Zoe is not the aspect herself

Chembaron Yamada··30 votes·2,549 views

According to the biography, it seems that Zoe is a vessel, just like Diana, Taric, Leona and so on. Maybe her bond to the aspect is much deeper than the others, however, Zoe was not the aspect of twilight from the start.

So it is possible for a human to ascend to the same power level as Aurelion Sol, her favourite space doggy. [slayer-jinx-wink]

Quite interesting.

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Talos of Altmora5 votes

I would say Horrifying. She's a messenger, and yet she's toe-to-toe with a living WMD.

Chembaron Yamada11 votes

While she may be a messenger, it seems that her position among the aspects is kinda high.

I mean, she is supposed to herald major changes in the world. It's not like she is wandering around, remembering people that Pantheon's birthday is in a week and they should buy a present.

Where she appears, big stuff is going to happen, world changing stuff. She is more like an omen of great events.

ULTRAF0RCE9 votes

She is someone who in her Bio says defends Aurelion Sol's stars from Pantheon so she must pull quite a lot of weight, I guess out of the known vessels she's the one that has existed the longest and seems most to be paired up with the aspect whereas the others seem to be controlled by their aspect to some extent.

Talos of Altmora6 votes

Keep in mind she doesn't seem to care that the Lunari are gone, her family and friends are dead, and she rutinley has to save world from their immenent doom, and yet she still has the mind of a child. It's speculation, but I think her aspect is trying to surpress those 'unhappy thoughts.'

Wrathof3007 votes

This depends on what going on behind the scenes, even though her religion was wiped out and she is a child, she has insight to the bigger picture, something we readers don't. As far as we know she didn't have anyone she was emotionally attached to when she left, of course it could simply have been a fact Riot overlooked, but we cant say for sure.

Talos of Altmora1 votes

She, but she's still human. Everyone has someone they care about, and those she did are dead, Lunari or no. I'm thinking Riot forgot.

Wrathof3002 votes

This is another reason why she is so desperate for connection. The fact is, whoever it is she left behind that day, she would have had to move on, replacing them with Pantheon and AurelionSol. Even if Riot honestly forgot, its not as though they are of importance to Zoe anymore.

Talos of Altmora3 votes

Why would she want to relate to the body-stealing horror? No one likes him. Taric and Sol have made it clear that he's the worst of the lot (and that's saying something). She also treats Sol like garbage; I mean, she treats a being that her people enslaved and forced to fight on behalf of like a dog. I can understand some teasing, but that's just cruel.

Look, we don't know what Zoe thought about her life, but she would have had normal relationships there. I mean, do you think you'd treat your parents' memories as less important? It's part of being human, caring about others. I mean, she doesn't seem to show any care that her old life is gone. She hardly even cares how her world changed. It's just not human or natural.

Chembaron Yamada3 votes

About the Aurelion Sol part: that guy has always acted overbearing arrogant towards mortals and was/is belittling everyone.

I don't really have any mercy and find it quite funny to see that aspect in the body of a little girl taking down his pride by belittling him herself now.

And I love when she says "my space doggy". [slayer-jinx-wink]

Talos of Altmora2 votes

About the Aurelion Sol part: that guy has always acted overbearing arrogant towards mortals and was/is belittling everyone.

Yes, because he is a cosmic being who is meant to be more than the Targonian's superweapon. That is the only escape he has from his masters.

I don't find the fact a little girl is talking down a being older then life itself, that literally made the stars themselves. A being who her people enslaved and used as a weapon, and whenever he tried to fight back, something he loved, one of his stars, is destroyed.

Zoe is not messing with an egotistical jerk, she's messing with an egotistical jerk who has suffered for thousands of years under her people's hands, has the power to be used as a galactic WMD, and who is slowly regaining his freedom and has a hell of a grudge against Targon as a whole.

Yes, i love it when she calls him a "space Doggy" to, because I doubt she'll call him that after he's free.

Beyond Legends3 votes

She isn't “human”, her mentality is of un caring and aloofnes is perhaps the reason why targon choose her to become an aspect. She isn't bound a your average human costrant that allows her to process the cosmic insight that targon have.

Talos of Altmora2 votes

So she's a sociopath? and the Aspect's target sociopaths? Well, guess that explains new Leona.

Beyond Legends6 votes

They only apear “sociopathic” or morally wrong to you because your constrant by human limitations. Just as we do not care for the lives and suffering of ants, the gods don't care lowerly mortals either other than a select few

Also why do you think all aspect are the same? It's blatantly stated that each aspect has a different criteria when it comes to choosing their host.

I'm sorry leona isn't sone generic dnd paladin of an rip off the abrahamic faith, who only charasitic is that she is diabeticly nice.

Talos of Altmora3 votes

They only apear “sociopathic” or morally wrong to you because your constrant by human limitations. Just as we do not care for the lives and suffering of ants, the gods don't care lowerly mortals either other than a select few

Yes, I am human. we're all human. I don't see my humanity as a limitation, because I love my fellow humans just the way they are. In fiction, i am not partial to beings treating fellow sentient beings as ants, as i am sure you yourself would take issue with being called an ant.

Also why do you think all aspect are the same? It's blatantly stated that each aspect has a different criteria when it comes to choosing their host.

They all share the same goal; stop the void. While each Aspect has a certain choice of preferred meatsuit, they don't seem to care much about the people their supposedly protective of. Hell I can see them thinking of their hosts as disposable. Point is, the aspects chose those who they can easily manipulate.

I'm sorry leona isn't sone generic dnd paladin of an rip off the abrahamic faith, who only charasitic is that she is diabeticly nice.

Yeah, now she acts more like she belongs to this group of lovely ladies. I mean, she comes across as so nice when she sounds like she set someone on fire and is sneering at their screams. Such a deep and 3 dimensional character![zombie-brand-facepalm]

Wrathof3003 votes

The only reason Taric dislikes Panth, is likely the fact he is the Aspect of 'War', Pantheon inhabiting Atreus' body was a conscious decision made by Atreus when he gave himself up, though the fact remains it is cruel, its not as that he literally stole his body. Zoe's interactions with him are probably based on getting in his way and being a nuisance as he is likely the most important/ active Targonian when it comes to monitoring Aurelion Sol.

She hardly even cares how her world changed. It's just not human or natural.

Yep, riot basically described her as an ancient being, so its likely that after the millennia fused with her aspect, she is more celestial than human now.

Talos of Altmora4 votes

The only reason Taric dislikes Panth, is likely the fact he is the Aspect of 'War', Pantheon inhabiting Atreus' body was a conscious decision made by Atreus when he gave himself up, though the fact remains it is cruel, its not as that he literally stole his body.

Expect it did. Unlike the other aspects, Pantheon is the one in charge, and Atreus was nowhere to be seen. In fact, they threw a funeral for him, because it's a known fact that Pantheon's host just don't come back.

Yep, riot basically described her as an ancient being, so its likely that after the millennia fused with her aspect, she is more celestial than human now.

Except she still acts like a regular kid. I mean, I personally believe the aspects warp the minds of their hosts, but the majority of them are still human, I mean Taric still cares for his friends and Demacia. Isn't it kind of horrifying to lose your humanity? Isn't that what makes Viktor a villain? Geez that's creepy as hell.

Chembaron Yamada4 votes

Viktor is not a villain. His world view might differ from yours, but he definitely isn't evil.

He doesn't force anything on people. He doesn't kidnap people to transform them into robots. He is just looking for solutions for the problems of society.

He is informing you about his opinion about it and offers a solution to you, but you still have to agree to be part of his glorious evolution.

If you refuse, nothing is gonna happen to you and your precious organs.

Talos of Altmora1 votes

Yes, but Viktor sees himself as right for rejecting his humanity. His so-called "glorious evolution" is merely removing everything that makes a person human. It's horrifying, because what it is in the end is a cult. Give me your organs, and I will ascend you to perfection.

I like Viktor, but he's not a moral person. In fact, I doubt he is even capable of morals at this point, only of pursuing his 'progress'. he may offer you a choice, but it's with the belief that you will accept eventually.

iamthegoatofwar1 votes

look I'm just saying if I have to pick malzahar force sacrificing me, or the mad robot dude who respects the fact I want nothing to do with his damn army I'm going with the robot guy. Malz is way more fucked than viktor is.

At least from what I understand with Viktor you're safe.

Baron of Bread1 votes

Probably safer with Viktor than with Demacia, the classic "hero" faction.

iamthegoatofwar1 votes

Yha I can probably agree with that. Demacia just executes anyone with a different view from the way I see it. At least with viktor "are you here to join the GLORIOUS REVELOUTION?!" "Uh...just my uh left arm about elbow down if you don't mind...?" "GLORIOUS"

Stars Shaper3 votes

Remember that Zoe went on for millenia with the brain and behaviors of a careless child and hasn't evolved her personality to a more mature one. She always plays. She doesn't even know how her role works.

Imagine now an over energetic spoiled child having to deal with a "pet" who is kinda grumpy, doesn't take her into consideration and is powerful as A-Sol is. She would just go spoiled-anime kid screaming at his pet to play tag and obey her will to play. It's not that she has or hasn't repsect for him, she doesn't even comprehend what respect means.

Talos of Altmora2 votes

ALL the aspects are omen's of great events, mostly of the "oh shit, the void is going to eat us!" thing. She's someone who goes places to fix things, however, she also runs around and goofs off. She has all the power of a god, and yet she's just a child. Her lore also implies the other aspects try to keep her out of their affairs, as she spent a lot of time away from the others. That's why she's so curious about the other slave, sorry i mean hosts of the aspects.

WOOOOOOOOHOOOOOO2 votes

I mean, Atreus kinda knew what he was signing up for, it makes sense that Pantheon is the most direct and overbearing of the Aspects because that's what war is. You need soldiers who follow orders, not a lot of room for individuality. For Zoe, it makes much more sense for the Aspect of Twilight to look for an incredible sense of individuality and playfulness, as that would make the most sense for a trickster.

Stars Shaper5 votes

After reading the Lore I think that Zoe is more of an attempt of Targon to have something like Bard.

I liked how there is no real mention of power levels at all and the fact that she just finds Aurelion Sol attitude annoying rather than hating him (she might actually love him in a way children love their grumpy pets). My initial firing up against her has subsided for now.

Chembaron Yamada4 votes

She really does have much in common with Bard when it comes to her powers. So Bard is solely driven by being a protector of the universe, or saying it another way: he is the wandering caretaker, she is wandering carelessly.

About power levels: even if it is meant in a comedic way, her short story states that she thinks it is harder to catch a squirrel than catching Aurelion Sol. Don't know how to take this. Maybe Zoe is really able to catch him herself or it was just extremely exaggerated for humourous purposes.

Stars Shaper3 votes

It's quite the opposite: If she chases the squirrel she might incinerate it even if she tries her best not to, while Aurelion Sol can very well sustain her chases without getting hurt.

That's how I read it.

Chembaron Yamada3 votes

That's how I understand it as well. The point I was talking about is: while she doesn't blow him up, she is still able to catch him. Like being able to force him to stay in a place for some time, overpowering him for a moment.

Like I said: just not sure if that was exaggerated, or she is really able to do that.

Stars Shaper3 votes

Sol is still under the effect of the crown which leads him to "obey" Targon. But more than that I think that Zoe finds fun in chasing things and Aurelion Sol can easily withstand her full carelessness.

Sexy Jack Rabbit1 votes

There is canon art of her capturing Aurelion sol.

It's safe to assume she is capable of controlling him

Stars Shaper1 votes

Harassing him you mean xD

Remember that she is an hyperactive kid, while she surely can use the crown and her powers to limit him I don't think she would do it before having some fun.

Fairyfleur4 votes

I really need to start reading each champion's lore; I'm missing so much for only reading my favorite regions/champs. https://i.gyazo.com/6fae9c3d16e2d4b5b06d0b030e5f049d.png

Chembaron Yamada4 votes

Indeed, league's lore is fascinating. Still going to fanboy way more about Piltover and Zaun stuff, though. [sg-lulu]

And not that I don't appreciate the kitty, but why? [sg-miss-fortune]

Fairyfleur4 votes

because I feel bad about not being caught up https://i.gyazo.com/ec5694a931308c850025ca4c06169a06.png

Chembaron Yamada4 votes

Poor fairy Fleur. [sg-soraka]

I wish you alot of fun in League universe.

Fairyfleur3 votes

ty <3 [sona-playing]

Also, I think I prefer Fleur as a nickname more.

Chembaron Yamada1 votes

Ok, noted. ^^

Fairyfleur1 votes

Quite a bit off-topic, but do you know where Lincoln and Rubick went? I'm not connected to anybody on the boards outside of the boards and they seem to have vanished along with a few others.

Chembaron Yamada3 votes

Sorry, no idea either. Same as you, don't have connections outside of the boards to anyone.

Maybe they take a break from League and are coming back next season. =/

Fairyfleur1 votes

Ah, thanks!

It'd be nice if there was a discord server for story art & sound.

TyrekGoldenspear1 votes

Rubick and Lincoln both got permabanned from what I heard.

Chembaron Yamada1 votes

Buuuuuut don't they usually make a new account?

Fairyfleur1 votes

That's what I thought, but I guess they just got tired of the boards?

Chembaron Yamada2 votes

You bullied them, didn't you? Confess! [sg-syndra]

Hovering Hentai3 votes

Apparently the Lunari exist now in lore they're just scarce

HonestJohnTheCon3 votes

Pretty sure that Diana's trying to jump-start the religion and make it not completely despised in Targon. Other than the obvious "kill the Void" goal that has been seemingly universal throughout the Aspects, that seems her main goal.

Stars Shaper4 votes

The Lunari are alive but live in secrecy as a sect. The Lunari training Zoe where from a time when both them and the Solari coexisted (Zoe is from millenia in the past from Runeterra present time).

SolarisCorvus3 votes

I really hate zoe's character and most targonians. Cant wait for a story in which A sol is free.

Stars Shaper3 votes

You do realize that Aurelion Sol free = Targon goes extinct, do you? :3

Wrathof3001 votes

How exactly is she on Sol's power level?

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