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Some personal comments on Quinn's lore

KoKoboto·3/27/2017, 12:42:23 AM·7 votes·1,039 views

In the previous lore there was a real reason as to why Valor and Quinn developed such a strong bond, being that Quinn nursed Valor back to health and in turn she also overcame her depression over losing Caleb. Now it just seems Valor comes outta no where to help Quinn for whatever reason and than decides to stick with her? Maybe this is just a thing for Azurite Eagles, they just go around and help Demacians and that's why their like a symbol for Demacia kinda. Maybe it's like a "emotional reference to Caleb" or something with how she "saw in it's eyes a deep well of kinship". I think the meet up was poorly done in my opinion.

I already dislike Sona in game and don't care about her much in lore, I dislike her even more now after reading about the Buvelles being kinda the reason why Caleb died. Also it feels like the only reason they were introduced into the story was so that "Wow Quinn is good but nah she isn't like legit"-Demacia Guy, "Wow no she saved my life in the past and I remember her wow so let her in wow"-Buvelle girl. Just seems like pointless fluff, I'm reading Quinn's lore not this other mumbo jumbo, if anything this bit only tells us that the Buvelles have influence over what goes down in Demacia, which shouldn't really be a part of Quinn's biography . It's nice information but why in her biography, if you wanted to hint at Buvelle so much at least put it in her short story.

I remember when Quinn and Valor was ACTUALLY Quinn and Valor, if Rito really wanted to try and bring that duo partnership back they could've at least went into more description about Valor this time around.

I wonder if the Day of Lost Night will be a lore event, sounds great if it is and also sounds like it connects a bit to the Garen and Lux story "For Demacia" cause 'Day of Lost Night' is dark and relates. That'd be neat.

Moving onto her short story, really loved the art they made, looks great even though it's simple compared to the splasharts they have, all the sketches look amazing.

At first I thought "eh this is kinda lame with the steps" but after reading I enjoyed it. I guess I just had a bit of prejudice on different writing styles.

Riot did a great job at aligning the current character in game to the character we have now. I can totally imagine Quinn doing this,"the decision made, she pushed herself to her feet and strode into the campsite as if her being there was the most natural thing in the world. She stood at the edge of the firelight, her hood raised and her oiled stormcloak drawn tightly around her". All while making sure the necessary precautions we're made and that she wasn't being reckless at all.

Learned that an oiled stormcloak is a cloak that is kinda water proof, back in the day they waxed stuff so it made it water proof, liked the detail they put in here also with setting and how she would have to get the bugs up outta her clothes.

Writer did an amazing job at describing the whole action scene, I felt the badassery when Quinn took the cloak off and fired the first shot like DAMN! It was like one of those badass things where the person goes in and everyones dead and than freezes at the end.

I found it difficult to visualize Valor fighting though, I don't wanna blame it on the author and I can't really critique because I have never read or watched anything of a bird fighting. I just don't understand how it would work and it really sucks that I have troubles visualizing the teamwork going on.

16 Comments

Placentas3/27/2017, 1:07:32 AM7 votes

Yeah I actually prefer what happened in the old lore where she finds Valor and nurses him back to health.

Ya, Valor coming in to rescue Quinn is heroic and adds drama, but it definitely feels random as all hell. Like idk, maybe if it were hinted at there was an Azurite eagle nest near by on a cliff or tree with little chicks in it who watched the first battle with the boar-thing.

So then later it recognizes Quinn and the situation and that's why it helps her out.

Like with the old lore it kind of implied Valor was a reincarnation of Caleb or something similar to that.

I also feel like it kind of undermines Quinns skill alone which would be a good thing if Quinn's in game play was more involved with Valor. Ya, we have the Q where we actively see Valor strike. The W is cool, but it's not like we see Valor in action. And R, he's just a taxi now...

Felvyne3/27/2017, 9:46:12 AM4 votes

If I'm not mistaken, Quinn nurses Valor after he's damaged fighting de boar? A broken wing too.

Mogarl3/27/2017, 4:41:18 AM3 votes

I agree for the most part, overall I think it was really well written however Valor kind of came out of left field. The part with the Buvelles made some degree of sense with Demacia being much more structured. Quinn would need an in. Valor really does need some explaining though.

Sexy Jack Rabbit3/27/2017, 4:02:29 AM2 votes

I felt like alongside Vayne's new lore, they tried to make Quinn's lore FAR too focused on being "Edgy" and "Cool" instead of trying to make her character more fufilled.

Quinn really doesn't strike me as someone to be non-chalant about things, especially with her story adding in those "Rules" for no apparent reason.

Valor Bot3/27/2017, 5:05:37 AM1 votes

Valor's entrance does leave some unexplained questions I think, though there are plausible reasons for why he may have helped Quinn regardless of whether the bio explicitly states them or not.

My (admittedly wild) guess is that the tuskvore snatched up some of Valor's eggs / killed his family not long before Quinn reencountered it at the site of Caleb's death, so when he spotted the beast rampaging against Quinn he decided to help her and subsequently stick with her, seeing as he had nowhere left to go. I think the most likely reason is that Demacian eagles are just naturally honorable though, and will attempt to help those in need, so he flew in to save Quinn.

P.S. I think the story makes it quite clear how Valor fights, and it makes sense to me. He's not a small bird -- he's able to force people off their feet just by pushing down on their shoulders with his talons, and can rip off their faces with a single sweep of his claws. He's obviously very powerful and relies on being airborne/moving quickly to avoid retaliation.

LunSeiSleidee3/27/2017, 9:28:14 AM1 votes

Yeah, Riot should pretty much fire whoever wrote the new lores. Garen's and Lux's are ok, but the other ones are messy and dumb and far worse than the previous lores.

Dr Forrester3/27/2017, 2:07:55 PM1 votes

Valor is not a character we find pinned, wiggling on the wall. His appearance is very much like that familiar passage ~

_"The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit." _

A quote I believe segues quite keenly into the enigmatic "well of kinship" reference. We're uncomfortable with the notion that Valor may be something altogether more than the Azurite Eagle. That is because the nature of Valor and his relationship to Quinn is now open-ended, tensive, indirect, and finally agnostic. Valor both is and he is not Caleb resurrected. The truth is too complex, rich, and varied to be captured in any one model. That's good lore.