The champion VU -nobody- talks about.

ModCaptainMårvelous·Dec 1, 2014·89 votes·24,425 views

http://i.imgur.com/MKN0Tpp.png

Let's just take a moment to look at this sad, sad model.

The face and eyes in general look completely plastered on like a bad figurine from the dollar store.
Wonky proportions. One arm looks bigger than the other, giant elephant feet, torso could not support that upper body.
HIS TONGUE COLOR DOES NOT MATCH THE ART COLOR
Hair looks like a giant spiky pit.
His animations, likewise, are pretty bad.

All too often I think we give Mundo a pass because he's iconic and a lot of people really like his old model. That does not excuse the shape he is in, however!

I personally don't think Mundo needs love on the level of Sion or maybe even Karthus. I think if you gave him a little bit of an update, cleaned up his look and give him some new animations/particles to bring him up to date with the likes of Garen and the others, he could be amazing. But as of now, nobody even acknowledges the state he is in and I think that's a sour note.

122 Comments

2nd FiddleDec 1, 201497 votes

DrMundo "Mundo need a new look, it's true, but Mundo does know what Mundo wants to look like. "

DrMundo ... DrMundo ... DrMundo ... DrMundo "If Mundo is Madman of Zuan, Mundo should look like Zuan." DrMundo "Mundo does not know what Zuan looks like. Mundo will ask Pale Girl."

DrMundo "Pale Girl, What does Zuan look like?"

Jinx "Well, I'm wearing Zuan street clothes, so...pastels I guess? "

DrMundo "Mundo does not like pastels."

Jinx "I suppose you could put cute decorations on your weapons"

DrMundo "Good idea, Mundo put big happy face on cleaver."

DrMundo "Mundo still not look enough like Zuan. Mundo will ask Rat"

DrMundo "Rat, What does Zuan look like?"

Twitch "Well, that's where I got this coat; it grows a wonderfully aromatic mildew.

DrMundo "They do not make it in Mundo's size, Mundo checked."

Twitch "I also have a lot of pouches."

DrMundo "Mundo could use pouches. Mundo is always losing Mundo's keys."

DrMundo "Mundo still not look enough like Zuan. Mundo will ask Stinkyman."

DrMundo "Stinkyman, What does Zuan look like?"

Singed "It's where I built this big shield."

DrMundo "Mundo not use shield, Mundo not wimp."

Singed "and I've covered myself in bandages"

DrMundo "Mundo is not talking to Stinkyman anymore, Mundo will ask Doggy"

DrMundo "Doggy, What does Zuan look like?" Warwick "It's where I got this fine jewelry." DrMundo "Doggy, why are you wearing jewelry?" Warwick "I stole it off various corpses. It makes me feel...human."

DrMundo "Mundo try those things together and it look like silly mismatch."

DrMundo "Mundo does not think anyone knows what Zuan looks like."

BetaDude40Dec 1, 201432 votes

I cried.

10/10 10/10 100/100 Best comment Best comment

Tis a nice dayDec 1, 20145 votes

*Zaun, but otherwise amazing.

Zaun does not have any particular unified look.

2nd FiddleDec 1, 20146 votes

*Zaun, but otherwise amazing.

Wow, I feel like an idiot. My bad.

KingsgraveDec 1, 201415 votes

Zac You just need style kid, like me DrMundo Mundo likes blob man, but Mundo not blob man Zac That't too bad kid, I'm oozing with style...and normal ooze. DrMundo Mundo likes blob's man style, Mundo will try and get Mundo style of own for Mundo

7ha7guy777Dec 1, 20147 votes

Viktor item 3070 Urgot

2nd FiddleDec 2, 201426 votes

DrMundo "Mundo proud of Mundo's arms. Mundo not replace arms with silly techmaturgy"

ModWulf HelhammerDec 2, 20143 votes

Well you aren't playing Second Fiddle to anyone with this awesome comedy!

Great story!

KingsgraveDec 2, 201430 votes

http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140807163610/leagueoflegends/images/thumb/2/2d/Nunu_Render.png/290px-Nunu_Render.png http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140807144800/leagueoflegends/images/thumb/8/8f/Taric_Render.png/270px-Taric_Render.png http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100113181853/leagueoflegends/images/thumb/5/5a/Alistar_Render.png/215px-Alistar_Render.png http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091018220702/leagueoflegends/images/thumb/7/79/Kassadin_Render.png/215px-Kassadin_Render.png http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140807150704/leagueoflegends/images/thumb/3/3a/Warwick_Render.png/280px-Warwick_Render.png http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140805022401/leagueoflegends/images/thumb/4/41/Pantheon_Render.png/295px-Pantheon_Render.png

Ironclad DragonDec 2, 20149 votes

At least people talk about them. I haven't heard a lot for Mundo.

It Is I EmotoDec 2, 20148 votes

haven't heard much about kass and nunu. neither about panth after he got his new skin :V and I don't even see the cow man anywhere lmao

ModCaptainMårvelousDec 2, 20143 votes

All those models need updates, sure, but I'm talking more so about the fact that Mundo seems to get a pass because "Oh he's iconic!". Not to say these guys aren't but my gut feeling tells me that if need be, they'd pass up Mundo for Nunu/Ali because "Well Mundo is an iconic character" and so forth.

LordHippomanDec 1, 201421 votes

My biggest worry with Mundo is that they will pull a Sion. I liked the Sion rework, don't get me wrong. But we went from "WHO IS YOUR SUMMONER, AND WHAT DOES HE DO?" to "THESE BOOTS WILL HELP ME WADE THROUGH THE BLOOD OF MY ENEMIES."

Mundo is not grimdark. Do not make Mundo grimdark. I think it's okay with Sion, because he got such a nice new story to go with the VU, and he honestly wasn't exactly iconic. Mundo though, like you said, is iconic. Everyone knows Mundo. Everyone loves Mundo. It's a tricky balance to strike between updating him and maybe making him match his lore better, or accidentally making him too serious.

ModCaptainMårvelousDec 1, 201411 votes

Well the difference with Mundo is that he has a personality and character that can be lost. All that could be lost with Sion is a handful of Arnold references that were only really applicable to about 1/2-1/4 of the playerbase. (Seriously, most of the eastern players had no idea what the joke was).

Asides, I think it's doable. Just keep him as he is and touch up his model ala Maokai, Garen, Singed

SharjoDec 1, 20146 votes

Yeah, old Sion was kinda dumb in the fact he was something that, in essence should be pretty grim; a ruthless warmonger brought back as an undead, but was voiced in such a way that he was in no way serious at all. With Mundo his personality is one of his greatest features, where as with Sion it was throw away.

missinggraveDec 1, 201410 votes

"Mundo is not grimdark."

Yes, because a psychopathic, sadistic masochist who INSISTS on hurting anything that moves including himself with the use of cleavers and drugs and no longer has any intelligent function other than "Kill mode" due to his self prescribed drugs isn't grimdark. Sure, I understand that he's a fun character that's kinda like Jinx, but in game mundo and lore mundo are VERY different. In game, he's a playful little psycho who chucks cleavers. In lore (( which I'm not even sure if it holds any solid ground anymore )) he was a Zaunite driven mad kinda like Singed but with ten times less poison and one hundred times more painful experiments to create the perfect killer - with "mysteriously" missing parents, pets, and the occasional stander-by. He's even friends WITH HIMSELF for pete's sake, which can say something about his mental state outside of his experiments!

LordHippomanDec 2, 20147 votes

Well, fair enough. But Mundo's lore is pretty grimdark, the character isn't. When I say grimdark I mean people like Aatrox or Vayne . There's a big rift in game between the way Mundo acts and the way the lore describes him. I suppose you could chalk it up to the drugs driving him crazy and him really having no idea what he's doing. I'll rephrase: I don't want Mundo's character in game to change too much. It really is kind of a tricky conundrum to write around, where making him match his backstory will change his personality a ton, and yet changing the backstory is tricky, because I think at this point we're all tired of retcons. Curious, what would you do to make them closer? This is an open question, really sort of asking everybody. Interested in seeing how people feel about the big purple oaf.

((And I think Mundo's lore is still stable. It didn't involve the institute or League, so by the expressed guidelines of the retcon it's all still canon. They may retcon it later like with Sion, but for now, it's canon.))

missinggraveDec 2, 20142 votes

This is all fair, and I can now see what you meant by grimdark (( I clearly misunderstood )). However, as a writer I don't see how it would be so difficult to change Mundo to more accurately depict his lore or vice versa.

Personally, I'd like his lore to more accurately depict his personality. So in order to do this, we don't really need to retcon or edit all that much which might create a little bit of a stir at first but won't leave a lasting impression of dislike or controversy. What I see Mundo as is a super intelligent scientist who acts like a little kid. After all, with his lore and in game personality combined, it sure seems like that's exactly what he is - at the very least, after he O.D'd on the drugs required to suppress his pain and amplify it on others (( %HP cleavers OP )). So how do we do this? Easy, we just add that little bit of information to his lore or edit it to mention how his drugs have caused him to act the way he does to clarify why he's so childlike in game but so morbid in the rest of his lore. That way, Mundo has a pseudo "Halo effect" where we pay attention to the fact that he's naive or a man who is no longer in control that we WANT to ignore all that awful stuff he does. It's a happy medium where we get to have both the dark, scary mundo and the funny, playful mundo that goes where he pleases!

Side note: Correct me if I'm wrong, but after looking at his lore and quotes a second glance, is the, "Mundo will go where he pleases" quote a reference to the fact that he works as a Noxian scientist but is still a Zaunite resident - therefore giving him dual faction status like Poppy?

ForgeReaperDec 2, 20144 votes

Actually I would very much like a complete VU on DrMundo . When I first read his lore, I really liked the idea of a mad doctor/serial killer as a champion. But when I first played him in a match, I mistook him for a dumb purple jock with a cleaver (no offence to those who like his comedic look). I think the best way to do this (in my opinion) is to make his model look like a (slightly less buff) smiling doctor wearing a big lad coat covered in blood holding a big (and I mean big as it looks in his splash art) cleaver. But with a SPLIT PERSONALITY DISORDER. One side of him being a big silly and comedic fellow, while his other side being a mad doctor/killer (something like a Dr.Jekyll and Mr.Hyde sort a thing). This would explain why Mundo is friends with himself and how he gets away with all these crimes (like even though cops have evident of him being the killer, everyone looks and see a harmless silly fellow playing with himself). EDIT: wow ok I guess people don't like my opinion. If your going to dislike my comment, at least tell me why :(

missinggraveDec 2, 20143 votes

"Harmless silly fellow playing with himself" - ForgeReaper 2014

I did like the idea of a split personality, but I don't like it being a key part of his lore. First, simply due to keeping it simple for the reader to progress through it all without getting confused, and second, due to the fact that I don't want him to go from cheery fellow to dark and scary. Even Gnar's rage gene keeps a somewhat cute appearance for what he COULD turn into (( think Gremlins who turn from cute and cuddly to down right terrifying in comparison to what they started as )). The idea in theory and speculation is okay because it's left up to interpretation about whether or not he really does have a split personality which adds a lot of depth to him as a character. If it were to somehow be execute though, I'd really rather keep it either a happy masochist with a happy sadist or a dark masochist with a dark sadist - i.e. Mundo being happy and goofy making jokes about hurting himself and others versus Mundo bringing up how his blood will be the last thing someone tastes.

Also another side note: Circumstantial bias and evidence such as a split personality can only reduce a sentence, not remove one. If they were able to prove it, he'd still be found guilty of something. :)

Grinner SinnerDec 5, 20142 votes

so mutch this, i love the idea of SPLIT PERSONALITY DISORDER :)

RiotIronStylusDec 4, 201413 votes

But as of now, nobody even acknowledges the state he is in and I think that's a sour note.

rekt.

Anyway.. we were just talking about this yesterday. One of our 3D artists is a big fan of making crazy brute characters and was wondering where he was at on the list. Right now we don't have him hard slotted, but I do have a concept for him hanging around.

One of the current challenges with him is that we would have to do an entire teardown of his old character art if we wanted to do what we'd LIKE to do. Which is probably along the lines of less of a grape flavored Hulk, with the ripped shirt, pants and all. I think the big semi-grotesque upper body would stay similar with his legs being more or less.. not "normal".. but less deformed. Putting him solidly in the "freak" category and not the "hulk" category which is where we've put Sion. He very much needs a new rig to execute at the level we'd want to. There's even a thought of him model-swapping to a larger, more brutal version of himself when he's ulting. This is all talk though, don't take it as a feature promise.

Something I'd like to play around with is figuring out something different to do with his clothing rather than literally a ripped white shirt and brown pants. I was talking with the guys and we were thinking maybe he has what's left of whatever he used to harness himself up to an experimental injection device, or something that feels a little more in line with Zaun.. which isn't exactly well defined right now either.. There's some references like final-boss Fontaine from Bioshock or when Shwarzenegger is restrained in Total Recall when they're trying to wipe his brain, and he pulls off an arm restraint and stabs a guy through the head. I dunno, something that's pieces of wreckage, hard material or "clothing" that tells some sort of story.

Let me know if that's an interesting idea and we'll play around.

5G8Nri0B54Dec 4, 20142 votes

Sounds promising.

But uh...something a little more dignified than final boss Fontaine please. That guy's kind of the poster boy for "anti-climactic joke boss"

How does "William Birkin" sound? Not his human form of course. But one of his many many mutations.

Also, in how does having a cleaver suck on his meat sound? That way it'd look "slightly" better than him throwing a cleaver and having it appear out of nowhere again. We now know that he stuck another on on himself for when he decides to throw the current one.

ShínyDec 4, 20142 votes

Alright so this is very much so a simplification but, your basic idea is less hulk more Bane? But shooting for a more deformed type of bane?

http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/201/d/c/bane_by_olivernome-d4145lz.jpg

I Like the general concept :) I do believe you have some work to do with narrative though, striking a balance between the zaunite freakish experiment and goofy mundo will be an interesting task.

RiotIronStylusDec 4, 20144 votes

Bane is too far I feel, but there's some spirit there. Bane really screams "enhanced" in many renditions, while Mundo I think is more "the experiment gone wrong". But I do think there's some cues to take from here.

Sneak DogDec 4, 20144 votes

Why gone wrong? He's a zaunite doctor, I think according to lore his intellect is still fine too, but now he is a super-soldier. Everything went perfect.

Oh, you mean the tongue, memory issues and skin color? Acceptable side-effects.

DG AshabelDec 4, 20144 votes

I'm sorry, that makes no sense in terms of Mundo's character identity. The whole point to Mundo's character is that he's the poster child of the Zaun ideal, a mad doctor who has given himself to science and transformed through it. His hulkish appearance and slurred speech aren't a bad thing in his countrymen's eyes, they're acceptable side effects of his scientific achievements.

If anything, I would recommend making him more presentable in order to reflect how he's the pride of Zaun's scientific community and they'd be willing to tailor clothing for his twisted new form. Give him a big flowing lab coat that reflects his status as a doctor, while also making him feel disturbing through the contrast between his clothing and his slurred speech/purple skin. Then have him hulk out and tear it all up while Ulting, which would throw the actual horror into our faces.

Rather than use the "twisted experiment" angle for his primary appearance, maybe use it for Toxic Mundo skin? That skin never had any focus beyond "Mundo but green," so it would be easy to turn into "Mundo right after his transformation, before the mutation properly settled in".

Nagoh ShanDec 4, 20143 votes

Add, Improve, don't remove.

That's your mantra. If you have awesome ideas for skins, but they are tons different, add something new.

Then you can never be wrong.

RiotIronStylusDec 4, 201412 votes

Is that our mantra? Sion would like a word.

If we want to make something canon and it's a better execution, we sometimes have to do some drastic surgery to the base. We as artists have to think of ourselves as being just as open to change as gameplay design. Sometimes to make something healthy we have to dismantle. The idea is to keep the spirit and enhance the experience. If that experience is simply sub-par, we need to reevaluate that experience from the ground up.

CupcakeTrapDec 4, 20145 votes

maybe he has what's left of whatever he used to harness himself up to an experimental injection device,

I like that. I'm partial to League's reference-osity, and I think it's a good idea to tap into the cultural resonance of the Hulk/Mr. Hyde imagery, but I'm sure you guys can think of clever additions to that basic concept.

or something that feels a little more in line with Zaun.. which isn't exactly well defined right now either

Zaun is awesome. All the pieces are already there: you've just got to tap into its referen-tastic source and close your eyes for a moment. It all comes together beautifully with the addition of a dash of imagination and some 80s/90s sci-fi.

I really came into this thread hoping not to have to end up linking this again, but there you go. I'm about as certain that Narrative will completely erase and rewrite Zaun as I am certain that this will be an unnecessary and destructive act.

http://leaguefactions.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/zaun_frame.png Research over regulations. Results over rules. Revolution over revisions. (Motto of the Zaun Techmaturgic Institute.)

I like Zaun's X-Men/Shadowrun theme, and its identity as Piltover's crazy twin sister, with modern/cyberpunk themes in place of the quaint Victorian/steampunk ambiance Piltover's got going. Mutants, techmaturgy, drugs, parties, megacorporate governance, fun, danger, gas masks, robots, explosions, neon lights, trenchcoats, toxic waste…

http://leaguefactions.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/pkii-black-e1400304484598.png A syringe of Pharmakon II, the serum that created Zaun's psi-mages. PKII is a distilled and "weaponized" form of "NoxiToxis", so named for their use of substances gathered from Void-contaminated Noxian land.

I would respectfully disagree and say Zaun's got a lot of good definition. You should open up a case of ThaumaKola with Narrative sometime and try to convince them not to do yet another blank-slate destructive rewrite that'll turn Zaun into a cave-city populated by mole-people.

http://leaguefactions.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/hexkorps-icon-gray-bg-small.png "THEY ARE NOW OBSOLETE!" (Viktor at the creation of the HexKorps, when warned that its unveiling would provoke Demacia.)

I'm quite fond of the Zaun that's emerged in the Factions community so far: a schizophrenic corporate state less interested in an epic clash of good and evil than they are in having a really good (and generally unhealthy) time. Piltover's all, "Indeed! The Velocitronic Rail will allow overnight travel to Demacia at a fraction of the cost of conventional freight. But further testing is required." while Zaun is all, "JUST SWITCH IT ON AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS." And also lots of KamelKase KompoundWords with Ks in place of hard Cs, for some reason.

https://leaguefactions.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/against-the-apocalypse-1.jpg Viktor and a Zaunite Summoner, 333LOM, one of his machine acolytes. ( From the Battle of Shurima. )

I'm deciding whether I really want to go spend more hours of my life, hours that I'll never get back, making a bunch of preemptive "Narrative pls" threads for each faction. Honestly, though, that sort of thing just makes me feel like a chump. I'm pretty certain that if you stroll over to Narrative's side of the building you'll see someone who's already finished rewriting Zaun as some crazy land of talking dragons who use the power of make-believe to summon The Crystal Guardians of Chaos to this realm. So I mean, what's the point?

ModCaptainMårvelousDec 4, 20142 votes

Always a pleasure to see ya' Stylus.

In my opinion, I think taking away some of his clothing would greatly remove the "Mad scientist" aspect of him, which is kind of what Mundo was. The cautionary tale of "Madman turns the needle on himself". I think the best way to approach it is a combination of what you suggested and the original model: Make it seem like the Scientist Mundo strapped himself down, injected this experimental serum into his body and then literally tore from both the apparatus keeping himself in the chair as well as his clothing. Maybe exchange the syringe for something of that lines.

I agree with the model swapping, but if I could make a suggestion? Perhaps have Mundo have a "battle damage" meter about him that shows physical damage. Depending on how far you want to go you could have missing limbs, arms, whatever. Something along the lines of Udyr's stance swapping but tied to HP ala Zac's size. Then his ult would rapidly begin regrowing limbs, replacing body parts, etc. Maybe too far but I think it'd be cool.

All in all, I think the most important thing is to preserve the terrifying aspect of the madman under the monster vs. the doofy goofball who only knows his own name. Losing that would be the worst thing that could happen.

RockbadgerDec 8, 20142 votes

((Warning; decently long read ahead)) Ladies and Gentlenerds, boys and... birds? Hiya Stylus! I was looking at Mundo's lore, and two things occured to me.

He ties in ridiculously well with the theme of Zaun. As someone pointed out here, his whole objective is to more or less feel that 'rush' of the kill, the predatory instinct of causing pain to another and joy from it... much like how Zaunites seem to all live for that next 'rush'! (Looking at you, Jinx) Now the real thing is, looking at Viktor you have an interesting style which seems to relate to the scientists, an odd combination of style and function. Pinstripe pants that are easy to move around in? Check. Cool gelled back hair? Check. Cool boots and odd cloak that looks spiffy? Super check. On the other hand, you look at Jinx who's wearing the Zaun street clothes, which as I said before with Viktor; cool and adds a good bit of flare, yet still reasonable. To me it seems Zaun IS tied together by how un-together it is. Everything is more-or-less just so oddly chaotic and clashing that it works together. Jinx's right-part of the bra is striped, light pink darker pink, whereas the left side is black and padded. It's certainly odd, yet causing that asymmetrical design is pretty cool in terms of games.
Now moving forwards, Mundo does seem odd to me thematically. I get he's a 'butcher' but he's also the 'MADMAN OF ZAUN'. What ties him in further with Zaun? Why is it his whole point in lore is to make himself more 'primitive', fight harder, and focus less on his survival instinct, yet his kit makes him do little damage, take near none, and become one of the most slippery champs in the game?
Not only that, but Mundo is also, according to his lore, tied in with Noxus. Now we're getting somewhere cooler! How's he tied in with Noxus, to what extent, is there more to it than just them liking his research?! Furthermore, adding on to that extent, does he have things from Noxus? Does he wear heavy battle armor like Darius? Does he go for flare like Draven? Or does he go mostly practical, like Katarina? Or does he have almost zero relation with Noxus beyond his research?

I personally think that a freak of nature wearing an odd combination of asymmetrical yet stylish clothes combined with war-like armor could lead to a super cool design for Mundo. I couldn't give you a good example off the top of my head, but these are all just directions from Mundo's and others lore and design that piques my curiosity. Anyways, if you could answer some of these questions of what you plan on doing with him, or if you plan on aligning him more with one state over the other, that would be so kewl. Well, that's it for my spiel. Thanks for reading.

NavaruneDec 1, 20147 votes

I think his character and personality, which are so iconic to League, are the very reason why Riot doesn't want to touch him right now. With this community, any change can and will be taken negatively in some circles because the diehard Mundos don't want their Mundo touched... mundo.

Also, if the visual changes end up too drastic, which is itself extremely subjective, many other fans will cry havoc. Riot understands that there is only so far they can go, but that line is too blurry right now with so many other projects on the table.

I agree that he needs some attention, but I just don't see Riot picking up the stylus for the good Doctor anytime soon.

CenturosDec 1, 20147 votes

He doesn't even have a dance! (he just kind of vaguely wiggles a bit)

Rew711Dec 1, 20146 votes

And then there's Nunu 's model...

MUNDOCORPDec 1, 20145 votes

DrMundo Mundo agree his old skins texchurs shud b updated. Rite now they r por cwalitee.

Pleez dont make fun of how Mundo spels words foneticly. Olso Mundo usd semicolen rite ther, that proovs he has good grammer!

N E way, Riot pleez dont leev Mundos texchurs like this pleez.

JunkοDec 2, 20144 votes

His animations, likewise, are pretty bad.

He has animations?

HigeRDec 1, 20143 votes

well, knowing Riot they probably will try to find a concrete direction for Dr. Mundo, because well, Juggernaut is kind of already taken by Sion. Health tank is probably his most prominent feature but unlike Zac ZAC he's geared more towards AD... still the question lingers: what archetype could he fill? he looks like Jekyll and mr Hyde, without Jekyll that is ._. or maybe just the Hulk in the "I SMASH" sense, is Mundo a brute of sorts perhaps? how can Riot enhance the feeling of playing a brute without stepping in Gnar Gnar's territory?

I think Mundo needs a gameplay update as well, with the removal of executioner's calling you're left with ignite and some skills to counter his ult... blind pick against a Mundo can be a pain in the ass, though the game is not balanced around blind pick. Still he needs some number tweaks and new visuals that tell you what's going on (I remember it took me a loooong time when I started playing to figure out what dem balls did xD)

Xela SyabDec 2, 20143 votes

his rageborn skin has the VU but no ones plays with it :/

XenohazDec 2, 20143 votes

Let's get this some more attention.

A Bad AhriDec 2, 20143 votes

Mordekaiser

Bodkins OddsDec 4, 20143 votes

Yeah, the Kaiser of Morde definitely needs a VU first. And Taric.

Tristana HentaiDec 2, 20142 votes

When they do get to mundo, im hoping they give corporate some custom effects besides cleaver, the rest seem a little...dull

Laughing FishDec 2, 20142 votes

I just want a legendary Mundo skin from BEFORE he experimented on himself, when he was still intelligent.

GoiloDec 3, 20142 votes

If I could say, if he were reworked they should of done a shape shifting passive like Gnar. He would run around as a mad scientist with different abilities

Q- Syringe Toss (Just like cleaver, it slows less but does DoT) W- Vial Smash (Toss a vial at the ground exploding and knocking up self/target) (imagine ziggs) E- Injection/Self Injection (Goes up close to enemy and stabs them with a syringe morphing them) or (Self injection 3 times to become the big Guy) R- Passive (Increased movement speed and defense while in scientist form)

For big Mundo basically keep everything the same but maybe change a few minor things

Bodkins OddsDec 4, 20142 votes

I don't believe they were talking about a mechanical rework, just a model & sfx update. His kit is perfectly fine as is.

GreenLoreDec 5, 20141 votes

while his kit is not bad,it is rather blunt. He has his cleaver,a toggle ability and 2 power-up moves.So half of his abilities consist of stat boosts and one of the other 2 abilities is more like a self-applied status effect. I'm not even sure how his W is actually supposed to work storywise,as he suddenly starts damaging stuff around him just because he is in pain...

I think he doesn't need a Sion-level-kit-rework,but maybe something on the same level as trundle(just changing some effects and numbers around) or katarina(changing some effects and numbers around as well as giving him a single new ability).

Ironstylus mentioned a potential bulk change for his ultimate(meaning he'd grow bigger when doing it) and I think that would be a cool idea,it would leave the ult largely as it is,but add a bit more awesomeness to his kit.

Gray FanchonDec 5, 20142 votes

I think it'd be pretty cool if he set himself on fire. Or just caught fire inexplicably due to some mutation or another. His pain reception is dulled, right? A crazy freakish scientist coming at you on fire, refusing to die, sounds pretty cool to me. :D

GunpointDec 1, 20141 votes

Cho'Gath first.

TsundayDec 1, 201410 votes

Except Cho'Gath is a much bigger project. They want to actually give him an evolving 6 models for his ult kind of like Pulsefire Ez has different models, rather than just bigger and bigger Cho'Gath. OP is just talking about giving him a small scale visual update like Garen had.