When are we going to have a "Neutral Champions" update?

darkdill··5 votes·1,475 views

For those Champions who aren't aligned with any of the major factions, when are we going to be getting updates on them?

Examples include: Annie Nami Nocturne Shaco Morgana Kayle

In particular, I want to know what the heck is going on with our two angelic Champions, Kayle and Morgana.

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Variks the Loyal3 votes

I think they'll all be 'connected' to a certain realm or area of Runeterra.

For example, Rengar Khazix Nidalee Gnar are all independent (Kha'Zix is the Void, but he's more independent than aligned with Malzahar and them), but they could all be connected to a Kumungu Jungle event.

GreenLore2 votes

Yeah I think that is more likely. Bard & TahmKench could get their lore updates,when they do a spirit related event(as Shens lore makes it clear that demons are spirits too) Kindred and Janna would also fall into this category,but they got already a bio and color text

Brand Fiddlesticks Nocturne and Shaco might be retconned into spirits/demons.

Over Innsmouth1 votes

Bard's not a spirit though, he's the cosmic janitor.

GreenLore1 votes

He is a spirit,it even says so in his own lore

This enigmatic spirit has been given many names throughout the history of Valoran, but titles such as Cosmic Vagabond and Great Caretaker only capture a fleeting aspect of his true purpose

Wrathof3002 votes

Rammus and Maokai are the types of champions that are extremely important to the lore. They are in those regions because in the future they may play significant roles. Yorick is like the protagonist of the Shadow Isles but he is unable to do anything about it because if he tries to, the maiden of the mist WILL take him over hence he uses ghouls to research exactly what happened. Maokai however can roam freely and journey to the center of the Isles where it all happened. It is theorized that Rammus used to be an ancient Ascended (Azir Nasus and Renekton ) are ascendants, is Rammus their fate, to become fully animal? How old is Rammus in that case? In a future story it is possible through him the secrets of the ascension ritual could be revealed. So, yes, these champions are stagnant to the lore. Because they deal with a greater and bigger picture (Rammus more so than Maokai).

GenoXx1 votes

Um..Yorick IS doing something about it. The maiden is just made up of souls Yorick has made into a cloak. This cloak of his has thousands of souls. He's trying to collect every tortured soul he can manage to and give the rest.....once he is able to. He's using ghouls to research because it's too risky for him to go in enemey territory like Mordes or Karthus, maybe even the king's.

Wrathof3001 votes

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Um..Yorick IS doing something about it. The maiden is just made up of souls Yorick has made into a cloak. This cloak of his has thousands of souls. He's trying to collect every tortured soul he can manage to and give the rest.....once he is able to. He's using ghouls to research because it's too risky for him to go in enemey territory like Mordes or Karthus, maybe even the king's.

From both the lore and gameplay VO its evident that he has no control over the maiden. He only has the ability to control corpses not souls, but your interpretation is equally acceptable. But my main point was that Maokai could have an equally as important or greater role in the lore, I did refer to Yorick as the protagonist of the Shadow Isles, its not like I said he was being useless.

DWT123451 votes

Yeah, there are a LOT of them. Now that Universe is out though, I think they might just occasionally give random champions new stories, like they did with Jax Fiora Tristana etc. Hopefully all those stories weren't just to help the launch of universe, and they will continue to make more like them.

I think that once they finish covering all of the major regions (they still have Demacia, Noxus, Bandle City and Ionia to do, and maybe another Freljord one, since we didint really get much from the old one.), they will start focusing more on the lone wolf champions. Hopefully we get to see more stories like Shadow and Fortune, that showcased different champions (Lucian and Olaf) in a different environment, letting them interact with more champions.

Troll for Trump1 votes

Fiddlesticks Nocturne Aatrox Galio Jax Nunu (Freljord, ik, but still)Lulu Maokai Rammus Soraka

have some pretty strange lore

GreenLore1 votes

Uhm whats so strange about the lore ofMaokais or Rammus? They both have Bios and color texts(they are also tied to a nation,Maokai is tied to the shadow isles and Rammus is part of Shurima) http://universe.leagueoflegends.com/en_GB/champion/maokai http://universe.leagueoflegends.com/en_GB/champion/rammus

Also Galio is part of demacia,Lulu is from bandle city(yes she is also connected to the glade,but was always counted as a bandle champ as well) and Soraka is from Ionia...

Troll for Trump1 votes

They originate from that location, but don't really have any ties to the things there.

GreenLore1 votes

Uhm I don't think you are on the newest stand when it comes to lore,becuase they both LIVE at these locations. Rammus roams shurima and is basically a legend,that some people worship,wheras maokai roams the shadow isles,trying to undo the curse.

Troll for Trump1 votes

Yeah, and they're practically nonexistant, because they don't interact with anything.

You could move those people to any other place on runeterra and get the same thing. There's nothing sticking them to that place.

Maokai, you could justify it a little better than you could with the others, but still.

GreenLore1 votes

Maokais entire being is completely tied to the shadow isles. He is this way because of the curse,he lives now on the shadow isles and he is the one who tries to undo the curse.

And Rammus has entire cults dedicated to him in Shurima.

Yes they don't interact much with other champions there,but that doesn't mean they don't live there. Not to mention that they did already get lore updates,so why do you ask for more?

Also it looks like you aren't even reading what I write,considering that you seem to assume that I write about more than just Rammus and Maokai(as you talk about "the others" when the only one that I talked about besides maokai was only one champ,not multiple ones)

Troll for Trump1 votes

I write about others because they have similarities, where they don't really have ties.

You can place Maokai and his curse in some jungle anywhere on "runeterra."

And Rammus could be placed anywhere and have cults anywhere.

You could put him in Piltover and have something similar to VIktor's cultists.

GreenLore2 votes

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I write about others because they have similarities, where they don't really have ties.

You can place Maokai and his curse in some jungle anywhere on "runeterra."

By that logic you could place everyone everywhere

Why not make Garen a noxian and make him patriotic for Noxus? Why not make Ashe a shuriman leader instead of a freljordan?

Troll for Trump1 votes

Because Ashe and Garen have become more pivotal, with things based around them.

In Shurima, for instance, you have Azir, Xerath, Renekton, and Nasus connected.

Rammus is in Shurima, but he doesn't really have anything that makes him stick.

If you were to move Rammus away from Shurima, it wouldn't have an impact.

GreenLore2 votes

So a champion only belongs into a nation in your opinion if he is tied to their rulers or with other champs of said nation?

I don't really see the point of that tbh... Eitherway they both got already lore updates(when their nations were updated),so I dunno why you listed them in the first place

Wrathof3001 votes

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So a champion only belongs into a nation in your opinion if he is tied to their rulers or with other champs of said nation?

I don't really see the point of that tbh... Eitherway they both got already lore updates(when their nations were updated),so I dunno why you listed them in the first place

Well in most cases yeah, otherwise why bothering writing lore, if a champion can be placed anywhere and not make a difference. Don't get me wrong, there are numerous champions that interact outside of their region, but in the end they still have origins from somewhere. For example poppy, kled, kennen, heimerdinger and ziggs. All yordles that live in different regions but obviously all came from bandle city. Or Ivern originally from the frejord and became the tree man we know today in Ionia. And a couple more. At the end of the day though if Riot says they are from where they are, connections or not, they are from where they're from.

Wrathof3002 votes

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Fiddlesticks Nocturne Aatrox Galio Jax Nunu (Freljord, ik, but still)Lulu Maokai Rammus Soraka

have some pretty strange lore

Jax is likely a Shuriman man tainted by the Void. In his new story he is from Icathia, a city in Shurima enveloped by the Void. We will get new Galio lore with his rework probably.

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