Which Champions would you claim are hedonists?

darkdill·Dec 11, 2017·5 votes·1,049 views

Hedonism - Wikipedia

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Just for discussion.

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NaHypochloriteDec 11, 20179 votes

Jinx , clearly.

GreenLoreDec 11, 20177 votes

Illaoi is definetly one,her whole religion is essentially about "doing what you want to do" Vladimir also comes off as a hedonist,though I dunno where riot will take his new lore.

Game girl 1Dec 12, 20172 votes

This doesnt make Illaoi a hedonist now, does it? She doesn’t really so whatever she wants, it’s more that she is just constantly in motion. Also everything she does is for her diety, not for her own pleasure.

GreenLoreDec 12, 20171 votes

Well see it this way: Does Illoai do whatever she wants because her god demands it or does she follow the demands of her god because she wants to do it?

Illaois definition of "being in motion" is that you should follow your desires,if she herself wouldn't want to preach her gods lessons,then she wouldn't follow her desires herself wouldn't she?(and the fact that she can use the powers of her god means that she is likely no hypocrite in that regard).

Blood MagicksDec 12, 20171 votes

That's actually more Nietzsche than Epicurus. Epicurus encouraged self-restraint if following your desires would be detrimental in the long run.

GreenLoreDec 12, 20171 votes

Well from the way Illaois faith is described she also disapproves of detrimental behaviors.

For example a drunkyard who wastes his life with drinking alcohol the whole time would be someone who would count as stagnated and needed to change. Essentially it says that you should follow your desires,but you shouldn't let yourself get caught within these desires.

Blood MagicksDec 13, 20172 votes

Further reason why she is more Nietzsche than Epicurus. The latter was okay with stagnation if it lead to tranquility, inner peace and therefore happiness.

Nietzsche is all hyped about perpetual change and movement.

GreenLoreDec 13, 20171 votes

Well aren't in the end both describing hedonism though?

I mean thats what this thread is all about,not a specific view on hedonism.

Blood MagicksDec 15, 20171 votes

Nietsche was far from a hedonist although he took inspiration from it. He's his own movement.

GreenLoreDec 16, 20171 votes

But overall that doesn't change the fact that illaoi is a hedonist. Sure she includes some aspects of Nietsches philosophy,but that doesn't mean that she is automatically not one herself(and honestly,she wants to move,so she herself does what she likes)

Blood MagicksDec 11, 20176 votes

Vladimir will most certainly have some very hedonistic traits in the new lore as part of maintaining his health and sanity and living a long and happy life. There is much to be said about how blood mages draw their powers from their lifeforce, and how power, perfect health and eternal youth are woven together in hemomancy.

The short paragraph we were given indicates a life of luxury as he is worshipped among Noxian nobility. I imagine all sorts of events are held at his mansion, some of which much too lewd for League's current rating.

That said as someone who has read some of the work of Epicurus(admittedly an Eudaimonist ) and been widely interested in Aristippus I wouldn't classify him as a pure hedonist and I hope Riot doesn't either. It's just not a particularly intriguing or deep school of thought.

EnsorcellDec 11, 20172 votes

Hmm... Zoe probably.

Twisted Fate perhaps?

WOOOOOOOOHOOOOOODec 11, 20172 votes

Evelynn?

Valor BotDec 11, 20171 votes

Sounds very similar to Illaoi 's ideals.

darkdillDec 11, 20171 votes

Yeah, sounds about right.

FasmodeyDec 11, 20171 votes

Karthus maybe?

He thinks only way to be in peace and happiness is being dead.

SkelenthDec 11, 20171 votes

But he also wants others to experience said peace and happiness, so I doubt it.

Craft ZeppelinDec 11, 20171 votes

If Aurelion is not a hedonist swaglord the lore team be damned.

MuffledGarbageDec 11, 20171 votes

Yorick for sure!!!

HonestJohnTheConDec 11, 20171 votes

Old Ahri, Jinx, Illaoi, Vladimir, and Zoe come to mind.

Ezreal to a lesser extent.

DariusDemiurgeDec 11, 20171 votes

Majority of bilgewater. A small but sizable chunk of noxus.

Talos of AltmoraDec 11, 20171 votes

Zoe , Illaoi , Evelynn Jinx

Darrosh JewfistDec 12, 20171 votes

Jinx and Illaoi are probably the most hedonist. Jinx just does whatever she wants for fun and Illaoi literally follows a religion that boils down to hedonism. Kled Ziggs Evelynn and Zoe are all "hedonistic" in a way where they do stuff that makes them feel good instead of some high ideal. Kled, for me, seems like he likes battle enough and the Noxians are an outlet for that. Ziggs likes to blow things up. Evelyn likes to torture things. And Zoe just... does her thing...