they are opposing sides of the same coin. Blitzcrank is a robot, who became concious. Orianna was a human, but replaced her entire body with hextech, basically becoming a robot.

I think they would have a deep understanding for each other. I could even imagine one of them developing a bit more than friendship, maybe giving small hints (not directly calling out they love each other or anything like that).

HonestJohnTheCon2 votes

#ShipperOnDeck

Chembaron Yamada4 votes

https://na.merch.riotgames.com/media/catalog/product/b/l/blitz-crank-0066_copy.png It's not like Riot isn't shipping Blitzcrank for a long time now.

Fairyfleur1 votes

All I want is an updated model, the blood on her passive removed, and some new voice lines. Some already fit, like "Pulse" and "Ravage", but the more bloodthirsty ones are a bit questionable.

underscores2221 votes

I think she also needs to lose her ballerina/dancer look and animations because they kinda removed that part of her story.

Also, how would she relate to vicktor, since he's basically doing the same thing to himself that she went through, though for different reasons.

Fairyfleur2 votes

She admired the work of playwrights and dancers in her story, so I think that part should still stay; even if she doesn't do it much herself.

Kurjao3 votes

I was once under the impression that we would get a shadow isle champion every Halloween Hecarim Kalista Karthus Elise Mordekaiser Thresh YorickEvelynn Lucian

Give me another spooky ghost person, Riot

Chembaron Yamada2 votes

I plan to make a series of threads like these in the next time, including the Shadow Isles. I will notify you then, if you want me to.

Chembaron Yamada1 votes

I made the thread about the Shadow Isles.

Chime in if you are still interested. ^^

Hovering Hentai2 votes

Camille was released almost a year ago I don't think there'll be another Piltovan quite so soon. The void is in need of way more love that Piltover right now both interms of champions and lore update

Chembaron Yamada4 votes

While this is true, I don't think that is a proper argument if you keep in mind that we recently got 3 champions from Ionia in a row. Rakan Xayah Kayn

And Ionia is definitely not in need of champions, that faction actually has the most champions of all. I agree that the Void is in need of new champions, same goes for Mount Targon, Bilgewater, Bandle City....

But I wanted to do something, since the main problem about Piltover for me is that this region is really specific when it comes to themes. The Void has many possibilities, since every "predator beast" can basically come from there. Bandle City can basically include any yordle you can think of. Demacia is the "good fantasy region", while Noxus is the "evil fantasy land".

What about Piltover? It's theme is tied to technology. But it is not alone with that. Zaun has a technology theme as well and Zaun will just occupy alot of concepts. Therefore I wanted to create a discussion for themes which exclusively work for Piltover, so we can even out the number of Pilties compared to Zaunites.

Not taking away future champions for the Void. Just wanting to give fuel for Riot to think about. Look at CeeCee. That champion was initially a concept for a Piltover female mechanic. But they reworked it for Braum, since they felt that the shielding archetype fits more in a fantasy thematic. I want to avoid stories like these in favor of my favourite region.

Lord of Math3 votes

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While this is true, I don't think that is a proper argument if you keep in mind that we recently got 3 champions from Ionia in a row. Rakan Xayah Kayn

And Ionia is definitely not in need of champions, that faction actually has the most champions of all. I agree that the Void is in need of new champions, same goes for Mount Targon, Bilgewater, Bandle City....

But I wanted to do something, since the main problem about Piltover for me is that this region is really specific when it comes to themes. The Void has many possibilities, since every "predator beast" can basically come from there. Bandle City can basically include any yordle you can think of. Demacia is the "good fantasy region", while Noxus is the "evil fantasy land".

What about Piltover? It's theme is tied to technology. But it is not alone with that. Zaun has a technology theme as well and Zaun will just occupy alot of concepts. Therefore I wanted to create a discussion for themes which exclusively work for Piltover, so we can even out the number of Pilties compared to Zaunites.

Not taking away future champions for the Void. Just wanting to give fuel for Riot to think about. Look at CeeCee. That champion was initially a concept for a Piltover female mechanic. But they reworked it for Braum, since they felt that the shielding archetype fits more in a fantasy thematic. I want to avoid stories like these in favor of my favourite region.

Can we get someone on AurelionSol Bard level from the void? Or someone related to Illaoi ?

Hovering Hentai2 votes

You're definitely right about Ionia that region is somewhere we really need to take a break from in terms of champions

HonestJohnTheCon2 votes

I had an idea for a Piltover champion who had a blade with a sentient Brackern crystal embedded in it. His gameplay fantasy was mostly for his passive, where his autoattacks ignore shields if you charge it up (basically meaning use spells or autos on champions five times in a row). And in his ultimate he sent out his blade, allowing him to control it, with the blade auto-attacking from a distance without him having to stop moving (however, he himself cannot auto or cast spells during this time).

His lore, though, was basically him being an amoral sociopath, which is something we already have in Viktor (and to a lesser extent, Camille), but instead of Viktor wanting to purge all emotion, he messes with people's minds to manipulate them into private wealth. He sees both people and his sentient blade as mere tools for his private gain. Rather than Viktor's extreme idealism, he just doesn't care. The only joy he gets is from conning and trolling people, kind of like Tahm Kench, but he uses more science rather than persuasion.

Chembaron Yamada2 votes

I really like the idea. Crafting with the concept of a sentient hextech device myself, I would like to see something like your concept. It would be an alternate version of Kayn and Rhaast, they are talking with each other, but they are not opposing, working together instead.

And the idea of having a hextech blade cutting through shields is awesome, imagine a cinematic with him!

HonestJohnTheCon3 votes

I would LOVE a cinematic with him, that would be sick. I'm considering posting him on the C&C board, but I've only played for a year. I had an idea for him being a non-marksman in the botlane, with him solving a lot of problems in the meta right now (marksman is the only role played bottom, shields are very good right now, etc.). I'm not very good at gameplay.

Also I was thinking his sentient blade would probably be making humming noises, with only him (and possibly Skarner) being able to understand it. The Brackern dislikes him but goes along with it because he's at least alive and there's a chance for rescue. Some ideas I had for possible taunts are: (To Vi) "Your weapons and your words are too blunt to make an impact." (To Jinx) "Talking to your weapons is insane. (in mock surprise) Wait a minute..." (To Gangplank) "Why play at nobility? I can help you seize your kingdom back." (To Tahm Kench) "...you do realize that you're terrible at what you do, right?" (To Skarner) "Thousands of years of memories means thousands of years of suffering." (To Skarner) "Your kind is resource, just like all living things."

Azteryz2 votes

well considering we got camille fairly recently i dont expect to see another piltover champ in awhile (rip)

that being said if we were to base off of factions on which faction hasnt had a champ in awhile i think it would be (correct me if im wrong)

a demacian with lucian being the last new champion originating from there

Chembaron Yamada2 votes

We got 3 champions from Ionia in a row, Camille doesn't stop the development of new Pilties.

And the faction the longest ago would be Bandle City, Lulu was the last champ from there.

Fasmodey1 votes

Ionia is a whole continent, not an half city like Piltover. Piltover is so freaking small it is even hard to see on map.

I get it, you're Piltover lover, but you deny the size of factions. Some factions will always be smaller than others and I can't see better options than Piltover and Targon.

Piltover should always stay smaller than other factions. Hell, even Shurima as a whole continent has just 2 more champions than Piltover.

Zaun is full of experiments, so creating champions from there is easier than Piltover that is mostly about augmented rich humans.

Chembaron Yamada2 votes

Does size really matter here? That gets contradicted kinda by

  1. Zaun, just an "half city" like Piltover, yet has 12 champions.
  2. Void. By your logic, the Void should get the most champions, since that faction represents an entire dimension on it's own.

See, I don't even say Ionia shouldn't get new champions. My main argument was just that Ionia proves that we can still get a new Piltie soon, even if we got Camille recently.

Fasmodey1 votes

Bigger doesnt need to necessarily mean more but smaller should mean less IMO.

That's what I dont like about Piltover and Zaun. They are freaking small factions with full of champions. They make Runeterra feel small. Shurima and Void as factions have so much potential champions but they have less than Zaun. And they are far bigger.

In old lore, they were countries and bigger. That can be their excuse. But future of lore should have far less Piltover and Zaun champions.

I dont want a point where %0.02 of population of Zaun are champions.

Chembaron Yamada2 votes

Bigger doesn't necessarily mean more but smaller should mean less IMO.

That doesn't really work if you look at it logically. If you say that smaller countries should have less champions, then this mean in reversion that bigger countries should have more.

And that Zaun and Piltover have a higher % of champions in their population kinda makes sense for me. Piltover and Zaun are not ordinary cities. They are cultural melting pots, since these cities are the most advanced when it comes to technology and Piltover is probably the biggest trading point in Runeterra. It's no surprise that a place like that is luring extraordinary people.

In case of Zaun, there is another aspect. The nature of Zaun works as a catalysator. Look for example at demacia. It is a country hunting mages (so: magic usually won't create alot of champions in that area, exceptions will be there but it is rare, like Lux), it's technology is limited to medieval level. Basically, extraordinary people from there are mostly just well trained soldiers.

Now look at Zaun. This city has so many ways of creating power. Warwick was a normal guy, but Singed used his chemtech to turn him into a monster, worthy of the title of a champion. The chemical waste of Zaun was able to create new life forms out of basically nothing, like Twitch and Zac. Inventions are made on a daily basis, giving Zaun new champions like Ekko and Blitzcrank.

And so on. While the chemical waste doesn't matter for Piltover, the fact that they are progressing alot faster than other cities in the world gives opportunity for people who are beyond ordinary.

I understand that you don't like Piltover and Zaun, but in my opinion, every faction in this game deserves to get represented at least slightly equally in this game.

Sexy Jack Rabbit1 votes

We could really go for a new female tank. We only have Sejuani Poppy andLeona. 2 of which aren't very unique. It'd be nice to see a female hextech golem like Blitzcrank (Not with the hook of course).

Maybe recycling some of CeeCee's design for the kit would be great.

Chembaron Yamada2 votes

I agree that we could use another female tank, especially since Piltover doesn't have any hard tanks at all. But I got to say that I think a female hextech golem would probably clash a bit much with Orianna.

Neamean3 votes

https://d1u1mce87gyfbn.cloudfront.net/media/artwork/orisa-concept.jpg

feminine blitz you say

Thilmer1 votes

I think Blitzcrank is from Piltover too.

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