The new champion

Bultz··1 votes·940 views

Not to sound mean, but isn't the whole sentient tree thing taken?

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Ralanr3 votes

Yeah it's weird. I don't know how they'll make him different from Maokai besides being a kind old grandfather tree while Maokai is your grumpy ass old war veteran who can still kick the ass of anyone who messes with his grandkids.

Sharjo3 votes

Well I mean in WoW we have trees like this:

http://media.blizzard.com/wow/media/wallpapers/fan-art/wallpaper24/wallpaper24-large.jpg

And more recently this:

http://media.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2015/november/VSNightmareAncient.jpg

Seeing a different side to the concept helps to embellish it and give a greater appreciation for what's there; Maokai and Ivern are both similar beings, but tread much different ground. I mean Yasuo and Master Yi both encompass the samurai archetype in their own ways, but are distinct from one another. This can work, and I'm glad Riot's revisiting some older themes with fresh ideas. I mean yordles are great in part because they've been taken in many different directions and they're wholly unique from one another. The Ascended are similar. If it can work for diminutive fuzzy folk, immortal warriors and samurai, I feel like they can make it work for trees.

BattleBoar3 votes

Like other have said we have a bunch of champions that share the same theme some how but they are diffident enough. I mean just look at the 4 ninjas we have.

I will be willing to place money on that the only thing they will share beside looks are 1. they both have a lot of cc and are best play as some sort of tank.

RisenDarkKnight2 votes

That's speciest. The whole "human" thing has been done over 60 times but you don't hear us sentient trees complaining, do you?

RcGjWO640w1 votes

I'm 100% sure Riot has already thought that they might seem too similar, so I'm really interested to see just how different they make him feeling from Maokai.

Meep Man1 votes

I thought bird champion was taken, but here we are

Bultz1 votes

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I thought bird champion was taken, but here we are

there is only one bird champion?

Sharjo5 votes

There's a cryophoenix, a man who transforms in to a demon bird, an anthropomorphic bird, a woman with a bird, and a girl aesthetically styled after a bird. So the bird thematic is shared between five champions.

Moonboy652 votes

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There's a cryophoenix, a man who transforms in to a demon bird, an anthropomorphic bird, a woman with a bird, and a girl aesthetically styled after a bird. So the bird thematic is shared between five champions.

Anivia, Azir, Udyr and Quinn

Kayle is not a bird, nor based on one, she's an angel

Sharjo3 votes

I was actually reffering to Anivia, Swain, Azir, Quinn and Taliyah, but thanks for reminding me of Udyr; forgot his phoenix thing.

Moonboy651 votes

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I was actually reffering to Anivia, Swain, Azir, Quinn and Taliyah, but thanks for reminding me of Udyr; forgot his phoenix thing.

oh mb [zombie-nunu-bummed]

GreenLore1 votes

Well but one is a phoenix,one is a warlock,one is a "ra"-expy-birdman and one is a falconer.

I can understand that the champ might step a bit too much into Maokais territory,I mean he even has a similar bodyshape(thin arms,huge hands and his head is in the middle of the torso),but I guess they'll be different in other aspects

Iwinatlife421 votes

Of course that is what we can see from this one shot who knows what his splash or model will actually look like.

Catastrop3 votes

Anivia Azir Quinn Swain Taliyah I think this proof that a specific element in a theme, can be reused with great success multiple times.

LXII1 votes

I was upset that it wasn't the art Brofresco showed in his video. The Radagast style forest wizard look was pretty cool. Not too crazy about another tree.

GaleWinUnleashed1 votes

Nah, he looks as though he's a smoother, harder type of wood, almost stone. Good thing we don't have a champion made of stone/wood. ...

Malphite

JackMcSnipeyz1 votes

We also have couple void monsters, and 3 fish champions.

Im glad it's not another human champion, they get stale pretty quickly, on the other hand monster and mythical champions can really show how creative the developers can get

DwarvenGiant1 votes

Meddler on the overlap thing with Maokai:

In terms of potential overlap with Maokai that was something that was also on our minds when developing Ivern. We made sure to regularly check that we were delivering fairly different gameplay, visual appearance and personality despite the thematic overlap as a result. Hopefully that comes through as intended, really curious to see what you folks think once he's revealed.

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