So...Is Ahri an Assimilator?
What happens to the poor souls that get their essences stolen by Ahri? If she's taking essences from others to complete her own being, wouldn't that make her an assimilator?
What happens to the poor souls that get their essences stolen by Ahri? If she's taking essences from others to complete her own being, wouldn't that make her an assimilator?
now that you mention it...
http://ddragon.leagueoflegends.com/cdn/img/champion/splash/Ahri_0.jpg
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/0/07/Assimilator.png
I can clearly see the resemblance
You require more Vespene Gas.... summoner.
do you think it's a coincidence her orb is blue, but then turns green when her passive is ready?
Where is that second image from?
starcraft, it's a building called the Protoss Assimilator, which serves as that faction's gas processing building :)
[{quoted}](name=Captain Aishi,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=d7cL7tfp,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2015-12-20T16:51:59.700+0000)
now that you mention it...
http://ddragon.leagueoflegends.com/cdn/img/champion/splash/Ahri_0.jpg
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/0/07/Assimilator.png
I can clearly see the resemblance
LOL YES
Yes. I've spent a lot of time with her and I can confirm she works like a plant.
What happens to the poor souls that get their essences stolen by Ahri?
Don't ask about the mystery meat in runeterra's school cafeterias.
Oh let's give Ahri a little buff! Whenever Ahri kills a champion, they cannot respawn until Ahri dies because their souls are still inside Ahri.
Of course, they would have to re-balance her by slightly reducing her attack speed and attack damage growth. Noobs might still complain, but come on, she has a lot of mana problems early on.
I am highly against that.
[{quoted}](name=Der Lindwurm,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=d7cL7tfp,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2015-12-20T17:39:19.347+0000)
Oh let's give Ahri a little buff! Whenever Ahri kills a champion, they cannot respawn until Ahri dies because their souls are still inside Ahri.
Of course, they would have to re-balance her by slightly reducing her attack speed and attack damage growth. Noobs might still complain, but come on, she has a lot of mana problems early on.
Seems balanced if you make it never.
The way some people drool over the character, I'd say Ahri is an ass simulator.
...
plznokillmyheadisallergictoflyingrocks
[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]
Well she's getting her conscience from somewhere.
Yeah, but it is still messed up regardless. If you know DBZ, then you know what an assimilator is. So In short, Ahri Absorbs humans to become more human. And on top of that, she's cocky about it. I'm starting to dislike her more.
Welcome to the club. Her in game character is a poor representation of her lore character. Surprisingly she is MORE human for putting herself above others. She has a major flaw, like humans always have in general.
She's a monster who is closer to human than some humans.
She's a monster who is closer to human than some humans.
Never thought about it like that but it's actually true. She says she only kills those "who have no use for their humanity" = bad guys, I guess that makes her kind of a vigilante?
It makes her somewhat psychotic because she believes she can judge who deserves humanity.
No that's being too harsh. She's a vigilante yes, but a selfish one.
In the end, humans only act according to their interests. Even those who help the old lady cross the street, etc., are doing it to feel happiness/gratification/recognition. The fact that her actions have a selfish side to them alone isn't enough to consider her psychotic. I know that if she were to live in a society people would think she's a monster, and rightly so, because she's a serial killer. Yet, I feel that in a way she's making the world a better place.
So does Elise "I will take them all, to a better place." But you have seen her methods right? Still makes her psychotic.
I can't tell if she genuinely believes her religion or is lying.
It's pretty much elise forcing herself to keep her end of the deal. Power for souls, the spider god demands.
Killing is never pretty. I don't think of Ahri as a saint or anything, she is by no means a good example on how to behave in a society, but she has the power to destroy everything and doesn't, instead choosing to "clean" the world. I think that's a bit admirable.
Really the question, "what is human?" Gets muddled when you add in other sentient races (because we as humans never had to deal with an equally or more advanced race. We have only ourselves for comparison. Hence why races in fiction tend to be counterparts of real world cultures sometimes. You could argue Neanderthals, but they didn't last long enough).
I know Ahri intends well with her actions (beyond the selfish reasons. She could kill the villagers, but she wants to befriend them) but violence only begets violence.
Good thing she lives in Ionia. She can seek beneficial spiritual guidance from someone like Karma.
Ahri is interesting though. She is an example of a supernatural being wanting to be human. This shows that the other side is not immune to jealousy or desire of what they aren't.
Normally spirits look at mortals and laugh. We are fools after all. But fools question, and we end up seeing things no one else thought to consider.
We're pretty insane like that.
I'm noticing she shares a lot of similarities with the serial killer Dexter. They both act as vigilantes, deceive people through fake emotions (in this case, pretending to love), realise that other people would see them as monsters if they knew the truth, and have a strong reason to keep killing, one that will always remain until they die. Man I really loved watching that show. Think I just found out why I main her.
It makes her somewhat psychotic because she believes she can judge who deserves humanity.
No that's being too harsh. She's a vigilante yes, but a selfish one.
Ok, i'll stop you right there.
When she was observing the Noxus soldiers, they attacked her first in which led her to retaliate against them. The basic moral response being self defense.
Also, nowhere has anyone even bothered to mentioned about her interest in the villagers and wanting to befriend them. The beginning of the lore states that she is fearful for them because they have no real defensive army since they are peaceful.
That is a indication that Ahri has a desire to protect them in which case she might have already done by dispatching the Noxus soldiers that were possibly on their way to that village.
What happens to the poor souls that get their essences stolen by Ahri?
I don't feel that bad for them considering how she steals the souls
you mean gravely injuring them then proceeds to do what she does? Yeah.
I meant in the lore
Her new lore states what i said.
In the old lore, whatever also this http://www.talesofvaloran.com/?p=86
That was never in the old lore either. It was just something people made up.
Even in her old lore it is never confirmed that ahri had actual sex with her victims. It is very possible that she just charmed them with her magic and then simply murdered them once they let their guard down/were at a place without witnesses.
They obviously aren't going to implicitly state it, I mean Graves can't even have a cigar, but that's kind of the general idea around the kind of legends Ahri was based on.
They just can't show it.
Your graves arguement makes little sense considering that Gangplank directly mentions graves cigars,meaning that its ok for them to mention that stuff as long as they don't show it ingame. "Can't light cigars on the bottom of the sea."
The fact that they can't show Graves' cigar was kind of the point, whether they talk about it or not it's still being censored to some degree. Also think about it as a practicality thing, Ahri lures someone back to her lair, she could just eat their soul, or she could get laid and then eat their soul. Maybe there were a few particularly unlucky victims who got caught when Ahri had a headache or was short on time but in the long run it's going to be a major time saver.
But if they can talk about graves cigar,why wouldn't they be able to talk about ahri actually getting into the bed with anyone?
You are implying that ahri even had any interest in having sex with the humans,but remember that she used her seductive powers before she started to actually have human emotions,so it is possibly that she wasn't sexually attracted to humans at that point and if she didn't have interest in sex at that time,then it would be easier for her to just kill the humans.
But if they can talk about graves cigar,why wouldn't they be able to talk about ahri actually getting into the bed with anyone?
For the same reason they show Gragas' nipples, there are different levels of censorship for everything, they can print the word skull in the lore somewhere but they can't show Karthus' face in the Chinese splash art. Graves lost his cigar because of some regulation about tobacco advertising. The game is supposed to be appropriate for as large an audience as possible, so they aren't going to come right out in the lore and talk about a champions sex life, that's how you get people petitioning to have your game banned, like what happened with Mass Effect, and that cut scene showed less than a sears catalog.
There are ways to write around that instead of "she charmed them and killed them".
Either way it was never confirmed that she actually does that,so all of this is pure speculation anyway.
Illaoi's lore states she laid with Gp. Just adding this in
Riot basically did for Miss Fortune what you say cant be done for Ahri. During the Lore event for harrowing they mentioned some of Miss Fortunes crew as being her "Lovers." There is no way to misinterpret what they mean by that since they basically gave Miss Fortune the same seductress theme they did for Ahri in the Harrowing lore.
Assimilators usually get the powers/personalities/whatever from what they absorb,but ahri only gets a very small part of the humanity(not necessarily in the sense of morality,but actually being human) from the persons.
So while one could argue that that would make her an assimilator on a very small scope,I'd say it still doesn't really fit her,because it is not like she actually absorbs something specific from her victims,because it doesn't seem like it makes any difference on wether she steals the souls of good or bad people(or any kind of people),while assimilators actually absorb something specific from their victims.
Something specific: Humanity
She gains power from taking soul essences, which would make her a lot like Thresh, who takes souls to strengthen himself.