[LORE DISCUSSION] Omni-Post

ModCaptainMårvelous··18 votes·3,788 views

http://i.imgur.com/m2fWIuK.jpg If only this board had come out like...5 weeks ago. Anyways, this is going to be the main post for the [Lore Discussion] series I run on the boards. As well as a general FAQ on what lore discussion is.


##LORE DISCUSSION TABLE OF CONTENTS Who built the Mercury Hammer?- Was the mercury hammer the product of Jayce's own inventive mind...or was the mercury hammer actually a scrapped prototype of Viktor's glorious evolution?

Are the Watchers Void-Beings?- Are the Watchers beings that originate from the Freljord...or are they actually creatures from the void itself?

What happened in Shurima?- A special discussion that took place about a week before we had the full story on Shurima.

Shurima: Part 2- I was kinda sick special. My own version/take on the Shurima event I had made a year prior.

Who killed the man Yasuo was meant to guard?- Incorrect title wording, my fault. Still, we discuss the theory on who is the actual culprit of the murder: Yasuo, Riven, or some other person who we have yet to meet.

Who is C?- The Engima. The Master Thief. The man-or-woman who has plagued Caitlyn for years, who could this master criminal be?

The Black Rose- Existing behind the veil of Noxus, the Black Rose. What could this organization want?

Where is General DuCouteau?- When the father of two of Noxus's greatest champions (and mentor of one) goes missing, it's not something to take lightly...

The Lunari- Mount Targon has not only touched the sun but the moon as well. Which begs the question: What happened to the Lunari?

The Darkin- A nearly extinct race, the Darkin are...proud? Noble? Bloodthirsty? What are they and what happened to this race?

Zaun- Zaun, a backwater breeding ground for sickness, illness, and mad science the likes of which Runeterra has NEVER seen!

The Shadow Isles- No description. 2 spooky 5 me

Urtistan/Zilean- A land lost to time, Zilean is the only survivor and has gained immense powers...or has he?

Runeterra Holidays- It's that time of year...right? I'm actually not sure, I keep messing up the Runeterra calendar.

Races of Runeterra- Humans and Yordles and...ursine? Void-beasts? Ok we're going to need a compendium here.


What is Lore Discussion?

Lore discussion is a weekly thread made to tackle and discuss some of the biggest mysteries, theories and ideas revolving around League of Legends. The topic each week is voted on and from there I expand upon it myself to provoke discussion and theory sharing all around.

What are the topics?

Every week, the topics are voted on by readers. When one topic wins and is the center of discussion, that topic is pulled from the roster and a new topic replaces it. Along with this, occasionally the option to "Shuffle" will appear, where I'll pick a random topic to discuss before swapping out every discussion with a new one.

Can I suggest a topic?

Go for it! Just keep in mind a topic should...

  • Allow for creative investigation. A mystery isn't fun if it has only one answer.
  • Is something that a majority of people want to know. A lot of people may want to know if Jarvan was actually Leblanc, but not so many would be interested in the color of Vi's underwear.
  • Is actually something of a mystery. An obvious answer isn't so much of a discussion as stating facts.

Can Rioters participate?

Indeed they can! Although something tells me that they might not want to talk about lore too much due to A.) Giving away mysteries or B.) being chastised for the direction lore is going, even if they have no part in it.

Why are some of these discussions suggesting things you made?

Well, simply put, I'm just theorycrafting with lore. Any champion concepts/characters/etc. that are discussed are simply my own ideas and theories of what may come to pass or what may be true. In that regard yes, all of this is my personal conjecture. Please keep in mind, however, that NONE of what I suggest is canon nor officially endorsed/used by Riot. This is ALL my personal work.

Can I ask you about...

Ask away! Just try to keep it related to lore, I'm not really interested in sharing about my boring personal life.

24 Comments

Watch94 votes

YASUO, IT WAS ALL JANNA

prime1042 votes

I guess the Ionian elder was left breathless...(for only 2.95 a minute :P)

ElPotatoDiablo2 votes

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ModCaptainMårvelous7 votes

Well I'm not part of the lore department and it kinda has zip to do with them outside of discussing what people wanna discuss sooooooooooo

ElPotatoDiablo1 votes

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ModCaptainMårvelous1 votes

Dude, chill, you're getting super angry over nothing. I'm just saying that it's kinda rude to accuse a fan thing that has zero to do with Riot's lore department outside of discussing their stories as a terrible replacement when it was never meant to replace anything.

Just relax, no need to sling insults.

Kinjishi2 votes

Perhaps Riot would be kind enough to move all the other [Lore Discussions] - yours and others into this new board. :/ That'd be cool.

Ark Angel HFB2 votes

If summoners and the IoW are not involved... I won't be investing in it.

You guys can, but if player immersion in the world wasn't enough to keep something slightly tricky to write around in the lore... then just think how fast they will retcon things if they ever get stuck.

MrBuffington1 votes

Thoughts on which Jarvan Sion killed?

Sneak Dog1 votes

Are you implying the current Jarvan may have died? (and maybe even revived after?)

MrBuffington1 votes

well, there are 4 Jarvans, but it doesn't specify which one of them was killed...

Sneak Dog1 votes

Well, how many could there even have been alive at the time Sion was alive? When was Sion alive? I'm starting to see your point.

ModCaptainMårvelous5 votes

Jarvan V, Jarvan IV's infant son.

In all seriousness, it's pretty clearly III. IV is prince of Demacia and III would probably not be too spry in his old age.

Gentleman Gaston2 votes

Jarvan V, Jarvan IV's infant son.

In all seriousness, it's pretty clearly III. IV is prince of Demacia and III would probably not be too spry in his old age.

Possible, but I think it's equally likely to be II.

ModCaptainMårvelous1 votes

Then this story takes place AGES ago, considering if it was J2 than he would be old as all hell.

MrBuffington1 votes

I think this is the idea too, since in the lore the Black Rose is still up and running; I think they're supposed to have disappeared a long time ago, with the ageless LeBlanc the only remaining member

IMTOOJUICY7 votes

I bet fake money it is j2. Sion was first alive looong ago.

MrBuffington1 votes

Maybe it's even the first jarvan, the teaser doesn't specify a number, which it probably would have (most kings have that as part of their title)

Gentleman Gaston3 votes

Then this story takes place AGES ago, considering if it was J2 than he would be old as all hell.

The placement of this teaser on the timeline is very much up in the air, considering both Darkwill and LeBlanc are considered to be much older than they appear and they're the only real grounding we have as far as timelines go.

Celio Hogane HD1 votes

Thoughts on which Jarvan Sion killed?

Jarvan I (i don't think it was Jarvan II... they would said it)

MrBuffington1 votes

I'm starting to think this too; dang, Sion is old lol

Valaran Nara1 votes

It is Jarvan II

It said so in the story. I don't know why people are saying "OMG, J4" when it specified number 2. LeBlanc is a title, and in Leblanc's lore (which may get a retcon) our "current" one had adopted the title after the old one passed. Therefore...the LeBlanc mentioned in Reborn is not the champion we play.

dialMARK4acti0n2 votes

cough cough Actually, it was Jarvan, the 1st. puts on glasses like a nerd

Tarezi1 votes

Are you still making these? I read through a few of them and really enjoyed them.

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