Syndra needs to be a part of an event

Omnem Occido··26 votes·2,525 views

In terms of champion design, Syndra has been, in my opinion, one of the greatest, most sound designs ever made by Riot. She is one of the best definitions of balanced, receiving only a few buffs and nerfs since her release, all the while never having a too dominating streak or a weak streak. Her core gameplay is sound, albeit requiring some serious skill to master, her mechanics are both difficult and intuitive, allowing simple practice for people to begin to master her, but not so simple that people master her in a day or even a week's time. That being said, I feel as though she has been one of the least used and recognized champions. Her role as "The Dark Sovereign" is very unclear, as she doesn't really have that clear-cut rival or that overarching mission she strives towards. From her lore, she seems content to just chill in her floating castle, and she doesn't care what happens, so long as no one tries to put limitations on her. Not a very "Dark" character design. I would love to see her personality in an event. Maybe a retelling of the Noxian Invasion of Ionia, where she plays a dubious role as a traitor to the Ionian cause, as the Noxian principle of "Might makes Right" seems to be a perfect match for her background. Just something more than what exists right now. I know I should be happy that she has SOOOOO much more lore than some characters (Ok, Rammus), but I still think that she is too cool of a character to not do something with her.

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Sharjo8 votes

This might sound weird, but I kinda wanna see Syndra beaten to a pulp by someone. I feel like she needs a kick in the shins for all her cockiness. But then again I might just like seeing characters with a cocky streak getting knocked down a peg. Or two. Or ten.

GenoXx9 votes

I could say the same for Sarah Fortune...but Syndra's case is less deserved... i mean ur own country tried to take way ur gift...i sympathize with syndra

Ralanr10 votes

My sympathy ends when she killed her master.

Was he a dick? Possibly. Really he could have been using a teaching style that just didn't fit with Syndra's learning style (like how some people learn by doing and some by observing).

She needs to learn humility, and I think Karma or Illaoi might be the best teachers.

Can we just have Karma be an important focus in Ionia? She seems like she could fit the teacher/sage archetype well.

GenoXx3 votes

How so? Her master deceived her from the beginning. So I'd say that her murdering him was sorta justified. Built up rage from the village leaders and him, it seems to makes sense to me. That was a form of humility. She thought she was in a school, but it was really a prison so they wouldnt have to deal with her no more in her village. And Karma is an elder of Ionia now yes? I believe syndra is targeting her :)

Ralanr6 votes

Murder is never justified.

Narasimha1 votes

Just to jump in

You would make a horrible Sith.

That is all.

Sharjo2 votes

Sith and Jedi both suck.

THERE I SAID IT.

Ralanr1 votes

Thank you!

They both represent extremes! Why is there no neutral point in the force? You know, where you're most likely to find a balance.

Fasmodey1 votes

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Thank you!

They both represent extremes! Why is there no neutral point in the force? You know, where you're most likely to find a balance.

Darth Vader became one of them. He lived all of both extreme sides then become a grey jedi imo.

Melledoneus2 votes

Sion "BUT I'M NOT MURDERING PEOPLE, I'M SLAUGHTERING THEM. IT'S DIFFEREEEEEEENT!"

Ralanr4 votes

On the serious side: Sion doesn't and never has justified his actions. He enjoys killing people.

On the fun side: Sion: COWAAAAAARDSSSSS!!!!!! Ults away.

Captain Aishi1 votes

Katarina Violence solves everything!

:P

Beyond Legends1 votes

I do believe that Syndra master probably had the best intention about keeping her power down, I mean giving a arrogant child with the ability to nuke a city is never a good idea. Was Syndra in the wrong yes, was her master right in treating her that way no. But that what makes a story great, the moral grayness of it all. Also I believe that Syndra is a great story of the theme of order and freedom.

Ralanr1 votes

Her story isn't bad. I just don't see her in a positive light as others. She seems like a spoiled child who knows only power.

I'm not wrong actually. Everything in her life has been about her power, whether as a threat to others or a threat to her freedom.

She needed a better teacher.

Beyond Legends1 votes

well unfortunately the internet work in absolutes. Either their the anti christ or jesus. Personally I'm think that she is brat and need to be controlled before she kill lot more people. And Ionia needs to learn child psychology.

Ralanr1 votes

Personally I think Karma should take up teaching, starting with Syndra.

ModAcademy Kayn1 votes

She lifted an entire chunk of earth out of the ground, along with a Castle/Whatever they're called. I don't think she'd be the one being beat to a pulp.

Sharjo1 votes

Depends on who you ask. There's plenty of folks in League with god-like power that far exceed what Syndra's capable of right now. All Syndra does is force things to work. Some things can't be forced, and aren't so happy when folks think they can be forced.

Fasmodey1 votes

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Depends on who you ask. There's plenty of folks in League with god-like power that far exceed what Syndra's capable of right now. All Syndra does is force things to work. Some things can't be forced, and aren't so happy when folks think they can be forced.

Number of god-like power champions compare to Syndra is really low. Bard, Kindred, All Ascendeds and may be Tahm Kench. (The thing is, all of them are immortal, deity beings). Everybody else expect those are probably weaker than Syndra. Syndra is the most powerful human of LoL. She is overpowered as fuck compare to any human.

Dochasach5 votes

SYNDRA IS BAE

ModAttysu The Poro4 votes

Agreed 100%, pls Rito.

IcyPepper3 votes

I want to see a lore event with Syndra and Zed.

And it ends with some ooey gooey lovey dovey... violence. And romance. Romantic violence. I could totally see them doing that.

edit: And I'm not talking about the comic...

Núll9 votes

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Ralanr5 votes

It's a cute comic, but yes it's just fan fiction.

IcyPepper1 votes

I don't see why people are assuming I was talking about it, though...

:/

I mean, Thresh and Ahri wouldn't work for so many reasons. Many characters were OOC. I just like Zed and Syndra because they're already affiliated, and I can at least see on a pragmatic level that they would possibly try to conceive a powerful dark heir.

KnKitsune4 votes

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That was just one comic. And it doesn't fit either of their personalities, really.

But she IS friends with Zed .

Overlord Forte1 votes

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But she IS friends with Zed .

Friends is a poor category name they chose to encompass a wide range of ideals. That Jarvan and Swain are rivals does not mean they go for drinks at the bar later.

'Alliance of Convenience' describes their friendship the best for Syndra and Zed.

Narasimha1 votes

And Tahm is rivals with all the Yordles (except Veigar).

And I highly doubt he even knows most of them personally.

Captain Aishi1 votes

they used to be classified as 'allies' instead of friends though (seems to have changed recently on the website so who knows, maybe some lore in that regard IS coming)

IcyPepper1 votes

Romance doesn't fit their personalities? You find love in the most unexpected of people, you know. Even evil has their loved ones.

And who says I'm going off one comic? That's, well, that's an assumption right there. I mentioned nothing about any comic at all, I just mentioned two champions I could see hitting it off in the right circumstances. And if your second sentence is based on their actions in the comic (where they are pretty OOC), then again you based it off an assumption because that is not what I'm talking about whatsoever.

And they're listed as allies, so it wouldn't be completely out of nowhere.

Fasmodey1 votes

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Romance doesn't fit their personalities? You find love in the most unexpected of people, you know. Even evil has their loved ones.

And who says I'm going off one comic? That's, well, that's an assumption right there. I mentioned nothing about any comic at all, I just mentioned two champions I could see hitting it off in the right circumstances. And if your second sentence is based on their actions in the comic (where they are pretty OOC), then again you based it off an assumption because that is not what I'm talking about whatsoever.

And they're listed as allies, so it wouldn't be completely out of nowhere.

Example: Joker and Harlequin.

IcyPepper1 votes

That's a good example.

Honestly, what I want and what's realistic are two different things, I admit. I'd love a lovey dovey romance where they both go on a rampage or something, but it'd probably be messed up like that couple up there.

It'd either be political, diabolical, or some other kind of messed up. Or maybe they could have a healthy relationship despite their alignment, who knows?

ModAcademy Kayn1 votes

Technically, two comics atm. He/She made a sequel.

Razorex2 votes

Ironicly she was the weakest champion in the history of league, having the lowest winrate at her release. I just want a cinematic where she kicks ass honestly, nothing more.

Rico Nasty1 votes

Karma and Syndra are enemies tho But I agree she needs some scaling or damage buffs or something.. definitely a new passive.. regardless, I feel so weak during midgame cus I just can't get enough AP

Omnem Occido1 votes

Build Tear of the Goddess into Seraph's Embrace. The 1000 mana greatly helps with her tendency to burn through mana and the 150 AP should be good enough to get you all the power you need.

CasterGilgamesh1 votes

i already do that its very helpful i build item 1082 at the start for the extra pot power and mana from poke plus i get mana runes

Omnem Occido1 votes

Mana runes, ey? Is that your glyphs? Because I prefer the CDR glyphs. How much starting mana do you have with that build?

CasterGilgamesh2 votes

9 AP glifs top tier = +11 ap 9 Armor seals Top tier = +9.0 armor 3 mana Quints = +37.5 each 9 mana marks = +5.91 total mana from runes = +166 plus another 100 mana at the start from item 1082 is a great start for a mage then to solve the cdr problem i build item 3174 item 3165 so im maxed cdr plus i take the bonus cdr mastery giving me +5% cdr above the cdr cap seems to work well so far but for ap assassins like leblanc and kat i think ill stick to +30 armor and some ap for safety

Omnem Occido1 votes

Hmm, interesting. I guess my only qualm about that build is that you are sacrificing 2 slots for lower AP CDR items instead of building items like Zhonya's Hourglass, Void Staff, or Luden's Echo.

CasterGilgamesh1 votes

note to self syndra VS talon doesnt end well for me.....

Captain Aishi1 votes

against talon I recommend going triple doran's ring into rylai's crystal scepter (stacking on health just to make sure he can't burst you down lowers the chances of him snowballing early, and that allows you to scale better than him in fights once you have zhonyas on top of that)

ModAcademy Kayn1 votes

What do you do for Cdr? Just Cdr runes? Does Syndra really need Cdr?

Omnem Occido1 votes

Flat CDR Quints and Glyphs, Hybrid Pen Marks, Flat Armor Seals. 12/18/0 masteries, Thunderlord's Decree Keystone.

Omnem Occido1 votes

Also, against AD mids, go cloth armor and pots, against AP, go Doran's and pots.

Universal Boop2 votes

If you wanna hit those lethal 7 Orb ultimates yeah cdr is pretty crucial.

Omnem Occido1 votes

Overrated. The cost of getting full CDR is significantly reduces her AP potential, sacrificing a Luden's Echo or a Void Staff for a Morellonomicon is just too much damage being thrown away. You play the juggling game for 8-10 seconds, making your spheres, Force of Will the oldest sphere, and then ult is worth it only in laning or sieging a tower, but in a team fight or a 1v1, having that extra damage is much more worth the money.

Captain Aishi1 votes

scaling CDR blues + a 20% CDR item is all you need so it's pretty worth it (7 orb ultimate means about 1k more damage in your spell rotation lategame so it's very worth it)

Omnem Occido1 votes

My build is Sorc Boots, Seraph's, Zhonya's, Deathcap, Luden's and Void. A 6 ball ult deals 1350 magic damage, with 35% magic resist ignore. 20% CDR from runes, mastery.

Fasmodey1 votes

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My build is Sorc Boots, Seraph's, Zhonya's, Deathcap, Luden's and Void. A 6 ball ult deals 1350 magic damage, with 35% magic resist ignore. 20% CDR from runes, mastery.

You use your Q for each 3.2 seconds, I use it for each 2.2 seconds. You're stronger to squishy champions, I'm stronger against tanky champions, but doesn't matter. I can destroy squishies in same way with you but you're going to lose 1 Q, which mean 600 damage in 10 seconds.

CDR is super strong on Syndra, I can confirm it as Syndra main.

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