Can we address this?

Melledoneus··8 votes·1,310 views

THIS is the original splash art for Karthus: http://40.media.tumblr.com/2aa133454b582e85d920dab55d94f766/tumblr_n698re7Hga1qgrdiqo1_1280.jpg

And THIS: http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/c/c9/Karthus_OriginalSkin.jpg/revision/latest/zoom-crop/width/613/height/460?cb=20160326005627 Is the new one.

What the hell? Why does Karthus look like a sludge monster? I demand answers.

EDIT: May not seem that different, but god damn it's noticable in-game and in champion select.

28 Comments

Sharjo9 votes

They put a shadow on his face. That apparently makes the art so unbelievably bad it's worthy of being called a monstrosity?

Honestly sod off with that. That's hyperbole to the highest degree.

Ralanr2 votes

I wouldn't say it's unbelievably bad, it just feels unnecessary.

Sharjo3 votes

Yeah but there's a difference between calling something abominable and asking Riot why they changed things. I do get why it feels unnecessary; they updated Karthus in such a way to specifically address this problem to an extent, but still can we not be so hyperbolic in our outrage? Look at pokemon; using outrage just leads to confusion and pain. Dragon pain. No need for that; we're not all fairies who're immune to that kind of stuff.

Melledoneus2 votes

Please quote where I used the word "abominable." You're basically setting the tone yourself and fabricating words that were never in my post to begin with to argue in your favor.

Who's the one being hyperbolic now, my friend?

Sharjo1 votes

You actually edited the post to turn this around on me!

Cute, but not very effective.

Melledoneus1 votes

I assure you the only such word I used was "monstrosity," and I soon edited that out because it was a tad hyperbolic.

Never did I use such strong words as "abomination." Your accusations are insulting the intelligence of people who are actually here to discuss their thoughts on the changes of Karthus' face.

Melledoneus1 votes

It's emphasized extremely given that in champion select and in-game there is a magnified, cropped version of his face always there to remind you...

DeloricVI3 votes

Why are people complaining so much about absolutely tiny differences? They eseentially just made his hat (or whatever that thing is) cast a shadow on his face. It's pretty much like they decided that, "hey, his hat could just be slightly bigger and his face could be a bit more sunken back into this outfit."

I personally don't see a problem with this. I don't really see issues with most of the splash arts people are complaining about. People pointing out the most subtle differences, and saying that it looks like trash now... for no real reason.

I get being bent out of shape over the Gentleman Cho'Gath skin changes (because they're giving him the full Graves treatment and then some) but that's because it's being censored because of pretty darn silly reasons. But a slight, barely-noticable adjustment to Karthus's wardrobe is not grounds for a discussion, in my opinion. I mean, if this came out with no warning and just replaced the current one, I wouldn't notice a damn thing.

Vistha Kai3 votes

What shadow?

He literally has glowing eyes, mouth and he's in the middle of casting a spell, which is enough to light his whole robe except the face?

http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/050/449/011.jpg

DeloricVI3 votes

Veigar has glowing eyes, but that doesn't light up his whole face.

The area around Karthus's mouth is lit up, if you'd look at the damn thing. In the second one, it gives the illusion that his face is sort of sunken back. If it were, the light wouldn't be nearly so pronounced where it does show, and the lighting seems just fine to me. I mean, I've been working with value for quite a while, so I get the concept of light and shadow. The bottom of the face seems to be shaded by the collar of his robes and the top seems to be shaded by the brim of his hat. How does this not make sense to you? The robe is closer or more exposed to the light source of his spell than his face would be, and I find this to be an acceptable change.

Why are you so angry about this? Like I said, the change is so subtle that no one would notice if they didn't announce it.

Vistha Kai1 votes

Because his original splash looks natural.

In the updated one it looks as if he had a literal black light on his face.

DeloricVI3 votes

Again, your argument makes no sense. I actually like the new splash. Yes, go ahead and downvote me for having an opinion. Such heresy.

Even if I didn't like it, I certainly wouldn't be so bent out of shape. It's not like they put a veil over his face or completely blacked it out and removed his face or something. I mean, a lot of people just need to chill.

Melledoneus2 votes

They literally DID remove his face. I could have done that edit in Paint with the fill tool, my friend.

DeloricVI1 votes

Now I'm confused. You do know what it means to completely remove something, right?

Veigar's face is "blacked out" or "removed from the picture." You can still see his face! What the hell are you on that you don't see it? I'm seriously concerned at this point! That's two people that insist that his face isn't even there any more, and at this point I can only think that you mean it literally and you're serious!

Melledoneus1 votes

While it may not seem like it, the quality of the cropped out picture in the game is actually much lower quality. It's literally all black with some light touches here and there. It's messy, pixellated, and overall just bad. There was no reason to change it.

Ruin Lance2 votes

LMAO SLUDGE MONSTER IM DYING

Ralanr2 votes

With context, he kinda looks like he's doing black face.

Which is obviously unintentional and I just noticed that.

Shroom Junkie2 votes

What are you racist? Can't stand for another black guy in League?! I SEE HOW IT IS!

Gapybo2 votes

Nice hyperbole. I hope riot doesn't take people like you seriously when there are actual issues to be dealt with.

Hentai Lewds2 votes

Pointless post .. nice :|

DREADN0UGHT2 votes

I think it looked much better without the shadow. There was no need to hinder the original concept. Why fix what isn't broken?

Melledoneus1 votes

Which is exactly my point. If they wanted to cover up his face, don't just add some weird black covering on it that doesn't even look natural. They could've made it at least look believable.

Akenero1 votes

The reason why is due to cultural differences. China has a MAJOR thing against showing skulls, and whilt this doesn't have one, it makes all of his skins feel more unified

Melledoneus1 votes

Ok, if they wanted to cover up his face, they could have put in just a little more effort than that. It looks simply awful and weird, and not because it's different.

Sahn Uzal1 votes

WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY summoner 31

imbrus1 votes

Riot are planning to have universal splash arts and apparently skeletons and dead stuff are bad in china so they darkened it.

Btw i hate this new update as all the new skin splashes just feel incredibly out of place or make the champs (e.g. karhtas)

Nautricity1 votes

Chinese censorship, all Chinese Karthus splashes are censored in china. Replaced with a hazey phantom instead of a skeleton. I went over them here http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/story-art/b8dx0jos-my-personal-dos-and-donts-of-all-the-global-splash-updates-w-comments-all-67-splashes

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