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Not really liking the Ahri stories

Linna Excel·4/29/2017, 4:58:05 AM·1 votes·627 views

It's not that they are terrible, the new direction just feels wrong. It's just like I had an idea of Ahri, but this isn't matching it so I don't know what to think of it besides there's something off about everything. I think riot is reconning too much about her story, and even though some people like it, I'm not one of them. Ahri lacking responsibility and the desire to become something better isn't Ahri. IDK what the balls thing is going on about and frankly I don't find it interesting at all. It feels like you guys wanted to tell a story and then jammed Ahri into it because she's popular but without really understanding her.

So I guess I'll just have to wait and see what Ahri's background 3.0 is like.

You know what the biggest problem with all this world building jazz is? You are doing it for the wrong type of game. If this were an MMO or any type of RPG and we visited the world building stuff, that'd be cool. If this were MTG and we got snippets of the world with the decks we were building, that'd be cool. If this were a PnP style game and these were hooks for adventures players could go on, that'd be cool.

But these aren't any of that.

Anyways I digress. I think these stories would be better if they got the champions they were talking about. Maybe I'm still bitter about possessed murdering brute Leona and her demon friends but it seems like Riot is just doing what ever and tacking the names of whichever champion they can on a story. I know people wanted more and better backgrounds and stories, but this really isn't cutting it.

Is it too soon to ask for another recon? Maybe one that understood the champions and developed them further from who they were instead of throwing darts at a board?

9 Comments

Wrathof3004/29/2017, 2:32:55 PM4 votes

Ahri is trying to become someone better, unlike the old story where she just wanted to be human. Being human == being a better person. Yes, the ymelo thing was kinda just shoved in, but at least she gas a reason to look for her tribe/ discover her past.

Lol, Leona never became a possessed murderer, you completely misinterpreted her actions because you didn't like the thought if her killing others.

GreenLore4/29/2017, 7:42:52 PM4 votes

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You know what the biggest problem with all this world building jazz is? You are doing it for the wrong type of game. If this were an MMO or any type of RPG and we visited the world building stuff, that'd be cool. If this were MTG and we got snippets of the world with the decks we were building, that'd be cool. If this were a PnP style game and these were hooks for adventures players could go on, that'd be cool.

But these aren't any of that.

So basically you are saying that just because LoL is a Moba,they shouldn't even try to make a nice ficitonal world?

Thats honestly kinda dumb Writers should always aim to make the story as good as they can. For something that takes place on such a broad scale,they should try to make a cohesive world.

Not to mention that you even bring up MtG as an example,which seems odd,because both are games where you pick beings from a fictional world and let them fight. The big difference being that in magic you do it mostly in 1v1 fights and in Lol you do it with a team of other people.

TyrekGoldenspear4/30/2017, 2:58:51 PM3 votes

I knew this would happen.

Ahri's original lore was developed in its vagueness, enough to attract a slew of fans who headcanonned the rest.

Now that her story is more defined, conflict is inevitable.

MrHaZeYo4/29/2017, 5:04:34 AM2 votes

I enjoy the new stories

Linna Excel4/29/2017, 5:24:03 AM1 votes

Current Ahri eventually grew a conscience and morals after siphoning human essense (which comes to her as memories) to feed her hunger. She doesn't want to be a monster. She wants to be more human.

The difference is just that small detail. I feel that what's happening is that you're looking at every small detail and the moment a specific detail is changed, you immediately condemn it without trying to see how it could be interpreted and if it truly changes the character seriously.

"You only have to change a little to change everything." - Mark Rosewater.

In the old stories, Ahri was an animal that happened upon magic. She was just following her instincts as an animal until her human instincts started to grow. As her awareness and intellect grew, she begun to realize her changing situation.

In the new version, Ahri is an emo monster with too much self loathing and too little self control for my liking.

How do you think old Ahri would have handled it compared to current Ahri?

Probably not with murder followed by self pity and weakness.

What would have been the difference in perspective or opinion from either of them?

If I were to put it in color pie terms I'd put old Ahri as green animal turning into white/blue human in terms of personality, while the new Ahri is red/black.

In other words they are diametrically opposed.

How would you handle it if you were to decide to do a story about Ahri's PERSONAL life and development. Not just her moving around and interacting, but something that showcases her in a very personal and most likely private state of affairs.

I'd ask myself is it Ahri, is it interesting, and is it mechanically a good story?

For me, the new stories fail on the first two aspects.

WitchQueen Annie4/29/2017, 6:16:41 PM1 votes

i read both versions and I see no major difference in the overall direction

technical differences but not enough to leap out as "they ruined the character"

Valaran Nara4/29/2017, 5:13:11 AM1 votes

Ahri lacking responsibility and the desire to become something better isn't Ahri.

Originally Ahri eventually grew a conscience and morals after siphoning human essence to turn human.

Current Ahri eventually grew a conscience and morals after siphoning human essense (which comes to her as memories) to feed her hunger. She doesn't want to be a monster. She wants to be more human.

The difference is just that small detail. I feel that what's happening is that you're looking at every small detail and the moment a specific detail is changed, you immediately condemn it without trying to see how it could be interpreted and if it truly changes the character seriously.

She no longer wants to become human just because she was a fox that had magical abilities. She wants to be human because she realized that what she's been doing was seen as monstrous, evil, just overall condemning.

That's something the old Ahri also felt when she realized what she was doing in her attempts to becoming a human being.

Also, quick question. Let's say they didn't change Ahri's past, but still said that she fell in love with somebody.

How do you think old Ahri would have handled it compared to current Ahri?

What would have been the difference in perspective or opinion from either of them?

Do you think her EVER liking someone would detract from her personality or who she is as an individual?

How would you handle it if you were to decide to do a story about Ahri's PERSONAL life and development. Not just her moving around and interacting, but something that showcases her in a very personal and most likely private state of affairs.