Ekko comic

Only because if you ask what we learned before, the answer is "Almost nothing."

To be fair, it could've been one of those "I know what's coming but I can't speak out on it." He underestimated how impatient we are with the lore drought and waiting though.

Ekko didn't actually kill him. When the Z-Drive got shot Ekko had to make a choice. Kill the guy or be with his friend in his last moments. Ekko chose to be with his friend.

Ekko uses the kind of morality that most people use: My family above everything else.

And by the way, I'm not defending stealing but defending yourself by shooting an unarmed 12 year old boy is pretty heinous.

If I'm interpreting it correctly the guy isn't dead. Ekko went after him in one of the time lines, but when the guy shot ekko's device it damaged it while setting it off one last time. In the final time line ekko knows he doesn't have enough time to go after the guy and make it to his friend before he dies. Instead of letting his anger control him and taking revenge he races to his friend to be there for him and comfort him before he dies. Although I can definitely see where you're coming from I can't agree ekko is a bad guy at all.

which is why he said that they should release them outside of champion releases or retcons.....

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Well, were you expecting a full-blown web-comic? Honest question, because for me, that was a fair amount of pages.

Like I said, for it's length it's very well drawn. As far as what I was expecting, I was hoping for something that told me more about Ekko.

I think a big issue here is that comics and videos are supposed to be supplementing the longer lore, not replacing it.

Well, until or unless the company decided to prioritize releasing longer lores at any time, all we're getting right now are the supplements.

It's like having a holiday dinner with all the trimmings, but the actual "meat" is just a picture of a turkey. Some people are okay with a serving of mashed potatoes and salad only, but I need something substantial that I can chew on.

That was a fair amount of pages because we are used to getting nothing. Yes, I would expect a full comic if they want to go that way. A full comic can be put out in a month, obviously, and they have far longer than that between champions.

I'd argue the only reason anyone could be happy with this is that Riot has lowered expectations on lore so far that anything counts as good.

It's fun certainly, but can't be used in lieu of actual story telling. This isn't House of Leaves. I like to discuss known things rather than fan theories. The lines can be fine and I tend to look at them on a case by case basis. I'm not really interested in someone projecting a huge amount onto minimal details. It's pointless to me because any theory put forth would be equally valid because there's no hard facts to deny it or to privilege one theory above another.

There's an area between 'A being did something' and 'Iverson Mitchell III, 40 years 9 months 2 days 3 hours old, with 1,020,423 hairs on his head...' One is too little information, one is too much.

Debating what a character should do is different than making details out of minimal evidence. Riot lately has a problem of putting forth not enough details to flesh out out a character enough, veering too close to 'A being did something.'

But even in the best of stories what drives it are answers.

as of now we barely know anything. all we know is he's a generic street punk with connections to Vi and Jinx. We know he's a mechanic like Vi. and he has a chaotic neutral stance about him.

but know what sucks? we dont know jack else about why he is how he is. who the hell is the Kid who died? until Vi and jinx get VO updates (which wont be for a while) we'll never know, and frankly we dont care. who was this Kid to Ekko? he was willing to use time over and over again to save this Kid, and that's all we get.

please do remember, this is not some long running serial, this is a game with individual characters who interact with each other. That's what the lore is for in the first place. it's ok to extend lore the second another party they knew comes into place, but there still needs to be solid foundation.

In my opinion, what sells a champion is his motivation and it's very difficult to describe it in a biography without sounding hammy and fake. The trouble with biographies or traditional lore is that they are not meant to have dialogue and need to be factual.

Bull. How is it difficult to describe motivation without sounding "hammy and fake"? The basic ideas behind a bio and characters for that matter is the ability to relate to them. That's what makes a 3 dimensional character. That's what makes a great narrative. there is nothing hammy about great loss, or even emotional trauma. the reason these ideas are reused are because they are the 2 greatest things that we as individuals have to deal with.

Personality Backstory Motivation

Ekko has no motivation. why? because who that kid was to him is only implied to be somebody close... but we don't care about him because this kid is non dimensional. he is quite literally a prop you could just as quickly say Ekko lost his favorite Umbrella and the story wouldnt change. and before you call me on this. ask any fan of a series called One Piece

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_small/4/47703/2959770-straw+hat.jpg is more dimensional that Ekko's dead friend.

http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120228003516/powerlisting/images/3/30/Going_merry.jpg only speaks via a Klabuterman spirit and in the last 5 minutes we see it **otherwise is an inanimate object. **it's a fully fleshed 3 dimensional character.

For those of you who dont Know i can abridge this ship's story to:

The Going Merry is simply a ship, there was nothing special about it, it was built and left on Standby, never used until the Straw Hat Pirates stopped in it's village and recieved it as a gift. The Merry went on many adventures with it's crew, The care and love the crew supplied to it over their adventures (despite being a bit careless with it) led to the ship gaining a conscious. and the ship HERself felt like a member of the crew, willing to do anything to protect them, even when her keel (a ship's backbone) broke and she knew she wouldnt be able to go on for very much Longer. when the crew discovered this a fight broke out on whether to get a new ship, though this fight broke Merry's heart to see them all fighting over her despite her inevitable fate. One day during a storm that bought with it an enormous tsunami, Merry was left on the beach half capsized, but even still wanted to see her friends one more time.

She asked for the help of a passing shipwright, familiar with the tales of the Klabuterman, he repaired her and she went to go see her crew one last time before breaking. down. She arrived at the island her crew was on just in time to get them away from an island stronghold being destroyed by the world government that owned it. but could no longer go on. She broke in half, and recieved a Viking Funeral for the deeds she had done.

many people don't know what happened to the Klabuterman spirit inhabiting Merry. Many assume it's started to inhabit the new Ship, The Thousand Sunny

why is it that a Hat and a Ship both of which are inanimate objects mean more to us than Ekko's pal here? because we know absolutely jack about him. he's a blank slate that you have to imprint what you would feel onto him. This is lazy to the highest degree. to me it says the writer just said "eh, fill in your own slots, im too overpaid to think this up"

Final question: Why is Ekko on the Fields of Justice?

This is the biggest issue with the lore as of now: EVERY. SINGLE. CHARACTER. is 2 dimensional. they have no motivation to fight on the same team, they have no motivation to be on the FoJ, why? because these places as of now have ZERO reason to exist, and there is nothing tying them together. the IOW doesn't exist anymore. that was the string that held the story together. without the actual LoL why are these people fighting allies by lore with their eneimes on the same side?

this is why people are pissed, and i agree it's unacceptable, say what you want about champion abilities that ive created, the one thing that always gets complimented is the Lore I create for them.... for FREE. Most fan creations have better lores in place then what Riot themselves actually delivers and that is not good.

Ekko is just as big a victim and that is utterly deplorable. Even Smash Bros. has a story. these characters have a reason to be together, despite crossing genres and even consoles. it's a kid playing with toys. The only reason people are happy about the comic is not because it does it's job, but because our expectations have been lowered. to the point where "it's something, I guess better than nothing" the the thought behind the praise. but this comic is just as bad as Bard: Mountain pretty to look at, tells nothing. we don't even know if the whistling man did anything.

WTF is the League?

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WHY do want to squeeze riots balls so much. ekko is a hero, with a heroish story in this comic and the lore. BATMAN KILLED HIS PARENTS MURDER'ER. IS he A FILTHY PIECE OF TRASH LIKE U SEEM TO BE SOO DETERMINED TO CALL EKKO?

he didnt not have the time, he SPARED A LIFE.

the boy didnt steal, HE SURVIVED.

that man didnt defend himself, HE DAMNED HIMSELF.

EKKO ISNT A MURDEROUS STREET URCHIN, JUST BECAUSE YOUR MAD AT RIOT, hes a hero because of all the things he is, and u arent

I never said I was mad at Riot. Youre making assumptions which means youre dickriding Riot.

I would rather not see such a cool character design be degraded down to a petty gang member with gang mentality.

If he had time to do both he would have killed the man.

Trying to steal someones gun to commit more crime doesnt equal surviving. There is no context in why these kids have to steal because they dont really explain how things work in zaun? Why arent they at an orphanage? They dont exist or do they just not want to follow the rules?

He is a murderous gang member if his first thoughts about his friend being hurt by someone for trying to steal something is to straight up murder him. He is no hero. They could have made him one but they didnt.