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TurquoiseYoshi107 votes

Leona in general is rarely sexualized.

wormgiy15 votes

Well when someone is a strong fighter and defender why do they need to be sexualized?

Only Play Darius57 votes

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Well when someone is a strong fighter and defender why do they need to be sexualized?

I mean old Sejuani was a tank who lived in a frozen environment yet she fought in a bikini.

TurquoiseYoshi52 votes

There was a reason why she was changed.

Sharjo8 votes

Still feel like they could've kept the bikini if they just made her a wall of meat instead of skinny as hell.

Still like the armour though.

Ariel the Cruel28 votes

Fat Kid Sejuani skin confirmed.

Adraxar6 votes

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There was a reason why she was changed.

Yea? Completely dumb reason.

Armored with absolute faith in her destiny, Sejuani pushed herself to extremes that would have killed anyone without her will to endure. She walked into blizzards without food or furs and trained while frigid winds raked her flesh. She clashed with the strongest warriors of her tribe, one after another, until her legs gave out beneath her. When she assumed leadership of her tribe, Sejuani commanded her warriors to follow her example. Under her rule, the tribe grew stronger than they had ever been.

She is the most badass woman League has ever seen. She exposed as much skin as possible, not for sake of exposing skin but for showing dominance. Showing how much she does not care. How much stronger than anyone else she is. And IronStylus took it all away by giving her full armor. F*ck you IronStylus. This is not feminism, this is BS.

TurquoiseYoshi12 votes

And she shows her dominance by wearing a bikini? Look at Darius. He looks threatening without having to be semi-nude. I would think what you wear is less important than what you do. If she acts threatening, it really doesn't matter if she is even wearing clothes. I would say she looks more threatening in her new splash.

LoquaciousKumqat5 votes

In fairness to her Tryndamere, Trundle, Braum, and Udyr don't even wear shirts. In fact, Sejuani actually wearing full armor and clothing is out of place strangely enough.

FebruAhri14 votes

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I mean old Sejuani was a tank who lived in a frozen environment yet she fought in a bikini.

I mean current Tryndamere lives in a frozen environment but fights shirtless

Wulfy3 votes

Except Iron Stylus was not told her lore when he made that champion's default skin, so he didn't realize the full ridiculousness of her outfit as he did not yet work for Riot at the time.

TurquoiseYoshi18 votes

My point is that she isn't and doesn't need to be sexualized in any situation, not just in her PROJECT skin.

moomoomilkUwU9 votes

That's because Riot wants to make her seem beautiful, radiant, and elegant like the sun, unlike a champion such as Ahri who is portrayed as being seductive and sexy. Kayle is also shown to be heavenly and beautiful much like Leona, which is probably the reason why a lot of players got mad when Riot replaced Kayle's splash art with one that pronounces her butt and breasts well.

LadyRenly55 votes

Stupid sexy Annie flaunting her bear chest

StarryKosmik17 votes

I'll stop complaining when riot creates female character with more body diversity. The male champs have such a wide range of shapes and sizes. But all the girls are small and pretty, most of which with some form of emphasis on the breast area.

Call me when they make a huge, fat monster female tank.

VulcanIsHere13 votes

Gragas A man of a different shape. Idk how to please you.

MohawkBird31 votes

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StarryKosmik3 votes

shes wearing a bikini, you dont need huge breasts to be sexualized.

SecretAgentHulk21 votes

RekSai

Krigjer13 votes

They are so overly sexualized and genericly the same body type aren't they?

Rek'sai is straight up a CREATURE. Lulu is a Yordle, small and childlike by nature. Bad example. Annie is a child. And Jinx is the first non-curvy woman in LoL. Before Jinx, all. ALL of the HUMAN. ADULT. WOMEN. Looked the same.

Embertine15 votes

Regardless rek'sai is female.

Again,

But all the girls are and pretty small pretty, with some form of emphasis on the breast area.

And I'm pretty sure that (based on the splash arts and in game models of course,) lux, leona, sona, kayle, and eve all have different sized busts.

StarryKosmik2 votes

Jinx still has emphasis on her breast. They put her in a bikini top.

Embertine14 votes

So it's okay for a real woman to wear a bikini in public all the time and not a fake one to do it in a game? Yet the real woman isn't sexualized but the fake one is?

Shíny5 votes

The real woman chooses what she wears, Jinx was created by Riot.

Embertine18 votes

And you were created by your mother and father, dressed by your mother and father until you were old enough to dress yourself, and were also taught what to wear by your mother and father as well as those around you. Riot is doing the same for their fictional characters. The difference is that they dress them as how they see they would dress themselves given their personalities, similar to how real peoples' personalities effect how they dress themselves.

Krigjer20 votes

And I'm pretty sure that (based on the splash arts and in game models of course,) lux, leona, sona, kayle, and eve all have different sized busts.

I'm not sure why this matters? Jinx is.How do I put this bluntly but delicately... People fap to Jinx even though she's small-breasted. People find that attractive. THAT'S FINE.

To me (I can't speak for anyone else) these women aren't sexualized because of their bust-size, it's because their splasharts have them arching their back in uncomfortable ways or have armour with individual metal pockets for each breast. Why does their 'armour' look like a balconette bra? That's my issue.

Embertine8 votes

I agree that busts size has nothing to do with sexualization. It's only when unescessary attention is put on them that they become sexual. As well as the curviture of their spines, how they are standing, etc.

StarryKosmik9 votes

Jinx still has emphasis on her breast. They put her in a bikini top. plus annie and lulu still fall under pretty and small. If rek'sai is the only good example of a monster lady, thats really sad. Let me show you all the female characters with this body type I'm describing.

Ahri Akali Ashe Caitlyn Cassiopeia Elise Evelynn Fiora Diana Irelia Janna Janna Jinx Kalista Karma Katarina Leblanc Leona Lulu Lux MissFortune Morgana Nami Nidalee Orianna Quinn Riven Sejuani Shyvana Sivir Sona Soraka Syndra Vayne Vi Zyra

Even those without there boobs out make sure you know they have boobs by putting breast plates in the design

Maybe u could include 2 or 3 more females in your list but the fact that the list is so small compared to those on my list, that there is the problem.

Embertine9 votes

well yeah annie and lulu fall under pretty and small, but neither of them are sexualized and neither of them fall in under all woman having to have big boobs and/or butts.

Sona doesn't have a boob plate, nor shyvana (in her case that is her chest itself, thsu she technically has no boobs at all) Eve doesn't even have armor, and in my opinion is one of the few that are actually sexualized.

If you would, show the exact areas that are sexualized about them all, and show that they are in fact sexualized.

StarryKosmik10 votes

Your right sona doesnt she just has her chest out. And shyvanna does have breast plates. lather she has a plate with her under boob sticking out underneath.
and I'm not going to take the time to show you the breast on all the adult women.

**Your missing my whole point, my point is I'm tired of seeing girls with this shape every time. **I want girl with as much body shape diversity as the men have. Would it really hurt riot to create more characters like the skin above that dont have feminine shapes in them? Would it have killed them to extend shyvanna's chest plate so we couldnt see her under breast? would it have killed them to given lux a round chest pieced that didnt come skin tight to her boobs?

You guys act like "oh heres this tiny little lump of girls" and act like thats enough, like riot has dont there jobs. Honestly I enjoy the sexy skins, but the issue isnt that they exist the issue is that theres so much of it.

**Imagine a game with a bunch of male champs and they come in about 3 shapes: Ezriel, Varus, and veigar. Those are you choices. No awesome creative characters like Xerath or Velkoz orUrgot or Twitch orTahmKench or Galio. Do you get how frustrating that gets after awhile? How boring? ** I dont get why it's such a sin to want a larger variety of female body shapes, especially when the male characters already have them. That my point and if you dont get that, well Idk what to say to you.

ArkenStorm9 votes

YOU are missing the point. Girls DON'T have that shape every time. You are ignoring all examples given to you that break that. Oh yeah, well sure THOSE aren't in the mold, but everything else BUT them is.

GreenLore4 votes

The thing is that those examples are still the exception.

What Itra seras is talking about is the variety among female champs is still not that big. We've got 2 inhuman female champs with RekSai &Anivia,we've got a few who aren't exactly human,but still have a rather humanoid shape with Cassiopeia Nami Orianna Soraka & more or less Shyvana (not counting Zyra&ahri here,because they look already extremely human),4 with child sized bodies(Annie ,Tristana Poppy & Lulu ),who looks like a teenager(Lux although she might be just small) and 2 who stand out due to their skinnynessJinx &Kalista

However all this pales in comparison to the amount of male variety. Among the male champs there are Aatrox Alistar Azir Blitzcrank Brand Chogath Fiddlesticks Fizz Galio Gnar Hecarim Heimerdinger Jax Kennen Khazix KogMaw Nasus Nautilus Nocturne Rammus Renekton Rengar Rumble Skarner TahmKench Teemo Thresh Trundle Twitch Urgot Velkoz Viktor Volibear Warwick MonkeyKing Xerath Zac Nasus Malphite Maokai who could be seen as monsters or nonhuman champs with some humanoid features. Those alone are already more than all the outstanding female examples alone. And they don't even take into consideration that there are still more body types for the more humanlike champs as well. We've got childsized males with Amumu,teenagersized with Ekko &Ezreal,extremely bulky guys with Braum Sion DrMundo Mordekaiser ,fat champions with Gragas ,thin guys with Swain LucianVladimir ,etc(not gonna bother to list them all) and some who aren't as bulky as braum and so on,but still muscular which is pretty much one of the largest parts of the male cast. Not to mention that among the non-human champs who have still a humanoid shape,there is also much more variety among them,some are bulky,like Alistar&Trundle,some are fat like Urgot&Tahm,some are small like all the furry yordles&Fizz,etc.

ModAttysu The Poro8 votes

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Jinx still has emphasis on her breast. They put her in a bikini top. plus annie and lulu still fall under pretty and small. If rek'sai is the only good example of a monster lady, thats really sad. Let me show you all the female characters with this body type I'm describing.

Ahri Akali Ashe Caitlyn Cassiopeia Elise Evelynn Fiora Diana Irelia Janna Janna Jinx Kalista Karma Katarina Leblanc Leona Lulu Lux MissFortune Morgana Nami Nidalee Orianna Quinn Riven Sejuani Shyvana Sivir Sona Soraka Syndra Vayne Vi Zyra

Even those without there boobs out make sure you know they have boobs by putting breast plates in the design

Maybe u could include 2 or 3 more females in your list but the fact that the list is so small compared to those on my list, that there is the problem.

Half of these people are small by nature, can you picture a fatass assassin Katarina the size of a Gragas? I think not. And Vi of all people? She wears a whole thing of armor, and the reason she's not that muscular is because its her Hextech goggles that do most of the heavy damage, she just moves her body and it blows shit up.

StarryKosmik3 votes

thats not the point the point is that theres not any fat female characters, that they didnt try to make characters that need to be big.

They sat down to make a female character and there first thought was small, humanoid with boobs. Would it really hurt riot to design something like a girl as a big troll like bodyy to be a top laner who weilds a huge set of gardening tools that she uses to rip apart her enemies?

Or what if a little old lady assasin, with ninja like moves, wise beyond her years?

That kind of logic is just an excuse for their in creativity.

ModAttysu The Poro7 votes

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thats not the point the point is that theres not any fat female characters, that they didnt try to make characters that need to be big.

They sat down to make a female character and there first thought was small, humanoid with boobs. Would it really hurt riot to design something like a girl as a big troll like bodyy to be a top laner who weilds a huge set of gardening tools that she uses to rip apart her enemies?

Or what if a little old lady assasin, with ninja like moves, wise beyond her years?

That kind of logic is just an excuse for their in creativity.

From Riot paraphrased: "We'll make an old lady character or a fat character if and when the story fits for them." Diversity for the sake of diversity doesn't make sense.

Krigjer11 votes

'Look at this single good example out of dozens of overly sexualized women! SEE this company totally doesn't oversexualize everything! So stop complaining!'

I mean, lol. It's FINE to create and enjoy something sexual, like erotic video game fanart. But stop defending it with the most idiotic of reasons.

Krigjer9 votes

I'm going to quote you with this said by another user:

You don't need to have all your skin showing to be sexualized...

See : Huge boobs, huge ass

And leave you be. IMO boobplates and purposely arching a woman's back to seem 'sexy' are not good examples.

  1. The way Riven is standing in Championship? That's not a natural posture, and neither is it comfortable.
  2. Kayle's individual, METAL boob socks on her breastplate. That's not how armour works. Project Leona is very good, that's a great breastplate design! Individual pockets for each breast... is dumb and uncessary.

'If no boobs, how woman?' comes to mind.

Embertine12 votes

Well the "boob" plate actually existed in real life, so it's not hard to see a game company use it on a medieval warrior woman.

And also, Just because a woman has huge boobs does not mean she is sexualized. There are plenty of real life woman whom have large breasts without implants. So it's no surprise that a gaming company will also include large breasted woman in their game, especially if they want to appeal to both genders and want the female gamers to have characters they can identify with. The same can be said of butts too. Now if the character is designed in such a way that the most prominent feature and the only thing you even notice when looking at them, is their breasts and ass, then that is overly sexualized. However just because a female character has large breasts and/or ass, does not mean they are sexualized, only that they have that body type. There are plenty of woman in real life whom have busts and butt sizes like those of the woman in league.

Krigjer13 votes

http://io9.com/why-boob-plate-armor-would-actually-kill-you-496925522

The only 'boobplate' that exists are for modern day LARP. Cosplay recreated from a work of fiction. It does not belong on an actual human figure on the battlefield. I wouldn't want to wear a piece of metal with cups cut out of it specifically for my breasts. I already have the underwire of my bra poking my ribcage. Metal? lol no thanks.

I was merely quoting the other person that showing skin isn't the only way to sexualize someone, but okay. Why does Orianna, a clockwork ROBOT. A METAL CREATION, have breasts? Because if no boobs, how know female?\

I'm reiterating that it's fine to have oversexualization. Just stop defending it by saying 'It's okay guys, this handful of other characters aren't sexualized so it balances out!'

Embertine17 votes

Well actually it has been found to have existed. However the fact that woman were not typically found on the battlefield meant that blacksmiths never really made any, with the exception of a few rare instances of which wealthy families wanted them for their daughters or wives. While it looked nothing like the boobplate you see in games, it did infact take into account the female chest in its design, leaving room for her bust. It wasn't made with cups, but instead had the front of the plate sloped outward to provide room.

And Oriana's body was designed to appear as a woman. So of course she would have her chest plate shaped as it is. In lore that is what she was designed as. If her following lore is a problem then it is the lore that needs to be changed.

And it isn't just a handful of female champions. If when you look at a female champion and you immediately think sex, than you are the one with the problem, not Riot. Just because a woman happens to be in a bikini does not means she's sexualized. She's just in a bikini. Just because a woman has large breasts and butt doesn't mean she's sexualized either, it's simply her genetics. And if you want to blame that then you need to start going to god about it and not complaining about people making fictional characters in a fictional world based in a game, that has no actual impact on anything of importance in real life.

BakedLotion8 votes

Leona isnt sexualized in anything but her pool party skin

Peridition53 votes

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Leona isnt sexualized in anything but her pool party skin

To a purtian maybe. She's like 60% covered in that splash...

BakedLotion6 votes

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To a purtian maybe. She's like 60% covered in that splash...

You don't need to have all your skin showing to be sexualized...

See : Huge boobs, huge ass

Kouga55 votes

Because size = degree of sexuality.

That's why Jinx is a celibate, pious innocent while Leona having a figure means that she's a saucy minx just waiting for the pool boy to offer her his towel.

Remlap12235 votes

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Because size = degree of sexuality.

That's why Jinx is a celibate, pious innocent while Leona having a figure means that she's a saucy minx just waiting for the pool boy to offer her his towel.

It's funny because it's the exact opposite. Leona probably considers her armor as part of her skin, while I'm sure Jinx's tendency to get excited is a metaphor, if you know what I mean.

SexySoapTurtle6 votes

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It's funny because it's the exact opposite. Leona probably considers her armor as part of her skin, while I'm sure Jinx's tendency to get excited is a metaphor, if you know what I mean.

Trollers gonna troll

Meep Man9 votes

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Leona isnt sexualized in anything but her pool party skin

Even then her beach wear is hardly revealing for beach wear.

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