Dear Riot: LGBT Champions

Omnem Occido·12/21/2015, 9:47:22 AM·6 votes·4,022 views

I know this has been rehashed a near infinite number of times, so I'll be brief: are there any LGBT champions in League? If there are, why have you elected to keep their sexuality a mystery when cisgendered, heterosexual couples are not only dating (Ez, Lux), but also have been/are currently married (Lucian & Senna, Ashe & Tryndamere)? Are there societies that are open to LGBT people, or are some cultures in Runeterra still backwards?

58 Comments

NahDogSolRahn12/21/2015, 12:08:11 PM14 votes

Look, I'm all for the gays, hermaphrodites, and those who perform drag, BUT when when you term things such as heterosexuality, being the gender that comes with what's between your legs, and average marage as "backwards", you get annoying and you get hate. You are the reason people think that the LGBT community are bullies.

AdanYEva12/21/2015, 11:21:26 AM14 votes

go to reddit to cry about your insecurity issues

Maximum Morde12/21/2015, 12:09:34 PM10 votes

Who cares? It's a game where a little midget throws a flaming bear down your throat.

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Omnem Occido12/21/2015, 9:45:33 PM4 votes

So much hate. Look, I understand that it's not important to the gameplay, but with the exception of the "Side Quests" that occasionally pop up in game because two people just happened to pick Kha and Rengar or Ashe and Lissandra, etc., the lore is entirely unnecessary to the game. I mean, we don't even have a why for the League anymore. It's just a bunch of odd characters of importance fighting on 1 of 4 maps we assume exist on the same plane of being. The lore doesn't matter to the gameplay, but fleshing out the identities of the champions adds a certain amount of connection to them. If sexuality has nothing to do with any of their lore because homosexuality and transgender are as commonplace as heterosexuality, then that's fine, but in my opinion the lack of personal sexuality with these characters makes them seem like they are single-minded fighters who kill stuff, eat, and then sleep. I understand that many of them are ambitious people with far ranging goals, but the lack of love in their lives makes it seem like they are all asexual, which is fine if some are but having all of them be asexual seems unlikely at best. All I want is to have a champion that speaks to me, someone who has romantic hopes and dreams, someone who goes off with family weighing in his or her heart, who has self-doubt and angst about their lives and lives of those whom they care for. The lore in League has become bland. The champions are a whitewash of characters with slightly different personalities: the power seeking archetype, the revenge seeking archetype, the risen dead archetype, the voracious predator archetype, the veteran archetype, and the justice seeking archetype. In those 6 categories, I can simply put all of the characters, with no outliers. Maybe sexuality is not the best of characteristics to start differentiating characters and giving them seperate personalities, but, honestly, I haven't heard any other ideas from Riot.

Ralanr12/21/2015, 5:43:53 PM4 votes

I wasn't aware a champion's sexuality was so important to their gameplay.

But if I had to speculate, I'd say Piltover and Zuan don't give two shits about who you sleep with. As long as you love SCIENCE then I think you're good.

VictoryDance9612/21/2015, 10:08:01 AM3 votes

The relationship thing is really just for boards... there are technically no "official" things going on between champions... you are just reading too many fanfictions!

Palmeiras SerieB12/23/2015, 5:12:34 PM2 votes

And what it adds to the game?

Unward4912/21/2015, 9:56:33 AM2 votes

Pretty sure Cait/Vi is a thing.

QuantumPanther12/22/2015, 6:19:07 PM2 votes

First of all, Senna isn't a champion...she's a plot device that is supposed to be Lucian's driving force because they were MARRIED AND IN LOVE!! If Lucian had had a husband that he lost instead of a wife, it wouldn't make a difference. And I'm fairly certain that the Taric/Ezreal thing is at the very least fanon, which means that the fans believe it's a thing, even if it's not confirmed by Riot. In addition to all of this, forcing a sexuality onto people is counter to the LGBTQ+ community anyways, since we are purported to value everyone's respective identities. So to force a champion to be queer just for the sake of being queer goes against everything that we are supposed to be standing for, namely, the right of people to choose their own identities.

GreenLore12/21/2015, 4:02:59 PM2 votes

As far as i know the problem is that LoL is played in a lot of countries and some of these are rather homophobic,so they can't include a character with that without risking getting their game banned in these countries or having to rewrite the sexuality of the character for these countries,which would create canon-problems when looking at the character.

Also while there are a few characters who are known to be attracted to the opposite sex,its not like there are really that many(at least not if you look at the champion roster as a whole) and even then its technically still possible that these characters are bisexual.

Doctor Jarvis12/23/2015, 5:16:54 PM2 votes

Well, I mean I ALWAYS ship Vi and Caitlyn, but I imagine the reason there aren't LGBT champs is more because relationships are rarely acknowledged in League. Champions have a lot on their minds, and no matter how much Caitlyn's luscious bosom may be calling to Vi, she knows Caitlyn is too involved with her job to go with Vi out to the point and...Im sorry what was I talking about?

ModKnightsKemplar12/21/2015, 9:53:39 PM2 votes

They rarely show sexuality of champs, outside of a few allusions to relationships/crushes. It goes both ways.

Maple Crusader12/26/2015, 6:47:13 AM1 votes

Are you trying to stir up a shitstorm?

DREADN0UGHT12/21/2015, 9:59:28 PM1 votes

Taric Ezreal RekSai Illaoi

Akenero12/21/2015, 11:37:47 PM1 votes

Well, here's what's confirmed from riot's journal of justice( blitzcrank fledgling comparability services)

Garen X Katarina is the perfect pair As are Tryndamere X Ashe Janna and Nidalee also dated the same man(caused him to be mauled by nid)

Taric is hinted at being homosexual after rework though(as in obvious but not said) MANY other champs are heterosexual according to the old lore, which is stated

Omnem Occido12/22/2015, 6:35:43 PM1 votes

Sorry, just realized, Bard is asexual. Rioters confirmed it is a sex-less entity.

shyv12/23/2015, 6:20:09 AM1 votes

Lol I'm shocked this has so many downvotes. /s

For future reference don't talk about any lgbt stuff on the boards or in game. Straight people think that wanting a gay champion is a personal attack.

Strawberrycocoa12/23/2015, 5:12:12 PM1 votes

Can't tell if genuine question or baiting for trolls.

Strawberrycocoa12/23/2015, 5:50:48 PM1 votes

Had another thought to add. I'm simply not sure if there is a way, with the limited options for in-game delivery of backstory, to make a champion express a sexual preference without it feeling forced or cringey.

That goes both ways, for the record. Generic Sexy/Flirty behavior is built onto each champion via the /flirt emote, but few of them express specifics on gender. I think making a gay guy gush over someone's biceps would be equally as cringey as a straight girl drooling over the same muscley hunk. Same with lesbians and straight guys, openly lusting after tits would get old quickly.

Plus, if you put gender specifics into their flirt emotes, it removes the player's options to put there own self into the character. Yeah some of the characters are canonically straight, or close enough to it, but most are unstated or ambiguous. I can /flirt with Ahri towards Braum or towards Tristana and it says the same thing.

It's the player's directive to play their Champion gay or straight if they so choose, and I think THAT should be the default. Gender neutrality leaves the most windows open for player expression.

Krigjer12/24/2015, 2:13:52 PM1 votes

Do you want social equality as a member of the LGBT community? If the answer is yes, stop trying to make your sexuality the only part of who you are.