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Valaran Nara27 votes

Wait, guys. It's a miracle. This is a "teaser" video that actually HAS lore. I mean, seriously. It's technically lore/background because it actually spoke about a past and not just a singular moment(s) in time. Like ekko. :D We got info guys! INFO!!!

KING OF MASKS11 votes

Can't wait to read his 2-3 sentence lore piece when he's released! :^)

But in all seriousness you're right, this is actually a pretty good teaser lore-wise.

Virgin Ray7 votes

Tamm is the River King. Tamm wears a top hat. Tamm killed a wife. -Riot Games

Lavasioth3 votes

The funny thing is a lot of LoL lore fans know twice as much about the lore then the actual Lore team

Shíny16 votes

Just a hopeful theory: I'm hoping they use the big guy here to go ahead and flesh out the serpentine river The banks of the river was where Twisted Fate was originally from,possibly making the area have an interesting gypsy/ new orleans theme to it.

Also on the gameplay side of things Riot had said they prototyped a "swallowing" mechanic with gnar, I'm hoping they bring it back for Tamm here.

Lich Bane Sona8 votes

I think that a New Orleans style area would be great, and the Serpentine River could make a great Mississippi River analogue. For a more fantasy vibe, they could even do a floating city or put it on stilts in the river. It would really be cool to have a swampy area around, too. They even had a marsh and bog on the river's banks in the old map, although I can't ever recall them being mentioned in lore.

I may be a bit biased here, as I'm from Louisiana.

Kingsgrave1 votes

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I think that a New Orleans style area would be great, and the Serpentine River could make a great Mississippi River analogue. For a more fantasy vibe, they could even do a floating city or put it on stilts in the river. It would really be cool to have a swampy area around, too. They even had a marsh and bog on the river's banks in the old map, although I can't ever recall them being mentioned in lore.

I may be a bit biased here, as I'm from Louisiana.

The floating city exists already as Bilgewater

Lich Bane Sona8 votes

Huh. I always got an 'on the cliffs over the sea' vibe out of bilgewater, where it's made of docks and stuff, but attached to the land.

LeeDark3 votes

As a native Cajun, I really hope they don't do this. I, for one, am sick of seeing the bayou stereotypes in movies and on TV; I don't want them in my game, too.

Lich Bane Sona7 votes

Woo! Nice to see another Cajun around!

I think that, as long as it would be handled correctly, and given a unique spin on the idea, then it could be cool.

Louisiana has a very distinct mix of cultures and influences that doesn't happen anywhere else in the world, and I think that this unique flavor can be a great source of inspiration for a high-magic game such as League. Fantasy Egypt works, fantasy China/Japan works, based on strong, unique cultural stereotypes and symbols that we have for these places. Why not Louisiana?

Calibretto916 votes

Catfish with a top hat. #winning

GreenLore6 votes

He's like gentleman cho'gaths best friend.

shadecrapper15 votes

Gromp getting promoted to a champion? FINALLY!!!!!

Davy Crockett9 votes

This video is too creepy... I'm not sure I will like this champion.

Sharjo7 votes

I love this whole video, and Tamm (if that's his name) seems like a really cool character.

I can't tell if it's Bilgewater or something else at the end, but I feel like the whole "You let me in" line could refer to this King of the Rivers being let loose in to the oceans, but I dunno.

Also there was a scuttle crab in there! Guess they're native to more places than the Rift.

Lich Bane Sona7 votes

These seem to be getting taken down.

Really dig the kind of catfish vibe he's got going on. Too often, water related characters are based on ocean related things, and completely forget about freshwater.

I also liked how the story shifts from seeming to be from the perspective of the gambler to the perspective of the monster himself.

Some discussion points:

  • Lore connections - TwistedFate , Evelynn (possible, tenuous)

  • "Hunger" as motivation - is this explored space? KogMaw

  • Is the "deal" a recurring thing? - He mentions needing 'men' (that is, plural), but he implies at the end that he has achieved his end.

  • Singing - Siren songs are a popular theme. Simply a story device, or does it point to in game abilities?

Kingsgrave10 votes

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These seem to be getting taken down.

Really dig the kind of catfish vibe he's got going on. Too often, water related characters are based on ocean related things, and completely forget about freshwater.

I also liked how the story shifts from seeming to be from the perspective of the gambler to the perspective of the monster himself.

Some discussion points:

  • Lore connections - TwistedFate , Evelynn (possible, tenuous)

  • "Hunger" as motivation - is this explored space? KogMaw

  • Is the "deal" a recurring thing? - He mentions needing 'men' (that is, plural), but he implies at the end that he has achieved his end.

  • Singing - Siren songs are a popular theme. Simply a story device, or does it point to in game abilities?

If he doesn't have a Banjo skin I'm going to be super disappointed.

Interesting to note as well that he was shown in pictures to be wearing clothes. He seems to be a giant reference to old folktales of people being lead into a Swamp to be murdered.

Sharjo2 votes

Another note for the observant, when you can see his head clearest in the water he's actually got his top hat on.

Chaotic Reks7 votes

Wow, Shen's ultimate skin looks promising

Kingsgrave6 votes

His story is almost exactly Little Shop of Horrors. Lmao

No doubt from Bilgewater, especially since it's in the background at the end.

Mob Psycho 1005 votes

So the laughing in the river was his thing? Not GP?

ZA WARUDO WRYY5 votes

lol this is him

Raxistaicho4 votes

Third male champion in a row, huh Riot?

Sharjo25 votes

Yes, because they made Bard, Ekko and this King of the Rivers male.

What's wrong with that?

jade harley BARK4 votes

Since I've started playing league I've seen 7 new male champions and 2 new female. Honestly it'd be nice to get a few more new ladies :P. I remember seeing somewhere Riot wants to add diversity to the female champion pool, and I'd love to see that actually be delivered.

Sharjo24 votes

Ah ok, let me actually paint you a picture then; Last female champion before Kalista and Rek'Sai was Jinx, with 5 lads being released between them. It's not as bad as it could be I assure you! League definetly needs more ladies, I agree though.

jade harley BARK3 votes

Yeah I'm definitely not saying they don't release female champions often, but I'd like to see some balance with what is released, yknow? Like, not too fond of the 5 males to 2 females ratio. Give me more monstrous females, too, rito ;_;

Noam Braumsky4 votes

Bard and Velkoz could hardly even be described as having genders sexes. As far as I know, Void creatures don't generally reproduce sexually (RekSai possibly being the exception), and Bard just kind of... is.

ULTRAF0RCE2 votes

Rek'sai is probably queen like queen bees or ants not reporducing sexually but laying eggs possibly?

jade harley BARK3 votes

I'd like to think of her as like the queen ant. Little xer'sai's running around is a pretty cute idea imo.

DarkTryst2 votes

Cross between Malzahar's passive Rek'sai?

Jarrito23217 votes

Is Bard a male? Does Bard have a gender?

Sharjo14 votes

He's addressed as male but it's probably a Blitzcrank thing since Bard's kinda made of stardust and stuff. This is why distinctions between sex and gender exist; sex is physical, gender is mental. Bard has no sex since he's not a physical being with no identifiable male parts, but is considered male by people at large, and perhaps even by himself.

ArkenStorm3 votes

Bard has no boobs. therefore, he is male.

RIP Tahm Kench28 votes

Jinx is a male crossdresser?

Sukishoo6 votes

Yeah, Jinx is flat chested, that could totally be male XD

Oshlet25 votes

Is gragas a woman then?

Sharjo18 votes

Renekton has no boobs, yet no crocodiles, including female ones, have boobs, therefore your judgement is flawed good sir.

Profirix3 votes

His name is TAMM and hes the RIVER king.

CLEVER GIRL!

yay nibbers3 votes

Elvis release skin pls

_The _ River King

A Superb Villain2 votes

Gods ain't gonna help ya son You'll be sorry for whatcha done

Newb the Legend2 votes

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Gods ain't gonna help ya son You'll be sorry for whatcha done

YES! I am not the only one reminded of the narrator from Bastion

Good Be3r2 votes

What if it's not a champion but a new goal on the map. Maybe to get a buff or something for X minutes, and after that the River King get it back... With profits (so a kind of debuff)...

Only Play Darius1 votes

I think his ult is going to be similar to Chogath's except if it executes the enemy champion, it extends their death timer by 90 seconds or so, and steals all their unspent gold. Would make thematic sense and be quite interesting.

Lich Bane Sona4 votes

Unfortunately, I don't think that either one of those things would be particularly good for the game.

Extended death timer is a neat idea, however I can think of a couple problems with it. First, 90 seconds is a huge amount of time! End game death timers are only about a minute or so, and tacking on an extra minute and a half on top of that would be crazy. Remember, 2.5 minutes is 5 waves of minions! Second, if it added less time, it wouldn't feel impactful. There's still a lot of power to that, but it's harder to notice and doesn't provide immediate impact.

Stealing unspent gold isn't something I can see coming to League. Again, two problems: First, League, unlike DOTA, has income as a constant increase. That is, as the game goes on, your income only goes up, and so your power only goes up. (Notice that there is a tax for changing items, but this is a separate issue) Second, the amount that this could change the gold differential between teams would make it the most valuable thing in League. Consider a carry. Oftentimes they will have 1.5k gold before backing. Stealing this carry's gold would be the same amount of gold as two towers, as well as denying the carry about 10 WAVES worth of cs.

While both of these abilities are interesting, unique, and make thematic sense, I don't think that either of them is a good fit for league.

Tarren123 votes

I think that the eating part of his character will be reflected in a sort of "teammate taxi service." In the video he gobbled up the gambler before spitting him out at a far away destination. If this is the case then he's very likely to have "support" on his primary or secondary tags. I could see Riot adding more champions that have control over your allies' movement after Thresh , Kalista , and Bard .

Only Play Darius1 votes

A support who shows up later and consumes everything his teammate has earned?

IcyPepper2 votes

sounds more like an adc who does that

DarkTryst2 votes

It would be pretty mid, cool to 'swallow' a teammate, then show up in lane looking vulnerable and then suddenly boom! 2v1 LMAO! Especially if being 'swallowed' hid your teammate's map presence.

SpecterVonBaren2 votes

This is Lifestealer.

http://media.steampowered.com/apps/dota2/posts/lifestealer_full.jpg

This is Lifestealer's ult.

Infest http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/613897969561053431/7E29EB09794341992D8C1FECD551DB4A3D85311C/

Lifestealer infests the body of a target unit, becoming undetectable inside. He can then explode from the host body, dealing damage to nearby enemies. If the infested unit is an enemy creep or a neutral creep, he can take control of the unit's ability to move and attack and when consumed the creep will heal Lifestealer's health equal to the creep's current health. Does not work on enemy heroes.

And yes, it is fun.

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