Can the Void get an event like Bilgewater did?

warpenguin555··207 votes·6,824 views

The Bilgewater event last year was friggen amazing. I love everything from the interactive quests for icons to Black Market Brawlers with my favorite thing being the new music and Gangplank announcer. Just incredible. I would love to see the Void get a similar event. Malzahar, Vel'koz or Kassadin could be the announcer even. The Lore was awesome too, and i would love to see how a Void Invasion of sorts would be handled

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Rebonack18 votes

I'm honestly hoping it turns out that there's more to the Void than 'no, they're totally not Tyranids from another plane of existence'.

The Will that Sol felt was obviously intelligent. So are the Voidborn. Intelligent things don't just go around destroying stuff for kicks and giggles. They have reason for what they do. Something motivates them. So here's a completely random concept based in part on Cho's selection quote.

Chogath "Death will not be the end for you. I have seen to it. For eternity, you are mine."

Imagine for a moment that the Void is a place wholly alien to the structured universe of Runeterra. We already know that Voidlings don't react quite right to physical forces they don't really 'get'. Sol told us as much. So let's take that a step further. In the Void, physical law does not exist in any way we could relate to. There are no external physical constants. There is only Will. What is 'real' becomes a plastic, flowing thing shaped by the Wills that inhabit the Void. These Wills consume, but nothing ever really dies. They're just drawn into the purpose of the stronger Will.

What would such beings see in a world like Runeterra?

Chogath "Such... hideous creatures..."

They would see a world calcified in form. Seared by burning light and suffocated by smothering law. A place where the pitiless, merciless march of unyielding physical reality destroys Wills. A place where Wills cease to be, where their rotted, festering remains are gorged upon by Nagaboros and vomited back out as mockeries scoured of the minds that once were. A place where things perish and cease to be. A place where Wills wither under the tyranny of unfeeling rules that serve only to perpetuate an endless cycle of purposeless suffering.

If any of the Wills that dwell in the Void are capable of feeling anything like empathy, how could they allow such a hideous, existentially terrifying place to continue existing when it's within the realm of their ability to end it?

And end it they will.

In the only way they know how.

Chogath "Om nom nom nom nom!"

kile1474 votes

Intelligent things don't just go around destroying stuff for kicks and giggles.

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Rebonack6 votes

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The Joker has a reason behind the mayhem he causes. He does it to justify his philosophy that civilization is a cruel, shallow sham that breaks down at the slightest provocation.

I would suggest reading The Killing Joke for better insight into his character.

Even in the most warped cases where things are causing suffering for mere pleasure, that's still a reason. And killing things because you're hungry is certainly a reason, too. However, 'eat all the things because I'm all the hungry' is a really shallow, uninteresting motivation. I would rather like it if Riot steered away from such banal tropes and shot for something a little more nuanced. Hopefully they manage to pull off the same with Noxus.

kile1472 votes

No I get that Joker is trying to prove how frail civilization is, but you literally worded it as kicks and giggles, which is what Joker specializes in.

Rebonack4 votes

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No I get that Joker is trying to prove how frail civilization is, but you literally worded it as kicks and giggles, which is what Joker specializes in.

Okay, that's fair, probably a poor choice of words on my part.

While blowing things up just cuz might work as the motivation for a single mentally disturbed character (hi Jinx), I would really prefer a similar level of depth be avoided on the motivations for a whole faction.

Wanting to eat all the things because he's all the hungry works for Kog because he's rather explicitly a young Will and he's still trying to make sense of this very alien world he got dumped into. Honestly, of all the various Void beasties, Kog and Vel probably have the most room for interesting character development.

I'm just dreading that Riot won't expand on their respective characters. Or worse, apply Kog's childish 'eat all the things' motivation to the Void as a whole. There's just so much room with the Void to use it to tell an interesting story from a viewpoint very different from the ones we're use to.

kile1471 votes

I do like your interpretation of the void and think it could be an interesting direction to go. It's an idea I have heard before but not applied to the void. I think it's an interesting concept that instead of being malicious the void beings are trying to free Runterra from the shackles of structure and form. It's a similar arc to how Karthus seeks to free people from the pains of life, but applied on a interdimensional scale.

Rebonack1 votes

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I do like your interpretation of the void and think it could be an interesting direction to go. It's an idea I have heard before but not applied to the void. I think it's an interesting concept that instead of being malicious the void beings are trying to free Runterra from the shackles of structure and form. It's a similar arc to how Karthus seeks to free people from the pains of life, but applied on a interdimensional scale.

Yup! It's not a new idea by any means, but the trick with any idea is to use it in an interesting fashion.

Villains with a compelling motive for doing what they do are far more interesting than villains that are just destroying stuff for the evilulz. At least in my opinion. Especially because these are characters that people play as. Knowing what motivates your favorite champ is cool. Take Jhin for example. We know why he does what he does. He's compelled to create his 'art'. Which is as tragic as it is horrifying. And he's a more interesting character for it.

CasterGilgamesh1 votes

I sorta like the concept since the void creature had no original comprehensible form In you interpretation does that mean since they are forced to take on a physical form does that mean they are weaker on earth?

Rebonack1 votes

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I sorta like the concept since the void creature had no original comprehensible form In you interpretation does that mean since they are forced to take on a physical form does that mean they are weaker on earth?

Depends on what you mean by 'weaker' I suppose.

When a Void critter manifests on Runeterra they are at least partially subject to the laws of physics. They seem to be able to bend them. And some Void critters appear to be able to break a few rules completely (Velkoz "What's this 'gravity' you speak of?"). I would imagine a really powerful Void critter would likely be able to do thing like flagrantly ignoring Newton's laws of motion, which would make harming it effectively impossible.

In the Void, however, they would be totally unbound. A naked Will. They would be able to dictate reality around themselves, provided another more powerful Will isn't decreeing something else. A human that got dumped into the Void would probably get warped by it (Kass) or be subsumed into the Will of something nasty (Malz). But physically fighting a Void critter on their home turf would be like trying kill the ocean by slapping it with a pool-noodle. Hilarious to watch, but ultimately futile.

CasterGilgamesh1 votes

i wonder if its possible with that for humans to have a will just as strong if not stronger i mean humans are tied down by mortal needs and desires so by forsaking their physical forms to exist in the void maybe they could gain more power then they ever could on earth but then again the human mind may just fall apart without a body to act as a vesul for it plus only few who are already magically gifted or mentally strong could do it so i assume Syndra Ryze Annie (idk about her since she is just a child maybe when she is older) Xerath (he doesnt need to though since he is already just pure mana but he might be able to just survive in the void easily)Lux Veigar now magic user arent the only ones who may be able to go in the void strong willed humans that are tough to kill might stand a chance without going insane Darius Garen Graves Tryndamere but then again this is all purely on a "what if level" and from my own reasoning of your concept

CasterGilgamesh1 votes

i wonder if its possible with that for humans to have a will just as strong if not stronger i mean humans are tied down by mortal needs and desires so by forsaking their physical forms to exist in the void maybe they could gain more power then they ever could on earth but then again the human mind may just fall apart without a body to act as a vesul for it plus only few who are already magically gifted or mentally strong could do it so i assume Syndra Ryze Annie (idk about her since she is just a child maybe when she is older) Xerath (he doesnt need to though since he is already just pure mana but he might be able to just survive in the void easily)Lux Veigar now magic user arent the only ones who may be able to go in the void strong willed humans that are tough to kill might stand a chance without going insane Darius Garen Graves Tryndamere but then again this is all purely on a "what if level" and from my own reasoning of your concept

Rebonack1 votes

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i wonder if its possible with that for humans to have a will just as strong if not stronger i mean humans are tied down by mortal needs and desires so by forsaking their physical forms to exist in the void maybe they could gain more power then they ever could on earth but then again the human mind may just fall apart without a body to act as a vesul for it plus only few who are already magically gifted or mentally strong could do it so i assume Syndra Ryze Annie (idk about her since she is just a child maybe when she is older) Xerath (he doesnt need to though since he is already just pure mana but he might be able to just survive in the void easily)Lux Veigar now magic user arent the only ones who may be able to go in the void strong willed humans that are tough to kill might stand a chance without going insane Darius Garen Graves Tryndamere but then again this is all purely on a "what if level" and from my own reasoning of your concept

Certainly possible. It could make for a pretty sweet plot point.

Though the Void critters would probably have home-turf points since they know how things work there. For someone who isn't use to it, it would probably seem like seething, incomprehensible chaos. If someone already had a nasty thing with its attention on them, they would probably get Malz'd in a hurry.

I suspect that Kass escaped with his Will mostly because nothing was looking for him. He just stumbled into the Void and realized in a hurry that he needed to get the hell out.

CasterGilgamesh1 votes

such interesting potential if just two people could think this up (wasnt too hard) who knows what a whole team hired by riot could do

nanogibbon1 votes

{quoted} would be like trying kill the ocean by slapping it with a pool-noodle.

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Steelflame1 votes

This interpretation of the Void sounds insanely like the Bartimaeus Trilogy's other realm (name escapes me atm of that realm's name), where they pull djinn out of. That actually sounds almost EXACTLY like it infact, including how the void creatures react to being pulled into the physical world. Almost wonder if a few rioters had possibly read the series way back when, as even early on a lot of the void creatures had a fairly similar thing going on as they do now.

BTW, the series is pretty good, and I'd recommend reading it, if nothing else than for Bartimaeus's humor, and the lore of that world is really well fleshed out.

Rebonack1 votes

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This interpretation of the Void sounds insanely like the Bartimaeus Trilogy's other realm (name escapes me atm of that realm's name), where they pull djinn out of.

Fun fact: the canon name for the place djinn come from is djinnestan (no, seriously). Though it's more of an Otherworld sorta place than anything else. With their own nations and their own cities and everything else. More or less like another Earth that exists contemporaneously with ours. That said, I can't think of any author who uses djinn in their works that sticks to the original mythology.

That actually sounds almost EXACTLY like it infact, including how the void creatures react to being pulled into the physical world. Almost wonder if a few rioters had possibly read the series way back when, as even early on a lot of the void creatures had a fairly similar thing going on as they do now.

BTW, the series is pretty good, and I'd recommend reading it, if nothing else than for Bartimaeus's humor, and the lore of that world is really well fleshed out.

Like I said, it isn't a particularly uncommon concept. It's basically what you get when you take the concept of Lucid Dreaming and apply it to an actual place. 's probably one of the most compelling ways to make a realm of primordial chaos/creative potential 'work' in a fashion that people can grasp. Because after all, everyone has dreams. And most people have managed to exert their will on a dream at least once. It gives it JUST enough grounding in reality that it feels 'right' as a concept. And best of all, it's incomprehensible in a way that's unsettlingly familiar.

But who knows what Riot will end up doing with the Void. We might just get totally not Tyranids from a universe that is spooky and purple but otherwise material. Which would be a real shame when there are so many other ways it could go.

UomoAfide13 votes

Most likely i'd say, not sure when or how but we're gonna definitely see a Void inspired event. Probably the Void invasion of Valoran, many new or reworked champs tend to include at least a notice about Voidlings and Voidspawns. We also have Aurelion's short story which hints at a possible Void god or supreme Void entity opposed to him that he fought in the past. So yeah, we're probably gonna see a Void event one day. Next Event? Hard to say, but definitely in the making.

CasterGilgamesh4 votes

i think that the thing is Sols lore is just Chogath he is the terror of the void

Horidas15 votes

It may be Cho'Gath or maybe even Malzahar. Though, I don't think Cho'Gath can create portals, and their mind is too set on violence rather than using others. It's more likely we'll see a new all-powerful void champion soon.

CasterGilgamesh4 votes

but it cant be malz because sol definitely knew it was a void creature with tons of power to be able to rip a whole between the void and this world while If it isnt cho then this champion would have some form of teleport maybe even a mobile champion (hopefully not another kass) of course it was too massive to go through the rip so that just screams Cho gath since cho is supposed to be massive

UomoAfide3 votes

I'm just speculating of course. Hmm, sure Cho might be a good hint but i still feel the creature described in that story was simply too powerful and massive to be our favourite Spawn reference champion.

coltonjs5 votes

Maybe all the void creatures that we have seen so far are just pieces split from one super being. they could have Malzahar try and put him back together.

MistroTTC6 votes

It could be Kog'Maw's dad.

CasterGilgamesh1 votes

I'm pretty sure cho is koggles dad I mean he says terror when he also says daddy's coming if I'm not mistaken (though I might be) cho was released after Kog so it most likely was cho Kog was referring to

Rebonack1 votes

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I'm pretty sure cho is koggles dad I mean he says terror when he also says daddy's coming if I'm not mistaken (though I might be) cho was released after Kog so it most likely was cho Kog was referring to

Riot has said that Cho isn't Kog's daddy. They've also said (I forget where) that Kog's dad wouldn't work as a champion simply due to sheer scale. And considering how big Sol is, that's saying something.

CasterGilgamesh1 votes

interesting...i never knew that i did hear something about a possible void champion being too big but then again AurelionSol should be a giant but they still let him be in the league

Wayward Killjoy5 votes

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Most likely i'd say, not sure when or how but we're gonna definitely see a Void inspired event. Probably the Void invasion of Valoran, many new or reworked champs tend to include at least a notice about Voidlings and Voidspawns. We also have Aurelion's short story which hints at a possible Void god or supreme Void entity opposed to him that he fought in the past. So yeah, we're probably gonna see a Void event one day. Next Event? Hard to say, but definitely in the making.

Were STILL WAITING on Kog'Maws dad, if nobbody remembers.

Kîndrêd4 votes

"Terror coming, Daddy coming" KogMaw

Fasmodey3 votes

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"Terror coming, Daddy coming" KogMaw

dat broken english tho xd

UomoAfide5 votes

If i recall correctly, years ago Riot stated that they didn't want to use a supposedly powerful entity like Kog Maw's dad as a champion. Perhaps that changed, after all Aurelion Sol is the same thing in terms of champion creation. We'll see.

Blood Magicks12 votes

I agree the Void is incredibly cool but it's probably gonna be after the Shurima and Noxus events.

In general I think despite how awesome it is, the Void is very hard to write about. While Noxus/Shurima are full of human intrigue and politics and whatnot, the Void has, in total, 2 humans and the rest is monsters.

The best that could be done will be straight Lovecraft fanfiction, because this is what the Void lore originally is. Unless, of course, other factions are involved.

kile1474 votes

This captures it pretty well. I think that having the void characters features I other events could work. For example Diana and Leona teaming up to fight void creatures in the next Targon event, Kassadin hunting down Malzahar in the next Shurima event, Kha and Rengar fighting in the background of any event. However none of these void stories tie together well enough to really deserve their own event because the void is kind of this nebulous group of champs who really only serve as villains in other stories.

DragonOfTheVoid2 votes

yes and no in most of the lore the void monsters Chogath Malzahar Kassadin Khazix etc arr smart some can even talk so it would not be unlickly that there could be factions in the void mabey they all bow down to a all and powerful king

therealdragon6 votes

an ally has been slain Velkoz : Your ally has not evolved past avoiding pain double kill Velkoz : Two of your allies have lost knowledge

an enemy has been slain Velkoz : Your ally is superior to the enemy enemy turret destroyed Velkoz : We have learned how to destroy a turret.

Entheos Geon5 votes

I wouldn't make Kassadin the announcer. Imagine hearing heavy breathing like Darth Vader during all your games..

Isaac McDougal1 votes

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I wouldn't make Kassadin the announcer. Imagine hearing heavy breathing like Darth Vader during all your games..

especially with kass' god-awful actor and audio modifier though i do hope with a new kass voice, his voice is changed to sound like a masked kylo ren

Wind Whistler2 votes

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especially with kass' god-awful actor and audio modifier though i do hope with a new kass voice, his voice is changed to sound like a masked kylo ren

What the hell is wrong with Kassadin's voice? I think it's fine just the way it is. Besides, why do you want him to sound like some guy behind a mask? His voice has little to nothing to do with his mask. Notice how Malzahar sounds weird without wearing a mask? That's because the Void changed it, not any silly mask.

Azteryz4 votes

man a void event would be so damn trippy

i would expect them to release a new champ with this but who could it be? a new creature ' type? or perhaps kassadins daughter taken as sacrafice into the void and turned into a monster?

another thing being they would really have to explain what the void is? what it looks like? is there some sort of system there or is it just a jungle of monsters? what shade of purple is it? there would have to be a lot of explaining needed especially if its gonna be described only through short stories

i can also see the void event being the very last thing that is somewhat of an "endgame" for all these other lore events happening most of them have had some sort of mention of the void so perhaps some final confrontation will happen that involves it

regardless i not only hope we get one but i expect one :3

HighH13 votes

Hopefully they'll kill Malzahar

Dantone3 votes

Yeah... I mean all the void lore apart from Malzahar and Kassadin so far is: "A wild <champion> appears!"

I think it'd be interesting if there was an event where Malzahar is trying to open a gateway to the void to allow more powerful beings to enter and Kassadin is trying to stop him.

Sevixys3 votes

Yeah... I mean all the void lore apart from Malzahar and Kassadin so far is: "A wild <champion> appears!"

I was going to downvote but then I thought about it.

Chogath eats the world Khazix ..Evolves? Tries to hunt Rengar down for vengeance Velkoz seeks knowledge, especially time-related Zilean RekSai ..Is a savage.. And KogMaw is a baby who eats stuff and spits them on Helmet Bro's face. He likes flowers, tho.

Malzahar +Kassadin lore is surprisingly rich compared to those.

Dantone1 votes

I think it's more about potential than what the lore currently is.

The lore right now is pretty ambiguous about the void and they can't really fix that because letting us look into the void will destroy the maddening unknowability of the place. The most interesting thing they can do narratively with the void creatures then is talk about what they've done since coming to Valoran.

But, since Malzahar and Kassadin were humans originally we can actually delve into their pasts. They could lump in some other champs with disembodied lore that fit (maybe Shaco? Some encounter with the void left him mad but able to jump around dimensions (void walk) and spawn voidling traps... idk)

I do think a good event might be the opening (or attempted opening) of a great door to the void to loose a powerful creature upon Valoran (Baron?). Yeah it'd be similar to Oblivion, Dunwich Horror, Supernatural early seasons, etc, but everything is similar to something.

Sevixys1 votes

Simply put - The Lore is Void ;)

Rebonack1 votes

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Simply put - The Lore is Void ;)

Sure would be swell if Riot did something about that.

Espurr VI2 votes

I want Rek'sai to be the commentator

Cheese Pope2 votes

RekSai Announcer crackle crackle crackle

Neku211 votes

Yea We've had Bilgewater, Shurima (Ascension), Frejlord, but not Piltover or Yordletown (sorry forgot what it was called xD) Noxas, Void, and Demacia, or Ionia, and Targon and Zaun... so chances are kinda high, higher because of Taliya coming out soon... Sorry if I just butchered all the spellings xD

elon wątroba2 votes

There will be piltover champion this year, so event for them probably will come too.

Onkel Malte1 votes

It won't come until Malzahar is fixed

and that might take some time [zombie-brand-facepalm]

warpenguin5553 votes

Sadly he's looking to be the next Graves. Badass as fuck but overtuned as hell. My main too:(

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