Riot, a question about reworks...

GenoXx··2 votes·612 views

Why do you feel it's ok to slip in reworks before others? Further pushing back long awaited ones.....

The two different teams excuse doesn't solve this seeing how we were told eve's would be after Urgots this year and yet you slip in Xin Zhao's who was never mentioned before.

Edit: His was mentioned, but we weren't told it was before Eve's...

18 Comments

Sharjo5 votes

I'd assume nothing's pushed back since one doesn't affect the other. Xin Zhao's being done by live gameplay, not the VGU teams. They already said his was a smaller job so one can extrapolate it'd be out potentially before Evelynn just from that. No one ever stated concretely when he'd be out of course, but I'm inclined to say myself that from your wording, you're annoyed by a percieved change of plans, when really nothing changed. Evelynn's rework would have taken this amount of time regardless; if she'd been delayed they'd have said. Xin's rework likely changed nothing about how Evelynn was secheduled.

GenoXx1 votes

If that was the case, for clarity sake, they should lay down some dates or estimated one. Because i wasn't the only one who brought this up.

Sharjo4 votes

Riot HATES giving dates. Magma Chamber was a thing at one point that made them hate giving dates.

Beyond Legends4 votes

Sigh... like are we stil confused between a vgu is and a vu?

HonestJohnTheCon3 votes

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Sigh... like are we stil confused between a vgu is and a vu?

*gu VU's rarely happen anymore.

Dreamspitter1 votes

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*gu VU's rarely happen anymore.

DrMundo Jax Zilean still need it though Shaco Olaf could too.

GenoXx1 votes

well no, because both are getting reworked skills. so no one is confused here

Beyond Legends5 votes

It's a gameplay update with a texture update and extra animation for his new skills. It's a gu.

A VGU require riot completely rebuild the champions model with new VO and lore. Eve Is still after urgort. Xin update isn't a vgu.

Moonboy653 votes

Xin Zhao's came before Evelynn for a simple reason, it's a smaller update

Eve hasn't been pushed back, we expect seeing her before preseason hits (7.22)

Cocho2 votes

Sometimes they dont have solid ideas for a rework, or ideas that sounded good, didnt make it through all the different things they go through.

Like trying make your old girlfriend work out when that girl at your gym is ready for you

Kynin2 votes

They announced a while back Xin would come first since he didn't need much work and they would look into a larger scale rework for him in the future. Evelyn will come before the end of the year. I'm so excited to see what they do with her, she definitely has one of the best fantasies in the game.

GenoXx1 votes

If that's the case, I'm expecting some time in novermber or december. but why would they push a rework back so late when it was announced the beginning of the yr and can be speculated done mid summer.

Kynin1 votes

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If that's the case, I'm expecting some time in novermber or december. but why would they push a rework back so late when it was announced the beginning of the yr and can be speculated done mid summer.

I am not Riot and I am only relaying information I've gathered from the forums and riot posts. It seems like it is about the average time between the Xin rework and when Evelyn should be ready. Probably with a new champion in between like usual.

Moonboy651 votes

actually, Eve will be before preseason (AKA patch 7.22)

Kynin1 votes

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actually, Eve will be before preseason (AKA patch 7.22)

You do realize that patch 7.22 is close the end of the year right? And can you link where you were told that?

What was the point of replying discrediting everything I said just to tell me a date with no backing that aligns to everything I said?

Leyin1 votes

Xin was the last mini Rework that is done by the championew team , the designer was XenoGenick and some artists help him with the animations , VFX and SFX. Now the most should be done by the Live Gameplay Team like the reksai , Azir, singed , Diana Reworks Urgot , Evelynn are bugs VGUs. This one's are be done by 1 of the 5 Champ teams , a new champion takes about 6 months the others just around 1-2 months. These 5 teams are focused on creating new Champs and doing VGUS.

Malcha1 votes

Some reworks are smaller and less time consuming than others. Also the same teams aren't all working on the same thing. There isn't a single rework team with only 2 or 3 people working in a single champions. Multiple projects with overlapping timelines. It's natural that some will finish before others.

Being upset that Xin dropped before Eve is like being in line at the grocery store and being upset someone in the express lane got through the checkout faster, when you have a full cart.

It makes no sense.

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