Yo riot, Be honest with the community for once.

GenoXx··4 votes·708 views

How come you(for the story and art section only) you won't respond to criticism on the current lore. But answer ANY questions that are for the current lore from a person who seems like they really don't know the lore very well?

Such as someone asking about xerath's story from last year. But If some one were to ask "why isn't the promised lore here yet?" You don't even say anything to it. And If u we're to actually do it, you do it while u grit your teeth. Face the fucking facts, 85% of the people who likes lore want answers like a showed above. The rest are people who would ask "Where are you guys finding all this lore?" or @Riot So what exactly does Xerath's lore mean? Like seriously? You think it's best just to respond to threads like those but not threads like Riot, lets talk lore or Questions about Riot's plan for lore

Like come on, It's something to learn that you don't have a Narrative team through hidden clues. But now I see it's just "Champion Teams" and whoever is assigned for the lore. You couldn't tell us that instead of going along with us always asking for Narrative? What exactly is this tech issue? Or is that another Lie? Why don't you tell the community everything so we can understand? When you don't do that people pounce on reds because no one comes here to actually explain things.

Be honest for once. What do you expect us to talk about when we don't even know whats going on with the lore? You want to talk about core concepts, but how do u expect us to just talk about it If you can't even do something we want? Lore has drawn in alot of people including myself and to see it go in shambles from one Dev Blog is really disappointing and discouraging. It's even worst for you to constantly Tell us things that's not even going to happen. I hardly play the game anymore because I'm constantly on the Story and Art Boards hoping I'd see something new developing for the lore of this game. I have to convince myself to play it again by looking at the champion bios on the client.....How about you start acting like a real organized company and show a small part of the League community some love for once!!!

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S H A Y C 02 votes

It should be obvious by now. They are disorganized and the intelligence pool is underwhelming at best. They finally figured out they can make toys and sell them...congratulations, but even a broken clock is right twice a day. Dozens of other companies understand money, and all riot has to do is watch some tv commercials and holy crap!...they will see how disney makes money. What does money have to do with your lore thread?

Answer: Lore is nothing more than a carefully weaved series of backstories or "short stories" quite frankly most serious DnD players have done better in their spare time that Riot had done with any number of characters they made up over the last decade. What are short stories? Books waiting to happen. What are books? Money waiting to happen!

Think about it. what does disney or quite frankly any other company do ever in history of marketing.

  1. make original product.
  2. make toys and statues and plushies and tshirts 3)make movie 4)make tv series
  3. make books 6)make soundtracks

are we seeing a pattern? create anything remotely related to the original work and sell it, holy crap its not rocket science.

So why the lack of lore? Riot is seriously stupid. There can be no other explanation. Create the lore...write the books...sell them for money...FFS!!!! Be a COMPANY!!! SELL STUFF!!!! Amumu

redniwediS2 votes

Most threads I see that are completely passed over are either complaining about the gutting of champion lore, or asking questions about what's coming. No one likes complaining, and they are unwilling to spoil what they have planned.

As for them being "honest", I can't think of many times where they have gone back on their word, and I can't think of any time where they outright lied. If you have evidence to the contrary please post it.

Krigjer2 votes

League is a game based on 20-60 minute skirmishes. We sit in a lobby while we choose our champions. I'm a lore NUT. I love reading about the stories and characters. I roleplay in RPGs, make my own OCs.

I don't understand why people place so much important on League lore. I care about champion kits, and the way the interact inside the actual game.

GenoXx1 votes
  1. Ok, so why is there so much importance in the gameplay? It's a no brainer right? Ok so If they didn't think it was important in the first place then why the fuck would they even bother putting any kinds of bio for champions? The star aspect is gameplay right? Based on what ur saying, theres no reason to even bother putting bios or setting landmarks like Summoner's Rift. Or having Vo lines for Twisted Treeline. Because they aren't important.

This exactly the kind of mentality that Riot has. There should of been n reason the Journal of Justice was created. You know that little newspaper article that was on the client? If you care about champion kits and such, this section of the boards is not for you and this thread you shouldnt even have responded to

Nybx4life5 votes

Hmm...I find your statement contradictory, and thus, I have to say you're not as much of a lore nut as you claim to be (with all due respect).

I do understand that the game is based on 20-60 minute skirmishes. I do understand, from a gameplay perspective, about people's care for champion kits and the way people interact with the game with specific champions.

But I don't get how someone who says they love reading about the stories and characters of a game's lore can then say after they don't care about a game's lore.

Maybe you just don't care for the lore of League of Legends?

Krigjer1 votes

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Hmm...I find your statement contradictory, and thus, I have to say you're not as much of a lore nut as you claim to be (with all due respect).

I do understand that the game is based on 20-60 minute skirmishes. I do understand, from a gameplay perspective, about people's care for champion kits and the way people interact with the game with specific champions.

But I don't get how someone who says they love reading about the stories and characters of a game's lore can then say after they don't care about a game's lore.

Maybe you just don't care for the lore of League of Legends?

Why bother with the lore, honestly? Do you play a champion because you enjoy the lore? I don't. I play champions because I like their gameplay and kit. Reading about lore just makes me go 'huh. cool.' And nothing more.

Here's a thought: Reading the lore of other games contributes directly to my enjoyment of that game. In League, the story doesn't matter to me because of the above reason.

That said! You want GOOD lore? You want lore that isn't forced, and is meaningful? I don't doubt Riot is working on it. When LoL first started, it had a very basic concept, nothing more. It looks like they're having to rewrite a ton of it so it's coherent and not just duck-taped on.

You can't say you want decent lore, then turn around and complain about how long it's taking.

Nybx4life3 votes

Okay, let me break this down... You stated you're a "lore NUT", yet immediately state that you don't understand why people care about the lore in League of Legends. This post furthers that sentiment. So...I'm going to say it again, you're contradicting what you stated earlier, and I don't believe you're as much of a lore nut as you claim you are.

Okay, now that the horse has been beaten enough, I do enjoy certain champs, and I bought one because of it (Graves ). I will state now it wasn't my ONLY reason for buying that champ, but lore was one of the reasons.

Now, some games I skip over the lore. Even games that are reasonably lore-heavy (Bioshock, Oblivion, etc) I've skimmed through because I put that in the back seat compared to gameplay. Does that mean I ignore it entirely? Hell no! The games would be bland if the lore wasn't there to enrich the experience.

There's nothing wrong for enjoying champs for their gameplay and kit. There's nothing wrong for enjoying a game because it's fun.

But I will be damned if someone wants to have their lore cake and then slap me with it because they didn't like the flavor.

P.S: The general consensus about the lore retcon was that it was improperly planned. The community is mad, yes, but we all know there's nothing to do but wait on new developments. Unless you're pointing that statement at me, then...what the hell bro?

Krigjer1 votes

Such as someone asking about xerath's story from last year. But If some one were to ask "why isn't the promised lore here yet?" You don't even say anything to it. And If u we're to actually do it, you do it while u grit your teeth.

You can't say you want decent lore, then turn around and complain about how long it's taking.

Unless you're pointing that statement at me, then...what the hell bro?

You're also hung up on the fact that I claimed I was a lore nut. I do enjoy lore. I tend to get very absorbed in it. I only mentioned it so that you would know I DO enjoy lore (because personally, nothing is worse than someone that doesn't care about story telling you that story is not important. ) I don't actually care if you don't agree that I love lore, so I'm not sure why you keep bringing it up.

I'm done with this thread though. The basic message you're trying to send is that you want communication, and from other threads I've read, Story & Art has kind of been abandoned by officials?

Nybx4life2 votes

1.You're replying to multiple people at once it seems. The last statement is mine, the other two aren't.

  1. I'm only hung up on the fact about it because as you state it, you immediate go the opposite direction and begin to not give a single damn about the lore. It doesn't matter that you don't care about what I say about you, but I'd like you to be clear in your message: Either you love other game's lore, and you don't find this game sufficient in lore to get yourself involved, or you just don't give a damn about lore at all and you came to post said opinion just to get people to react to you. If it's the latter, congrats.

  2. There has been communication. Unfortunately, some of it wasn't in the direction people wanted, and others believe it's too little, too late. I've had threads replied to by officials, so it's not abandoned. Just the subject of the retcon is very sensitive.

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