I just want to keep an open dialog with the team in regards to her progression. She has been, in the past, a black sheep and kind of feels ignored. I remember that there was a primary artist that was assigned to her. Longwingy I think. Anyways, any update would be appreciated.
Oleandervine14 votesI hope they make her a Shadow Isles entity who isn't dead. So far there's only Elise but she doesn't even live there.
RiotIronStylus10 votesCurrently she's not. We had a few update concepts back in the day but she just doesn't have any sort of story direction or explanation of what the hell she is. Until we hammer that out we probably won't be doing anything with her until then.
I think there's some good ideas in the Shadow Isles ideas, and heck, I could see her playing into the Darkin thing if we ever build that out. There's a lot of options, so that's good. She's wide open in terms of actually making a character out of.
darkdill2 votesHmm, here's one thought.
Have you ever played or seen Skyrim's Dawnguard expansion? In it, one of the major characters is a vampire princess named Serana, who has a really... antagonistic relationship with her father, an elder vampire who wants to shroud the world of Tamriel in eternal night.
Do you think Evelynn could have a similar background, or would that be cliche? Or would it cause Bethesda to sue you?
kitcat3002 votesAlthough being a vampire, Serana has a more benevolent personality. I'm not sure that would fit into Evelynn's assassin for hire motif.
DynamiteGazelle6 votes{quoted} She's wide open in terms of actually making a character out of.
Then, do it.......?
Rinky Dinky1 votesNot his department.
Use your head.
I hope you don't think he is also in charge of balance changes and Memes
DynamiteGazelle2 votesI know for a fact that's all true.
ULTRAF0RCE1 votesHe is already working on a bunch of projects he probably has to at least finish Poppy before getting started on Eve.
DynamiteGazelle7 votesRight, but thing is they said they're working on her for more than 2 years now so it's just disheartening to hear nothings actually been done :(
ULTRAF0RCE1 votesPerhaps someone who left riot had been working on it or maybe its just one of those projects where they didnt get what they wanted so just let it die for a while and are going to try again soon. Remember when they do update her both visually and kit wise it will be the second time she probably will have had a major rework in how her stealth works.
Chromatic Eagle7 votesWhile disappointing, I appreciate the honesty. Is she potentially a Sion/close to him level of rework? Even her gameplay doesn't fit the role of the assassin, or vice versa.
Kelg1 votesCurrently she's not. We had a few update concepts back in the day but she just doesn't have any sort of story direction or explanation of what the hell she is. Until we hammer that out we probably won't be doing anything with her until then.
I think there's some good ideas in the Shadow Isles ideas, and heck, I could see her playing into the Darkin thing if we ever build that out. There's a lot of options, so that's good. She's wide open in terms of actually making a character out of.
She should be that mage girl who's master was killed by Mordekaiser(From his lore). That would at least give her some connection to the Shadow Isles.
http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Mordekaiser/Background
Morde and Eve also share the "Misery loves company." quote. So there's that too.
Karn Bishop7 votesI'm not even surprised that you said this, every team in riot neglects eve as a champion at least your honest about it thanks.
Linna Excel6 votesCurrently she's not. We had a few update concepts back in the day but she just doesn't have any sort of story direction or explanation of what the hell she is. Until we hammer that out we probably won't be doing anything with her until then.
I think there's some good ideas in the Shadow Isles ideas, and heck, I could see her playing into the Darkin thing if we ever build that out. There's a lot of options, so that's good. She's wide open in terms of actually making a character out of.
Boo. Boo.
Any chance you guys would hand over all your concepts to the community to see what they feel? I mean I really don't see evelyn working as a darkin. She doesn't have the look or feel of aatrox IMO.
I'm still of the opinion that you should just say screw it to her story/backstory and leave her as an enigma. I think being an unknown asset both fits her character (kit and storywise), doesn't force you into any one direction, puts the "who is she" question aside in a cleaver way, gives the league a proper character of mystery, and gives the players the option of telling their own story about her. Let her story be told in game.
If you want her to be X, tell it. You want her to be Y, tell it.
Look at it like this, she isn't an AP champ, an AD champ, or a tanky champ. You can make your own version of Evelynn in game. Her current lore is that she is a mystery. Run with that. Just give her a new model, a traditional skin (she'll need one) if you do much changes, and be done with her.
I think that while on most champs telling a story is a good thing, with Evelynn you are making a huge mistake by going about your normal way of doing things. This is why you are stuck with her. In terms of situational character design, you aren't working as this particular situation demands. She's not like the other champs you guys have done and I think it is to your and the character's benefit if you don't.
Mirage Night3 votesCurrently she's not. We had a few update concepts back in the day but she just doesn't have any sort of story direction or explanation of what the hell she is. Until we hammer that out we probably won't be doing anything with her until then.
I think there's some good ideas in the Shadow Isles ideas, and heck, I could see her playing into the Darkin thing if we ever build that out. There's a lot of options, so that's good. She's wide open in terms of actually making a character out of.
Well. that is sort of disappointing. She has been on the update radar for some time due to her rig preventing her from receiving any cool skins. To be honest she has been kind of been pushed under the rugged a lot and now this just makes it feel like she has no priority at all.
DynamiteGazelle2 votesShe's not a priority. Us Eve mains will just have to suffer together in silence :'(
Although, when they do update her they will probably do one of those 'make a new champion with the same name' type deals they did with sion and karma. So I guess we should just enjoy her while we have her, because when have you known a champion update that made the mains happy?
Xanini2 votesBasically, she's so everywhere, anything will work, which seems alright to me. A good enough explanation or lore will do her well and then you can basically create a totally new champ and call her Evelynn which actually alright with me since she is so unexplained. The only thing defined about her is her attitude of how she looks down on others and her looks. For Eve, looks can tell you a couple of things. Now while I can't confirm what inspired her, she has spears/needles and is a stealth or disguise professional. The blue and stealth I think possibly come from Mystique, X-Man character, but personality-wise she is defined differently. Eve likes to brag about winning, boast in fact and laugh at those she tricked/murdered. I read somewhere that a possible Lust, from Full Metal Alchemist, inspiration was used for Eve. Considering the random spears I think this is the case, similarly I never understood why Lust had the Ultimate Spear, but she did, however Lust died early so an explanation was unneeded and hopefully Eve is here to stay, unless Lucian Kills her. Just as Kalista isn't bound to work for the Shadow Isles, I think having Eve be free to terrorize makes more sense then her being bound to the will of others, like Yorick. I don't think Eve should be a specter, witch, zombie, or half monster/darkin (though its really interesting since like the shadow isles represent sins, darkins, only reference being Aatrox, focus on only one thing and they do it well for their whole, long life) I still believe no one should know how she came to be. She should be a torturer, think Esdeath from Akame ga Kill!, not in the literal sense but personality-wise. She's looking for someone to affect her, but no one can. She does this though torture, which might end up explaining the spikes or maybe new weapons. Being a torturer make her unwavering, strong and merciless. What does she torture? Since her origins can still be hazy she can punish people or tempt them with Lust, making people assume she's from the shadow Isles yet being the best torturer around makes her similar to a darkin. Lore-wise this is rich material, the king could have made a pact with a darkin bringing his country to ruin, or maybe a war with their race which is why there are so few darkins left, maybe the kingdom was a mixture of darkins and humans or maybe the king had a darkin wife and his daughter birth killed his wife and sent him into despair and he took it out on his daughter and the rest of the darkins. Anyone of these could make great lore if further developed, she could be a mix of three things making her completely unique. Just my thoughts though.
Gafugarion2 votesThis is kinda disappointing. I feel like you've ignored my main until she turned invisible =(
Dr Easter2 votesHello. Well, I'm happy with Evelynn as she is now tbh. She is, IMO, a nice alternative to Fiora. I build her in the same way and she works pretty well. You can also build her as you'd build an adc. The good thing is that she end up doing a good amount of hybrid damage even being built pure ad.
Keagn2 votesCurrently she's not. We had a few update concepts back in the day but she just doesn't have any sort of story direction or explanation of what the hell she is. Until we hammer that out we probably won't be doing anything with her until then.
I think there's some good ideas in the Shadow Isles ideas, and heck, I could see her playing into the Darkin thing if we ever build that out. There's a lot of options, so that's good. She's wide open in terms of actually making a character out of.
Allow me to suggest something, if you would:
When Thresh stole Senna's soul, a body would be left behind. Lucian would have been rather upset, to say the least, and attempt to chase down his wife's killer (Thresh), leaving the body behind. Humor me, and lets say that a certain Gravedigger 
finds the body, and as is his job, prepares it for the afterlife of un-death. Now the body itself hasn't suffered any real wounds, it's perfectly intact, just missing a soul, an occupant per say. Now, certainly just about any spirit could enter this body, but there's no fun in that. So what I am suggesting is that The Shadow Isles, in all its strangeness, actually does what the Ruined King's intention was, which as I understand it, was to break down the barrier between life and death, but in this sense, couldn't life still emerge? Couldn't an empty vessel be exactly what was needed to give life to something entirely new? Or perhaps if not new, something old, perhaps what The Ruined King intended, to bring back someone he lost? His bride perhaps? (
"The night is my veil.")
A soul without a body, a body without a soul, a perfect match one might say. The Ruined King might not have been around to see it come to be, but allow him this for all the pain he inflicted. Allow him his goal.
Kanzerman2 votesEvelynn is dangerous. She's quick, she's lethal - though nobody seems to concur on how she actually kills her prey. Evelynn is a shadow, a stalker, and everyone knows you can't see her coming, but you can feel the pressure of her lurking presence. The blue-skinned demon is a temptress, a vampire which drags the careless in and feeds off their life, rending them in a (mercifully?) quick agony.
Nobody knows where Evelynn came from, but most have heard of where she dwells: the Shadow Isles. If her reputation was not enough for itself, anyone who was curious still is swayed away in the certainty that nothing good has ever spawned in those darkened lands. And yet every rumor claims firmly that she is not one of the dead: her flesh too supple, her presence too warm, her scent too inviting, her laugh as vivid as it is chilling when she vanishes in the shadows.
Just like the terrible dread that settles in your gut when you see the Dark Mists on Harrowing, the story of the Widowmaker is one more often whispered than told, nervously disregarded than thoughtfully chronicled. Yet, those who are wise mark those rumors well, always trying to track her down and figure out a pattern behind her appearances, if only in an attempt to never stumble upon her.
Whoever she is and whatever it is she wants, Evelynn is silent, she's dangerous, and most terrifying: she likes it.
TheRatsInTheWall2 votesThank you for the update. It's sad, but it makes some sense.
There has been a lot of player discussion of what we'd like Eve to be. I imagine that you could effectively outsource Eve to the community. If you officially sanctioned a community design project, you'd probably get some solid results. Even a "we'll read what you make, but no promises" would get the community going in a big way. You wouldn't even have to modify the boards; we can use the pole feature to hammer out most directional challenges. If it went well, you might make Eve into one of the most well loved champions in LoL because she would truly belong to her mains.
Please, dear IronStylus, at least test the water with the higher-ups and other teams. You have no idea what a new Eve would mean to me.
Skia Asteri1 votesCurrently she's not. We had a few update concepts back in the day but she just doesn't have any sort of story direction or explanation of what the hell she is. Until we hammer that out we probably won't be doing anything with her until then.
I think there's some good ideas in the Shadow Isles ideas, and heck, I could see her playing into the Darkin thing if we ever build that out. There's a lot of options, so that's good. She's wide open in terms of actually making a character out of.
Perhaps the fact that it is taking so long to nail down a back story for her means that is the wrong approach, and the back story should come later?
Ultîma1 votesCurrently she's not. We had a few update concepts back in the day but she just doesn't have any sort of story direction or explanation of what the hell she is. Until we hammer that out we probably won't be doing anything with her until then.
I think there's some good ideas in the Shadow Isles ideas, and heck, I could see her playing into the Darkin thing if we ever build that out. There's a lot of options, so that's good. She's wide open in terms of actually making a character out of.
IronStylus, shouldn't there be someone or a team of people dedicated to ironing out the story details of outdated champions such as Taric, Eve, Skarner, Fiddlesticks, Jax, e.t.c. to ensure that the transition for a visual (or total) rework isn't stalled due to a lack of direction? Eve among others has been on the back-burner for years. Don't you think that the issue regarding her origin, story, and theme should be taken care of as a priority? It's really unfortunate from our perspective that dozens of characters are not given any due attention because of a lack of creativity when bazillions of ideas are constantly spit-balled here on the forum. Whatever happened to all the talk about - well - everyone?
DynamiteGazelle9 votesI think it's pretty obvious at this point that Eve is not a priority for Riot. Far from it. She spent 4 years waiting for a skin just to get an extremely plain 750 skin, and after waiting 2 and a half years for any news of her already confirmed redesign, we just got word that literally nothing has been or is being done.
Nobody at Riot mains Evelynn, I can tell you that much..
Oleandervine3 votesAt least visually. A ratio boost on her spells should fix the rest.
Mirage Night2 votesAt least visually. A ratio boost on her spells should fix the rest.
To be honest. If they are changing her theme, everything is going to be touched.
Gunpoint3 votesThey should remove her... tassles, and give her less of a troll hairstyle. Mabye clothes.
2nd Fiddle2 votesIf it looked less like ribbons and more like it was torn up clothes. I think that would be enough.
DynamiteGazelle3 votesSince she has no weapons, the tassles are what give her her silhouette. They're pretty necessary from a design standpoint.
ftftfftftftf3 votesI remember back in the day when she was so terror to play against, now shes main pick in nemesis draft l o l.
Mirage Night3 votesAt this point I think this should be a community project considering we are the only ones who seem to care of actually pointing pen to paper in regards to her concepts.
Slushi Simcambi2 votesPlus, you know, fixing her identity problems.
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Plus, you know, fixing her identity problems.
I hope it is something cohesive
Definitely need an identity all around
Dangerous Man1 votesWTH "Gameplay - bruiser/tank" You must be playing her wrong because to me she's an extremely mobile squishy champ that can just kill somebody in 5 seconds.
darkdill2 votesProblem with that style: Impossible to get working against any good team. She also can't do burst anymore since she lost DFG.
Dangerous Man1 votesLol, I get 200 AP and still amazing ... mostly :)
Go AD. Double proc Ruined King is only a click away. ;D
Kanzerman2 votesBoRK + Wit's End + Devourer and you're all set.
Kaipop4 votesProblem with that style: Impossible to get working against any good team. She also can't do burst anymore since she lost DFG.
She never needed DFG. Her main burst spell, E was changed to physical damage a long time ago so she couldn't abuse DFG. People thought this meant she couldn't be ap burst anymore, but after they recently changed it so E applies on hit effects (Lich Bane) she is very strong and bursty late game. I still think she needs a gameplay update to make her more of an assassin though.
igetleid2 voteseve is a very versatile champ and 5 seconds? only if you build ap only. but if people tank (armor, mr) an ult is necessary as well.
Dangerous Man1 votesWould you like a build guide sir?
Saint Archer2 votesidk i can wreck shop with eve, i would like to see a buff, it's really not necessary.
Moonglow Nami2 votesthere are so many other locations on valoran than shadow isles tho, we have pleeeeenty of shadow isles champs. time for some of the lesser recognized places to get a little attention! (darkin is one option as mention, voodoo lands?? plague jungle??) explore!
DynamiteGazelle1 votes100% agree. Shadow Isles is so played out. Maybe she's so terrifying that people think she's from the shadow isles, but she really isn't
Aamano1 votesAll of the bumps
Mirage Night1 votesIs there anyone who is dedicated to this champion? I thought Lonewingy was the artist for her. Is there no one on the narrative team assisting her with this?
