Despite the inevitable hype over the new champion, I'm not that exited.

kasfas··1 votes·970 views

Now I'm not saying riot did or is going to do a bad job with her, because in reading the story I felt like she had potential to be a good and interesting champion. The likes of which would be a fine addition to the game.

My problem is with the relation between her personality and abilities. That and as well the fact that she is likely going to be a battlemage, which seems like we now have too many of due to the Mage rework.

Maybe it's because I was a big avatar fan back in the day and I held this champion up against Toph, but I just don't see myself really liking her.

She seems too emotionally weak to be a geomancer (earthbender), and that's just something that I cannot appreciate in someone with so much potential power. Earth is the element of strength and surety, being secure with yourself and stable. She just does not seem to embody the EARTH side of her character.

If you had ever noticed, the majority of earthbenders in the avatar series were (although goofy most of the time) collected and strong, never unsure or unwilling. seems to possess an excessive amount of some of these traits, mostly in the fact that she isn't (or at least doesn't seem) "strong."

If she turns out to be more, -like in-game then she seems to be a GREAT champion, but as it stands her current lore makes her sound too weak to be an earthbender, and I don't think of her too fondly.

Edit: should have mentioned earlier that her kit may make her incredibly fun, but it's her story that I'm not the most fond of.

I expect great thing from riot, and I hope that that wasnt all they had for this champion.

12 Comments

Fasmodey4 votes

Well, to be honest, Bolin isn't a strong earthbender either but there he is. It is most likely that's just a general thing, not every eartbender has to have strong personality.

Even before that, that's not Avatar series. It's League of Legends. May be in this place, water mages are supposed to have stronger personality than earth mages?

kasfas1 votes

I know, it's just my disposition to believe in earth as being this super strong thing, and taliyah seems too weak in the sense of earth. I get its done for character development, but it doesn't change the fact that I don't like how her story makes her seem.

I'm not saying that riot shouldn't have made her lacking of some flaw, even if it is being somewhat conservative with her power, but I think they took it a bit too far.

It is however a story, and people will each have their own opinions about it. ''Twas still a good read, and I'm glad they introduced some of her skills into the tale as well.

Ralanr2 votes

The reason for earth benders being collective and strong was because they represent the very nature of earth itself (hence why most firebenders had anger issues except for Iroh and (later) Zuko, who learned the true nature of fire).

Now you say she isn't strong, and for the most part I can agree since she seems rather frightened of her abilities. Yet at the same time, she stared down a mountain lion with a sling. A freaking sling. Didn't scream, didn't run, just stared it down. I don't know if that is meant to be common in Shurima, but if so then their women are not to be messed with.

Her weakness seems to stem from her fear of hurting those she cares about, balancing the act of destruction and creation. Yasuo at least explains to her that either is fine depending on the purpoe, which is a good break from the whole, "Destruction bad! Never do that!" Aesop.

kasfas1 votes

Yeah, I didn't exactly expect that kind of thing from yasuo, he's wiser than I thought. But in any case it was still a good story, and I bet the champion will be fun once she comes out.

Jeddy0172 votes

Well,maybe that's what Riot is going for. They didn't want to start her out as some calm,cool & collected earthbender who never doubt themselves. They want to show Tali's development.

Helmight1 votes

This.

Also, Riot has a habit of inverting tropes so they're not EXACTLY what you're expecting. Nami is a mermaid, but more fish than human. We got two separate dragons, but one's only a dragon half the time and the other is more cosmic god than fire-breathing beast. I wouldn't be surprised if Taliyah never adopted the stereotypical earth mentality.

ModWulf Helhammer1 votes

There's kinda a whole reason she had a mentor to help her gain control of her powers

GreenLore1 votes

I think its actually a good thing that they went with a completely different approach to the "earth-mage"-type of character.

After all this isn't avatar and making the champ this tough earth-bender-girl would have just made her look a bit like a toph-ripoff,which would have been bad in its own way,not to mention that this whole "tough-earth-mage" is kinda overdone anyway.

Overall I'd say that personalitywise she kinda seems more like an air-bender(she even has a bird-theme going on),which is a bit ironic,but still a welcome change.

kasfas1 votes

She doesn't need to be Tough, she just seems too weak for what she is.

An earthbender doesn't NEED to have their personality set in stone, but should at worst be as friable as a slab of diatomite. She is too much akin to shifting sands, which makes her connection to shurima clear, but she left shurima, and spent time in NOXUS of all places. If any place were to toughen her up, it would be Noxus.

I would've been appeased if she didn't freak out as much about accidentally hurting someone, or taking everything as her fault. It would've been more satisfying, for me personally, if she said something along the lines of: "Aww dang, I gotta go help that guy! He's probably hurt because of me!" As opposed to: " Oh no! I hurt someone! I need to go save their life and become good friends with them!"

GreenLore1 votes

I think that would have been ok,but honestly not very interesting to me(and would have pretty much destroyed the whole base for the story,I mean she joined noxus,because she hoped to master her abilities,so that she doesn't hurt anyone accidently)

The interesting part for me is that her personality is so untypical for the element. It kinda reminds me of aang and his problems with fire&earth-bending.

Ethereal3111 votes

She's actually a blank slate for self-insertion. She reads exactly like every other female lead in modern literature.

LuminosN1 votes

She's still learning how to use her power,Aang wasn't a confident god of an avatar from the start,he was unsure at his firebending and earthbending at the start and thought he'd never learn earthbending

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