So...Is Ahri an Assimilator?

GenoXx··6 votes·2,570 views

What happens to the poor souls that get their essences stolen by Ahri? If she's taking essences from others to complete her own being, wouldn't that make her an assimilator?

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SSJTribe7 votes

You require more Vespene Gas.... summoner.

Captain Aishi11 votes

do you think it's a coincidence her orb is blue, but then turns green when her passive is ready?

GenoXx1 votes

Where is that second image from?

Captain Aishi3 votes

starcraft, it's a building called the Protoss Assimilator, which serves as that faction's gas processing building :)

Deaeras2 votes

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now that you mention it...

http://ddragon.leagueoflegends.com/cdn/img/champion/splash/Ahri_0.jpg

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/0/07/Assimilator.png

I can clearly see the resemblance

LOL YES

Ionian8 votes

Yes. I've spent a lot of time with her and I can confirm she works like a plant.

Linna Excel6 votes

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What happens to the poor souls that get their essences stolen by Ahri?

Don't ask about the mystery meat in runeterra's school cafeterias.

Der Lindwurm6 votes

Oh let's give Ahri a little buff! Whenever Ahri kills a champion, they cannot respawn until Ahri dies because their souls are still inside Ahri.

Of course, they would have to re-balance her by slightly reducing her attack speed and attack damage growth. Noobs might still complain, but come on, she has a lot of mana problems early on.

GenoXx1 votes

I am highly against that.

Fasmodey1 votes

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Oh let's give Ahri a little buff! Whenever Ahri kills a champion, they cannot respawn until Ahri dies because their souls are still inside Ahri.

Of course, they would have to re-balance her by slightly reducing her attack speed and attack damage growth. Noobs might still complain, but come on, she has a lot of mana problems early on.

Seems balanced if you make it never.

Ice Weasel X3 votes

The way some people drool over the character, I'd say Ahri is an ass simulator.

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GenoXx1 votes

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

Còvfefe3 votes

I'd Milator her Ass

GenoXx1 votes

1+

Ralanr2 votes

Well she's getting her conscience from somewhere.

GenoXx1 votes

Yeah, but it is still messed up regardless. If you know DBZ, then you know what an assimilator is. So In short, Ahri Absorbs humans to become more human. And on top of that, she's cocky about it. I'm starting to dislike her more.

Ralanr4 votes

Welcome to the club. Her in game character is a poor representation of her lore character. Surprisingly she is MORE human for putting herself above others. She has a major flaw, like humans always have in general.

She's a monster who is closer to human than some humans.

Ionian1 votes

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She's a monster who is closer to human than some humans.

Never thought about it like that but it's actually true. She says she only kills those "who have no use for their humanity" = bad guys, I guess that makes her kind of a vigilante?

Ralanr2 votes

It makes her somewhat psychotic because she believes she can judge who deserves humanity.

No that's being too harsh. She's a vigilante yes, but a selfish one.

Ionian5 votes

In the end, humans only act according to their interests. Even those who help the old lady cross the street, etc., are doing it to feel happiness/gratification/recognition. The fact that her actions have a selfish side to them alone isn't enough to consider her psychotic. I know that if she were to live in a society people would think she's a monster, and rightly so, because she's a serial killer. Yet, I feel that in a way she's making the world a better place.

GenoXx1 votes

So does Elise "I will take them all, to a better place." But you have seen her methods right? Still makes her psychotic.

Ralanr1 votes

I can't tell if she genuinely believes her religion or is lying.

GenoXx1 votes

It's pretty much elise forcing herself to keep her end of the deal. Power for souls, the spider god demands.

Ionian2 votes

Killing is never pretty. I don't think of Ahri as a saint or anything, she is by no means a good example on how to behave in a society, but she has the power to destroy everything and doesn't, instead choosing to "clean" the world. I think that's a bit admirable.

Ralanr3 votes

Really the question, "what is human?" Gets muddled when you add in other sentient races (because we as humans never had to deal with an equally or more advanced race. We have only ourselves for comparison. Hence why races in fiction tend to be counterparts of real world cultures sometimes. You could argue Neanderthals, but they didn't last long enough).

I know Ahri intends well with her actions (beyond the selfish reasons. She could kill the villagers, but she wants to befriend them) but violence only begets violence.

Good thing she lives in Ionia. She can seek beneficial spiritual guidance from someone like Karma.

Ahri is interesting though. She is an example of a supernatural being wanting to be human. This shows that the other side is not immune to jealousy or desire of what they aren't.

Normally spirits look at mortals and laugh. We are fools after all. But fools question, and we end up seeing things no one else thought to consider.

We're pretty insane like that.

Ionian2 votes

I'm noticing she shares a lot of similarities with the serial killer Dexter. They both act as vigilantes, deceive people through fake emotions (in this case, pretending to love), realise that other people would see them as monsters if they knew the truth, and have a strong reason to keep killing, one that will always remain until they die. Man I really loved watching that show. Think I just found out why I main her.

FailedEXE1 votes

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It makes her somewhat psychotic because she believes she can judge who deserves humanity.

No that's being too harsh. She's a vigilante yes, but a selfish one.

Ok, i'll stop you right there.

When she was observing the Noxus soldiers, they attacked her first in which led her to retaliate against them. The basic moral response being self defense.

Also, nowhere has anyone even bothered to mentioned about her interest in the villagers and wanting to befriend them. The beginning of the lore states that she is fearful for them because they have no real defensive army since they are peaceful.

That is a indication that Ahri has a desire to protect them in which case she might have already done by dispatching the Noxus soldiers that were possibly on their way to that village.

Troll Armada2 votes

No.

This is an Assimilator:

http://i.imgur.com/MoTCzwB.jpg

Vesarixx1 votes

What happens to the poor souls that get their essences stolen by Ahri?

I don't feel that bad for them considering how she steals the souls

GenoXx4 votes

you mean gravely injuring them then proceeds to do what she does? Yeah.

Vesarixx1 votes

I meant in the lore

GenoXx1 votes

Her new lore states what i said.

Vesarixx1 votes

In the old lore, whatever also this http://www.talesofvaloran.com/?p=86

WalkingInACircle3 votes

That was never in the old lore either. It was just something people made up.

GreenLore4 votes

Even in her old lore it is never confirmed that ahri had actual sex with her victims. It is very possible that she just charmed them with her magic and then simply murdered them once they let their guard down/were at a place without witnesses.

Vesarixx4 votes

They obviously aren't going to implicitly state it, I mean Graves can't even have a cigar, but that's kind of the general idea around the kind of legends Ahri was based on.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kumiho

GreenLore1 votes

They just can't show it.

Your graves arguement makes little sense considering that Gangplank directly mentions graves cigars,meaning that its ok for them to mention that stuff as long as they don't show it ingame. "Can't light cigars on the bottom of the sea."

Vesarixx1 votes

The fact that they can't show Graves' cigar was kind of the point, whether they talk about it or not it's still being censored to some degree. Also think about it as a practicality thing, Ahri lures someone back to her lair, she could just eat their soul, or she could get laid and then eat their soul. Maybe there were a few particularly unlucky victims who got caught when Ahri had a headache or was short on time but in the long run it's going to be a major time saver.

GreenLore1 votes

But if they can talk about graves cigar,why wouldn't they be able to talk about ahri actually getting into the bed with anyone?

You are implying that ahri even had any interest in having sex with the humans,but remember that she used her seductive powers before she started to actually have human emotions,so it is possibly that she wasn't sexually attracted to humans at that point and if she didn't have interest in sex at that time,then it would be easier for her to just kill the humans.

Vesarixx1 votes

But if they can talk about graves cigar,why wouldn't they be able to talk about ahri actually getting into the bed with anyone?

For the same reason they show Gragas' nipples, there are different levels of censorship for everything, they can print the word skull in the lore somewhere but they can't show Karthus' face in the Chinese splash art. Graves lost his cigar because of some regulation about tobacco advertising. The game is supposed to be appropriate for as large an audience as possible, so they aren't going to come right out in the lore and talk about a champions sex life, that's how you get people petitioning to have your game banned, like what happened with Mass Effect, and that cut scene showed less than a sears catalog.

GreenLore1 votes

There are ways to write around that instead of "she charmed them and killed them".

Either way it was never confirmed that she actually does that,so all of this is pure speculation anyway.

GenoXx1 votes

Illaoi's lore states she laid with Gp. Just adding this in

YCitizenSnipsY1 votes

Riot basically did for Miss Fortune what you say cant be done for Ahri. During the Lore event for harrowing they mentioned some of Miss Fortunes crew as being her "Lovers." There is no way to misinterpret what they mean by that since they basically gave Miss Fortune the same seductress theme they did for Ahri in the Harrowing lore.

GreenLore1 votes

Assimilators usually get the powers/personalities/whatever from what they absorb,but ahri only gets a very small part of the humanity(not necessarily in the sense of morality,but actually being human) from the persons.

So while one could argue that that would make her an assimilator on a very small scope,I'd say it still doesn't really fit her,because it is not like she actually absorbs something specific from her victims,because it doesn't seem like it makes any difference on wether she steals the souls of good or bad people(or any kind of people),while assimilators actually absorb something specific from their victims.

GenoXx1 votes

Something specific: Humanity

Maple Crusader1 votes

She gains power from taking soul essences, which would make her a lot like Thresh, who takes souls to strengthen himself.

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