Don't even think about censoring champions. Blizzard just cencored Jaina in Hearstone.

Damaged Rune··2 votes·3,639 views

Blizzard have just cencored Jaina Proudmoore in Hearstone. This is 100% because of China. To appease to the chinese market.

Don't even think about doing this for League of Legends. If MUST cencor no matter what. Do it only for the China server. That is all, thank you.

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Oleandervine4 votes

League's been out in China since at least 2013. If there was censoring, it would have occurred already.

DrCyanide1 votes

Don't look now, but Karthus

Madjack011 votes

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League's been out in China since at least 2013. If there was censoring, it would have occurred already.

Because censorship because of developments after release is totally unheard of...

SEKAI1 votes

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https://i.imgur.com/48gyDYO.png

Too late

People still bring this up?

It's called image compression and/or downscaling, not censorship.

Ebonmaw Dragon3 votes

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People still bring this up?

It's called image compression, not censorship.

Friendly reminder that this is what Karthus used to look like this in China:

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/2/24/Karthus_OriginalSkin_Ch.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20110215010404

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-F7hl7mXQngk/VvWrcMZn6AI/AAAAAAAAMpc/ECg_sGCi1CcS-lp12uS2nTt1BLSI2EM9A/s1600/Karthus_Splash_1.jpg

But sure, changing the whole face of the character is called "image compression"

SEKAI1 votes

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Friendly reminder that this is what Karthus used to look like in china:

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/2/24/Karthus_OriginalSkin_Ch.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20110215010404

A friend reminder that that is actually the SECOND version of the original Chinese Karthus' splash art.

The very first version had a very detailed skeleton face (for its time anyway). I vividly still remember that face and its maniacal grin.

But then it got removed at some point.

......

And another friend reminder that, censorship regarding skeletons happen as a result of SELF censoring in response to a vague Chinese law in regards to "don't promote occult ideas" in a preemptive attempt to avoid a potential legal battle by random legal trolls.

Censoring out the skeleton was Blizzard's interpretation of the law when they introduced WoW into China, possibly because they thought that skeletons COULD be associated with occult and thus removed it in advance. Just that many devs, include some Chinese ones, just follow the ship given it sailed, without understanding the context.

But still, I don't understand why Blizzard even felt the need to censor skeletons for the Chinese release of WoW in the first place given their another IP, Diablo, which is filled with demons and skeletons and whatnot, sold and was extremely popular in China for a very long time without any censorship and without any issues. And that Blizzard's another extremely popular IP and the predecessor of WoW, Warcraft was also sold well and extremely popular in China without a problem despite it, especially the Warcraft 3, contains a lot of skeletons and actual occultism themes.

There is a reason why movies like Coco where basically 95% of the characters are skeletons, was not banned nor remotely challenged.

The problem isn't skeletons or laws that supposedly hunt it, but a law that has too vague and ambiguous of its wording.

...... ......

That said, all of this doesn't matter because, the current Karthus splash art wasn't censored in between the 2 shots you provided for comparison in your initial post. It was simply downscaled, and then have the face's lighting changed darker to contrast the glowing eyes and mouth or otherwise he'd be stuck with a murky green face with barely to unrecognisable features.

The comparison image is also highly disingenuous, as it would appear they know precisely that it is a case of downscaling but go out of their way to misrepresent it. Hence why the downscaled version was zoomed in closer on purpose than the other one to make it seem worse than it really is.

It's manipulative, I'll give it that. And by that I mean it's almost textbook infomercial level of manipulation, which people are falling in droves because fucking reason. But it still doesn't change the fact the 2 versions are just a case of downscaling and not censorship.

Ebonmaw Dragon1 votes

{quoted}

A friend reminder that that is actually the SECOND version of the original Chinese Karthus' splash art.

The very first version had a very detailed skeleton face (for its time anyway). I vividly still remember that face and its maniacal grin.

But then it got removed at some point.

......

And another friend reminder that, censorship regarding skeletons happen as a result of SELF censoring in response to a vague Chinese law in regards to "don't promote occult ideas" in a preemptive attempt to avoid a potential legal battle by random legal trolls.

Censoring out the skeleton was Blizzard's interpretation of the law when they introduced WoW into China, possibly because they thought that skeletons COULD be associated with occult and thus removed it in advance. Just that many devs, include some Chinese ones, just follow the ship given it sailed, without understanding the context.

But still, I don't understand why Blizzard even felt the need to censor skeletons for the Chinese release of WoW in the first place given their another IP, Diablo, which is filled with demons and skeletons and whatnot, sold and was extremely popular in China for a very long time without any censorship and without any issues. And that Blizzard's another extremely popular IP and the predecessor of WoW, Warcraft was also sold well and extremely popular in China without a problem despite it, especially the Warcraft 3, contains a lot of skeletons and actual occultism themes.

There is a reason why movies like Coco where basically 95% of the characters are skeletons, was not banned nor remotely challenged.

The problem isn't skeletons or laws that supposedly hunt it, but a law that has too vague and ambiguous of its wording.

...... ......

That said, all of this doesn't matter because, the current Karthus splash art wasn't censored in between the 2 shots you provided for comparison in your initial post. It was simply downscaled, and then have the face's lighting changed darker to contrast the glowing eyes and mouth or otherwise he'd be stuck with a murky green face with barely to unrecognisable features.

The comparison image is also highly disingenuous, as it would appear they know precisely that it is a case of downscaling but go out of their way to misrepresent it. Hence why the downscaled version was zoomed in closer on purpose than the other one to make it seem worse than it really is.

It's manipulative, I'll give it that. And by that I mean it's almost textbook infomercial level of manipulation, which people are falling in droves because fucking reason. But it still doesn't change the fact the 2 versions are just a case of downscaling and not censorship.

Fair enough, maybe it wasn't the best example of censorship, but the point is that it is something that happened in the past and could happen in the future. And its not only because of China, we all remember the old "Graves's Cigar" as example of that.

DrCyanide1 votes

That's not image compression. Image compression would make the skull details look grainy or indistinct, not turn them black.

Weiss Guertena3 votes

1.) HS censorship is for the Chinese market, for which League has technology to make separate splash arts/models and 2.) Riot is already getting eaten alive by western SJWs whenever they dare to release a female champion/skin that is wearing anything less than a hijab (see: Kai'sa/Pool Party Zoe) while ripped shirtless guys are totally fine.

jäger der pisse2 votes

riot is owned by tencent so uh

disregardable2 votes

it wasn't for the Chinese market, because China has its own art team. see: Chinese art for skeleton knight. if something is changed in the western market, it was for the western market.

hearthstone is rated T for Teen and that art was indecent.

Dynikus2 votes

That's actually not entirely true. See Lord Godfrey. While there are some cards that get censored in the chinese version and not internationally, there are also some that do get censored for the chinese market that get put into the NA and EU servers as well. Whether or not them censoring cleavage is to appeal to the chinese market or not is another story though.

Also saying that art was indecent is a pretty big stretch, especially for a T rated game, and when widowmaker exists. This has nothing to do with a T rating.

Et Tu Geddn XNa 2 votes

U really think the art was Indecent? Yikes

Reaper Soraka2 votes

They already censor for the chinese market.

Look at the Chinese version of Karthus and the NA one. Names are chosen with most other languages in mind, as to not have it offensive.

SEKAI2 votes

Lmao, censoring cleavages is a western specialty and has always been, it is not something China remotely cares for, or at least certainly not any more than the western industry.

There is a reason why in the Chinese release of Mirror's Edge back in the late 2000s, China went into controversy of sort by ADDING extra boobs mass to the game's protagonist Faith on the cover art.

But let's just blame China for everything I don't like, amiright?

Febos1 votes

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But let's just blame China for everything I don't like, amiright?

The voice of reason. A lot of people paint China as a scary monster, but those same people forget to look at "themselves" (their country).

Dorans Pants1 votes
  1. being totally confused -->
  2. looking of changes to jaina -->
  3. sigh....well that was necessary

edit: /s

Madjack012 votes

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  1. being totally confused -->
  2. looking of changes to jaina -->
  3. sigh....well that was necessary

No it wasn't... not even close.

Dorans Pants1 votes

/s

sorry my mistake [sg-miss-fortune]

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