New Urgot now represents death better than Kindred

RlP K0BE·Jul 13, 2017·2 votes·861 views

After seeing the new Urgot I thought about how cool and scary he looked. Now when I picture Kindred they seem more like mythical creatures than gods of death.

Then there is the whole duo champ problem. Kindred was the first "2 entities in one" champion so it makes sense that they aren't as polished as newer champs like Kayn or maybe even the Rakan/Xayah duo but most can agree that Kindred consists of 90% Lamb and 10% wolf. If Kindred ever get a VGU or anything I would still like them to be separate beings as I enjoy the dialogue between them very much.

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RalanrJul 13, 20176 votes

So...why does Urgot represent death better?

Eternal791Jul 13, 20176 votes

Urgot more represents chaos and suffering imo.

TormentulaJul 13, 20175 votes

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Kindred was the first "2 entities in one" champion

Quinn Sejuani Nunu

I'm sorry, I understand that riot's character uniqueness was the concept of "two in one" but on paper that has failed in the gameplay and character regard. Wolf and lamb are the only sentient duo?

FlameHalbrdOkidoJul 14, 20171 votes

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I'm sorry, I understand that riot's character uniqueness was the concept of "two in one" but on paper that has failed in the gameplay and character regard. Wolf and lamb are the only sentient duo?

yes and no. So Quinn, Sej, Nunu, and don't forget Kled are mounts/animal-owner pair up concepts. They are very different from Kindred because Kindred are supposed to be equals and compliment each other. In character regard I think they are ALL pretty close to a success. But interms of gameplay I think that Sej partially fails and Kindred is a more of a fail in how they work together or how Riot has conveyed their teamwork.

I am sure all of use would have liked the ability to chase down a target with Wolf, theres just not enough of him in the kit. I think E is the ability that failed the most and has the most potential.

I feel like 's Mounting Dread isn't really Mounting-y or Dread-y enough yet. Its cause you also never really get to see Wolf chase anyone down.

I feel like after slowing them every AA within x sec of each other should increase the duration that AA can be shot within (1=4sec, 2=5sec,...). And directing wolf should be activated via recast,

so after attacking 10 timees, and the target tries to run, you can recast Mounting Dread and watch Wolf chase them down, or you can control Wolfs movments. It will so much more satifying because you can watch the target get more nvervous as their HP is whittled down meanig Wolf will deal more dmg and when they run, Wolf will be on to them, no matter how far they go.

tooltip edit ACTIVE: Lamb cripples the target unit, slowing them by 50% for 1 second. If Lamb manages to attack the target in the next 4 seconds the duration increases by 1 second for each attack. Reacst: recasting within the extended duration directs Wolf to pounce on them, dealing bonus physical damage, capped at 300 against monsters.

Look at the E's passive on the wiki:

thoughts?

TormentulaJul 14, 20173 votes

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yes and no. So Quinn, Sej, Nunu, and don't forget Kled are mounts/animal-owner pair up concepts. They are very different from Kindred because Kindred are supposed to be equals and compliment each other.

I didn't mention kled because he was post kindred (kayn and rhaast could be included too).

But I see them equally aside from sej. Quinn was once Quinn and Valor with transformations but they clipped valor and made quinn the main character instead of duos like kindred. Nunu and Willump (spell check?) both express themselves to each other and in gameplay willump does most of the work while nunu does most of the communicating and character development.

I will say they certainly don't "yingyang" as perfectly as lamb and wolf because of how they both have character quotes, a binding story (forced to be to together practically rather than just a bond or partnership like the others) and the fact their design was to make them a duo. I just don't agree that they were the first original or unique duos we've had to the league roster unless you really stretch it like them being the first duo with both of them speaking to each other.

Ebonmaw DragonJul 14, 20174 votes

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Now when I picture Kindred they seem more like mythical creatures than gods of death.

Well.... we could say that gods of death ARE mythical creatures.

The Leo CatJul 14, 20171 votes

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After seeing the new Urgot I thought about how cool and scary he looked. Now when I picture Kindred they seem more like mythical creatures than gods of death.

Then there is the whole duo champ problem. Kindred was the first "2 entities in one" champion so it makes sense that they aren't as polished as newer champs like Kayn or maybe even the Rakan/Xayah duo but most can agree that Kindred consists of 90% Lamb and 10% wolf. If Kindred ever get a VGU or anything I would still like them to be separate beings as I enjoy the dialogue between them very much.

Well... the blog post showing the new champion selection pool only has a portrait of Wolf, and not lamb. So he's getting his moment in the spot light.