@riot: How much does Lore effect champs

thecowley··2 votes·2,431 views

Im still working through champion lore and info on Runeterra. But im wondering how much the story effects in game changes. Like items, champion abilities ect. Do yall create lore for new character concepts before or after a kit concept?

As for other players, do you care more about having a unique kit ect, or a champ having interesting story and place in the lore

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RiotRiotJaredan6 votes

Think of the story of the character as you would concept art for the Champ. Sometimes the kit might be in mind, or it might just be a role that the game needs, or a general idea to disrupt the game experience, or there's a genre or character type we want to explore. But the ideation process, the cauldron from which the new Champ (or Champ Update) is formed, is a very collaborative melding of ideas. The character's personality, motivations (the why of who they are), flow through the character's looks (the art design), the voice (VO script, direction, performance and audio magic), what they do (game design, the kit) and how they move (animation).

When it all comes together, each aspect should all inform each other to create a thematically cohesive, resonant experience in-game and out.

Fasmodey1 votes

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Think of the story of the character as you would concept art for the Champ. Sometimes the kit might be in mind, or it might just be a role that the game needs, or a general idea to disrupt the game experience, or there's a genre or character type we want to explore. But the ideation process, the cauldron from which the new Champ (or Champ Update) is formed, is a very collaborative melding of ideas. The character's personality, motivations (the why of who they are), flow through the character's looks (the art design), the voice (VO script, direction, performance and audio magic), what they do (game design, the kit) and how they move (animation).

When it all comes together, each aspect should all inform each other to create a thematically cohesive, resonant experience in-game and out.

I dont know why but I knew It was you before actually seeing your message, when I saw rioter comment sign on the thread.

Where are you? You havent answered ask fm questions for almost 4 months.

Sadness intensfies

Sharjo1 votes

Last I checked Jaredan took time off on account of spending a good two solid years working and wanting to spend time with his family.

RiotRiotJaredan4 votes

Partly that yeah. Oh, by the way... http://universe.leagueoflegends.com/en_US/ if you want to see what a bunch of fine folks have been working on.

We've listened, and we're working to get there.

Sharjo2 votes

I'm head deep in this right now GOD IT MAKES ME SO HAPPY.

Fasmodey1 votes

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Partly that yeah. Oh, by the way... http://universe.leagueoflegends.com/en_US/ if you want to see what a bunch of fine folks have been working on.

We've listened, and we're working to get there.

Oh boy, Demacia is beautiful af. I got Minas Tirith feels too.

What a beautiful work! Thank you.

LostFr0st1 votes

Thank the crew for the present^^ I know what I'll be sifting through tonight :)

Starlighte1 votes

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Partly that yeah. Oh, by the way... http://universe.leagueoflegends.com/en_US/ if you want to see what a bunch of fine folks have been working on.

We've listened, and we're working to get there.

Jaredan welcome back from your brief hiatus. Hopefully you are rested and feeling an improved sense of health. (How are you recovering from the past few years, I know it has been a struggle and up-hill battle, but keep at it and take the breaks you need, no point in working yourself back to being bed-ridden)

I'm happy this has finally bubbled to the surface, this has been a long time coming, and if we are being honest with each other it should have been planned and in production shortly after the retcon. If you get a chance, now that your back and since there has been so much radio silence, would you perhaps be willing to pick a time/date that you could create a thread and block off some time to hit the pavement so to speak with questions? I am sure a lot of us want to talk about cadence, direction of lore, and outstanding pain-points that still need addressing (Short-form bios being on that page is an easy one that I can throw out there as bait, Tahm Kench style.)

Seriously though, welcome back it is good to see you again. Let's talk, but let's do it in the right setting with the right expectations.

AKA: Jaredan, no more 4 AM threads while you should be resting! Block some time at work if you can, I know you've got a million threads of things going onto at once, but one community thread certainly won't break the bank right?

EROTIC RAID BOSS1 votes

This is really cool, just spent the last hour or so going through the different region pages and checking out some of the new stories.

I have one suggestion: you should add a tab at the top specifically for stories like bloodline, burning tides etc, and maybe the bios. Of course all that is on the site but having all those pages in one easy place would be nice

My other suggestion would be to get some visibility on this page into the new client somehow, permanently. such as a link in the champion's pages or something after the short bio. "explore more"

And actually one final suggestion: a tab for music. logins, or otherwise. you guys have a huge library of good music now

Chromatic Eagle1 votes

OK, this is cool, and I will spend a long time reading through everything, but it's a lot to take in, and I wish it was a bit easier to navigate. Could be me having to learn how to use it though.

RiotRiotJaredan2 votes

I've had a bit of a crazy 2016. Lots of things have been coming to fruition, which is awesome, and I needed a bit of a breather.

Linna Excel1 votes

Sometimes the kit might be in mind, or it might just be a role that the game needs, or a general idea to disrupt the game experience, or there's a genre or character type we want to explore.

So what's harder for you, bottom up or top down?

Victurn Up1 votes

*affect *affect *affect *affect *affect *affect *affect *affect *affect *affect

Do you realize "affect" & "effect" have absolutely DIFFERENT meanings??

thecowley2 votes

Yes, I am aware. But given the overall relaxed social atmosphere due to this being boards about a game; I just wasn't worried all that much

GreenLore1 votes

From what the rioters said,it pretty much goes by a case-by-case-basis how a champion concept starts.

Sometimes they start with a certain theme(Aurelions development started with the idea of making a chinese dragon),sometimes they start with a certain gameplay-idea(Tahm was made because they wanted a champ that can eat others),sometimes they start with a certain role in mind(taliyah was made because they wanted a classical mage) and sometimes with a certain artwork(Jinxs design was pretty much the first thing they made about her).

I think affects the gameplay more in terms of general feeling(for example braum got his W,because protecting others is pretty fitting for him),but thats generally it.

Elemental Lux1 votes

Just gonna mention Lux's lore how and it doesn't interact with her kit, the spell thief who steals magic. Oh and she can bend light to turn invisible. Maybe Rammus. his lore is on point to his kit too you know. There is more too but you get the idea. Only the new champs get good lore :'(

Linna Excel1 votes

As for other players, do you care more about having a unique kit ect, or a champ having interesting story and place in the lore

I guess I'm in the bitter vet area in that I expect riot to gut both the kits and the lore of the champs I like and then replace it with crap.

However as per your question I suppose I'd put a solid kit (doesn't have to be unique) and then aesthetics before lore. I don't trust the lore of champs because it is the most fluid aspect of them and is the easiest aspect of a champ for rito to gut.

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