What's happening with Sewn Chaos as a theme? Also, what didn't these skins, quality-wise?

Jakra··26 votes·3,350 views

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I don't know if people will agree with me when I say this, but I love the Sewn Chaos concept, and I think it would be a huge shame if this skin line were to disappear.

Which begs the question, if we knew the quality that Riot was after and met said quality for these skins, would we still be interested in the skins overall?

Edit: I just noticed I did a terrible job at titling the discussion. Sorry!

23 Comments

Sexy Jack Rabbit13 votes

I feel like the issue was that these skins did not feel 'Sewn Chaos' they had this really weird teddy bear motif, and it felt like they were trying to appeal to Annie's lore, more so then the skin-line created alongside Orianna's release. I don't think the champion selection was necessarily wrong, I just think the Skins team vision was a little bit clouded because there isn't really much to work off of. Orianna's skin is very old, and very out-dated. It doesn't give riot much room to say "This is what people like about this skin". It's more of a situation of "People like this Orianna skin on Orianna."

That being said I'm not sure it was entirely necessary to scrap the skins, I just think they could have gone through some serious re-texturing. Add in little patches and more notable seams. That way they could have met that patchy, gritty, worn and torn creepy look that Orianna's has.

Moonboy651 votes

they will probably shelve them

Jakra1 votes

Sewn Chaos worked on Orianna because she's clearly not human, but has that human shape. So making her into a messy and creepy looking doll made perfect sense. She's not fooling anyone with her appearance in terms of being human, but still has that "empty shell" description of where she might've been a human once. I like that, which is why I don't really like the Winter Wonderland skin or that Heartseeker skin, where it loses that description.

More so, you don't get anything like that description with Blitzcrank or Amumu, where that humanoid shape is just simply not there. I do really like those skins, but I don't think it should've been called "Sewn Chaos", maybe something like "Sewn Awakening".

The splash art gave me less "Chaos" and more "Awoke" because it doesn't look like those two are there to cause chaos, but more like trying to live, or about to come to life from being encased in a toy box. But that's stretching it, and I don't think it covers the quality issues which made the skins canceled.

Personally, I love the idea of Sewn Chaos becoming a full fledged skin line, so here's hoping they really do make an effort in making it a fully realised series!

Blakiepug2 votes

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I feel like the issue was that these skins did not feel 'Sewn Chaos' they had this really weird teddy bear motif, and it felt like they were trying to appeal to Annie's lore, more so then the skin-line created alongside Orianna's release. I don't think the champion selection was necessarily wrong, I just think the Skins team vision was a little bit clouded because there isn't really much to work off of. Orianna's skin is very old, and very out-dated. It doesn't give riot much room to say "This is what people like about this skin". It's more of a situation of "People like this Orianna skin on Orianna."

That being said I'm not sure it was entirely necessary to scrap the skins, I just think they could have gone through some serious re-texturing. Add in little patches and more notable seams. That way they could have met that patchy, gritty, worn and torn creepy look that Orianna's has.

Then rename the skins if the issue is the name! >.< Like Stuffed Amumu and Stuffed Blitzcrank. But if these two skins really aren't being released simply because they differ too much from the theme of Sewn Chaos then that is ridiculous. This would be akin to not releasing the Super Galaxy Kindred and Shyvana skins from last year because they looked more Neon Strike than Super Galaxy.

Oleandervine9 votes

The quality felt lacking, but that's because Amumu and Blitz had base skin particles that make the plushie doll skins awkward. Increasing the quality from 750 to 1350 and giving them full particle overhauls would fix any awkwardness these skins had.

DwarvenGiant1 votes

I may have missed something in your comment, but the two (more notably Amumu) had recolored/unique VFX that are supposed to match each of the two skins' theme, model and colors.

Oleandervine1 votes

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I may have missed something in your comment, but the two (more notably Amumu) had recolored/unique VFX that are supposed to match each of the two skins' theme, model and colors.

Amumu had his Q and E given new VFX and Blitz had his Q given a new VFX. Both instances of these VFX changes were fairly low quality (Amumu only getting just strips of color for his bandage and his tantrums) and could have used a lot more work. Additionally, Amumu's ultimate, his W, and Blitzcrank's ultimate didn't have new VFX. Using the base skin VFX for the two ultimates (Amumu's W is passable as is) makes the skins awkward - why is a small doll creating Egyptian-style runes in a ring around him, and why is a doll creating electrical surges and storms? It made little sense, and this is why they needed more extensive VFX work done, and possibly being upgraded into 1350 skins instead of remaining at 750. What these skins need in terms of VFX to make sense is fully reworked VFX across all abilities so that everything fits the theme - often times, champs that have very thematic VFX for their base skin don't have those VFX translate very well if a dramatic skin theme is applied and keeps those base skin VFX.

AgeOfTheMage5 votes

loved swen chaos orianna sewn chaos kindred might be a cool idea, wolf and lamb like puppets or somethin

Jakra3 votes

I actually really like the sound of that!

AgeOfTheMage1 votes

yeah, wolf could have sort of, well, not really a string, but something attached to the side of kindred that moves with wolf, or he could be held by strings, i think it'd be really cool to have them be like puppets, imagine when they vault o-o

Jakra1 votes

I can imagine Wolf being more of a sock puppet, honestly. Lmao

Scoroct2 votes

Sewn chaos jhin could also work well. His lanky limbs almost remind me of Woody from Toy Story

Sharjo2 votes

The fact that new Sewn Chaos skins were even considers speak to what could be Riot believing it's a worthwhile skin line to pursue, though I'd imagine they wanna look at that skin line hard before trying again.

While I personally don't have much interest in the Sewn Chaos theme, threads commenting on the skin's cancellation have had plenty of people coming in saying that they really like Orianna's skin, and so I feel like there's potentially a decent demand. It was really the individual skins here, not the theme itself. I'd encourage Riot to try again with this skin line in the future.

Jakra1 votes

So do you think that the theme was right, but the champion selection was wrong?

Like for example, if they went with Camille or Ivern instead then it might've been received better?

Eira2 votes

I'm upset that these are being removed. then the support site tells me to post in content and creations about this ( after I tried to open a ticket to complain tbh) then my post gets deleted and I'm told to post here???

I dunno, this just added to my saltiness about these skins being removed.

Placentas1 votes

They should have made Sewn Chaos versions of yordles and other animal-like champs such as Volibear and Alistar. I don't even think Amu & Blitz were bad choices, just not the best choices and were not executed that well. Their models on SR really just didn't look very "sewn chaos", just kinda chaotic and messy.

TwitchInMyPants1 votes

I think these skins easily meet 750-1350 value. Some particle effects, more focus on the remodel to give it an "evil toy" look. Tho I don't think these two new ones really fit the bill as much, part of sewn chaos is the "chaos" bit.

DragonShea1 votes

Riot, you done fucked on your skins for once.

Cpt Aggressive1 votes

I think what made the sewn chaos skin so successful on orianna is that she is an inanimate creation brought to life It was never cute it felt creepy,evil and twisted. I feel champions such as Syndra, amumu, Annie, Mundo, hecarim, eve, malzehar, kassadin, kallista, reksai, Elise, morgana, velkoz, varus. Champions who lend them selves towards dark and twisted. I've even felt a bit inspired and drawn my own twisted sewn chaos syndra.

Vier1 votes

The colours were really weird. I really think they should look similar to base skins except stitched up. Amumu was a good choice but Blitz was a terrible one in my opinion.

A problem the Amumu skin had was that it was "readable" as Teemo.

These champions were not the best choice, they do not really fit the theme in my opinion. Something like Sewn Chaos Kalista where she is holding a needle and is attached to her passive partner with thread would be cool imo.

They just need to pick better champions, Blitzcrank with those feet and electricity particles looked nothing like a "Sewn Chaos" and they really need to add particles to give that feeling of thread, cotton, wool, etc. on every ability.

Eira1 votes

I really wish Riot would at least acknowledge the many posts about this.

Jakra1 votes

I'm just going to be honest here, I wasn't intending for this to be seen by Riot, but a part of me hopes to see a red come in to say where Riot stands on Sewn Chaos. [zombie-nunu-bummed]

Eira1 votes

Same. One can hope here. :(

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