Thoughts on the Piltie in Ekko's comic?

allthemuslims·May 23, 2015·11 votes·2,383 views

If he was just defending himself against a mugging, he's pure of heart and we can move on. But... If the guy is so pure hearted, then why is he whistling a tune 2-3 minutes after he shot a little kid? Why didn't he get medical attention or yell out for help during the supposed mugging or after he shot the kid? Was he really mugged, or was the kid begging for food and the guy had to snuff out his life? Why is he walking in the same direction he shot the kid (Ekko's running direction) if he's walking away back towards safety and home, looking for another to kill perhaps? My thought is that he's just an arrogant jerk that shot a kid because he felt like he was removing Zaunite filth from the world. I'm glad Ekko made that choice, but I hope he tracks down the man in the (never coming) next chapter. Your thoughts/analyzes below please. And thanks for reading, have a great day (>^__^)>

22 Comments

GreenLoreMay 23, 20154 votes

Yeah,I also think that the guy was simply a jerk. Notice how Ajuna said that he didn't even see the guy?He said he only heard him whistling,so he most likely was shot without even knowing that the guy was there.

I think he might have seen Ajuna stealing food and then shot him,or he might have thought that ajuna heard/saw something about him that he didn't want anyone to know(I mean the piltovian had most likely some fishy business going on there,why else would he go to zaun?)

Tesla EffectMay 23, 20153 votes

A man having a gun to protect himself, sounds so American if you ask me.

Ironclad DragonMay 23, 20151 votes

Tesla pls.

Tesla EffectMay 24, 20152 votes

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Tesla pls.

Even though is kinda random, the truth still stands.

Anywho why would the man, from Piltover, be doing in Zaun if he knows Zaunites hate Piltovians.

Ironclad DragonMay 24, 20155 votes

Visiting a colleague, perhaps? Maybe even a foray into a less scrupulous town to find some illicit materials?

XenohazMay 23, 20152 votes

Well, he isn't defending himself. He's a bad person. That's sorta the point (yay, finally some moral greyness!) trying to be made here. Zaun isn't all evil, and Piltover isn't all good.

TsumikiriMay 23, 20151 votes

This. In the past I feel that the factions of Valoran have been two black and white, which is boring. I love that they're showing the grey in these factions.

MegarolfMay 23, 20152 votes

Hopefully the lore clears this up so i can stop hearing jokes of ekko being a black kid who loves street/gang violence.

allthemuslimsMay 23, 20151 votes

After rereading I'm more convinced he was bad because as soon as he got suspicious about what Ekko saw he tried to shoot him. Why would a man defending himself worry about the truth of the situation coming out?

TolforMay 23, 20151 votes

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After rereading I'm more convinced he was bad because as soon as he got suspicious about what Ekko saw he tried to shoot him. Why would a man defending himself worry about the truth of the situation coming out?

Ajuna saying that he never actually saw the guy before getting shot didn't tip you off?

willcarry4goldMay 23, 20151 votes

didn't ekko kill him in the comic?

allthemuslimsMay 23, 20154 votes

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didn't ekko kill him in the comic?

No, he chose to be with Ajuna as he was dying instead.

Chromatic EagleMay 23, 20151 votes

At first glance, people consider him innocent and the kid a thief. Riot on the other hand seem intent on saying he's not a nice guy, so he probably had ulterior motives.

GreenLoreMay 23, 20153 votes

Keep in mind the guy just walked down the road whistling as if nothing happened after he shot a 12 year old child. Not to mention that Ajuna didn't even know what the guy looked like implying that Ajuna never even saw his face(and thus most likely didn't attack him anyway)

WickedfatesMay 23, 20151 votes

u are putting your own views on what is "suppose" to happen in an emergency like this.... with little lore we can only assume but...

this time period is full of magic and wonders but there is suffering and strife.... people die, people are mugged and killed in the street, might is right, and justice is blind ya?

how do you know what he thinks, what he feels, there is no indication in that besides his comments that are saying he (ekko) dosent know what happened... and he doesnt...

have you ever been in a situation that caused a state of extreme shock.... people react "weird" in those situations... walking, whistling, confused as to what is going on after a mugging in which you had to defend your life and possibly kill someone is a huge shock to most people systems and might result in a distorted state like this person seemed to be in....

or he might be a cold blooded killer... we dont have enough info to know, but using what i see, he seems less at fault and more a victim....

as is ekko for sending out his soldier/ward who just wanted attention, and to be noticed by prob ekko himself as is the dieing child/soldier, who was prob ill equipped to find food, just wanted the attention of his hero and volunteered for any assignment as is the whistling man who was prob just going home from work and only thought about his warm meal at home

allthemuslimsMay 23, 20152 votes

The problems with the theory that he's a good guy just heading home to his family are: He walked away from the scene, then after some distance he turned around to head back towards the scene (as shown by him walking towards where Ekko was running, if he was heading home he would be walking away from that direction). This likely shows that he got paranoid about leaving evidence behind and is looking to clean it up, or the he's still looking for trouble. Ajuna didn't see the man that shot him, which is difficult to accomplish if you are mugging someone His response to Ekko assaulting him wasn't immediately self defense, shooting Elko like someone would if they were assaulted from behind just after being mugged. Instead he was confused, then when he heard that Elko knew what happened he said he didn't know how much he saw, then shot him. Like I said above if you're innocent why do you care what other people saw?

WickedfatesMay 23, 20151 votes

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The problems with the theory that he's a good guy just heading home to his family are: He walked away from the scene, then after some distance he turned around to head back towards the scene (as shown by him walking towards where Ekko was running, if he was heading home he would be walking away from that direction). This likely shows that he got paranoid about leaving evidence behind and is looking to clean it up, or the he's still looking for trouble. Ajuna didn't see the man that shot him, which is difficult to accomplish if you are mugging someone His response to Ekko assaulting him wasn't immediately self defense, shooting Elko like someone would if they were assaulted from behind just after being mugged. Instead he was confused, then when he heard that Elko knew what happened he said he didn't know how much he saw, then shot him. Like I said above if you're innocent why do you care what other people saw?

well first and foremost i have to say some great thoughts on possible situations... i love a good discussion!

now...

your thought that he walked away from the scene yes? i disagree with that... Ekkos first and foremost thought initially was to get to his friend as fast as possible, to this end he determined that the rooftop route was the most efficient, not the route where the whistling man was.....

its a city, with ally-ways, with enough avenues of approach that he has to do this time rewind thing about 100 times.... a man walking along some random path whistling (and not along the optimal route) means nothing in the scheme of anything ( i whistle while walking all the time, should i be considered a suspect?? =^P) with no further showing of some other motive?

im curious.... in a time not our own, in a city where rules and law are different from our own, how can we know how a person would react to a crime of this magnitude... in todays time if a "minor" (and i mean it only in the sense of someone from that time periods perception of that particular crime at the time... whooh, a mouthful) crime like car theft of an insignificant amt to me was taken from my car, i prob would not report it.... why would this citizen act any different for his own time period?

allthemuslimsMay 24, 20152 votes

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your thought that he walked away from the scene yes? i disagree with that... Ekkos first and foremost thought initially was to get to his friend as fast as possible, to this end he determined that the rooftop route was the most efficient, not the route where the whistling man was.....

its a city, with ally-ways, with enough avenues of approach that he has to do this time rewind thing about 100 times.... a man walking along some random path whistling (and not along the optimal route) means nothing in the scheme of anything ( i whistle while walking all the time, should i be considered a suspect?? =^P) with no further showing of some other motive?

im curious.... in a time not our own, in a city where rules and law are different from our own, how can we know how a person would react to a crime of this magnitude

Sorry for the hasty responses to your points but I don't have much time to write this: 1: The whistling man was walking towards Ajuna within minutes of shooting him. If he had a destination in mind (Home, family, business) there is no reason to be walking in that direction after you've left the scene of the killing because you're already en route to your destination and going back would only slow you down. He clearly had a different motive for going back there IE clean up evidence 2:Ekko rewound about 100 times, he had a hunch that this whistling man was the killer and used a time stream to interrogate him, and the man admitted to shooting him (He tried to mug me, I don't know what u saw etc...) 3:It's murder. It's a crime of the highest magnitude. A little more serious than the valet stealing my loose change and changing my radio presets.

WickedfatesMay 24, 20151 votes

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Sorry for the hasty responses to your points but I don't have much time to write this: 1: The whistling man was walking towards Ajuna within minutes of shooting him. If he had a destination in mind (Home, family, business) there is no reason to be walking in that direction after you've left the scene of the killing because you're already en route to your destination and going back would only slow you down. He clearly had a different motive for going back there IE clean up evidence 2:Ekko rewound about 100 times, he had a hunch that this whistling man was the killer and used a time stream to interrogate him, and the man admitted to shooting him (He tried to mug me, I don't know what u saw etc...) 3:It's murder. It's a crime of the highest magnitude. A little more serious than the valet stealing my loose change and changing my radio presets.

1- why do you think the whistling man was walking towards ajuna? it shows ekko running past him, not that the man was walking towards ajuna... in a convoluted city you might have to travel in many different directions that seem to take you to one area but in fact lead in the opposite direction eventually, its why ekko had to use the rooftops to reach his friend in time imo

let us say he did shot the poor child, he was being mugged.... that is even an acceptable response in many places in our own world, let alone a world in which LoL lives in, filled with dangers, magic and weird science
while murder is a crime of the highest magnitude, self defense is not. if the man (and we do have limited info) was simply defending himself from an attack, i would not call it murder at all.... a tragic accident, completely avoidable, but not murder, thankfully ekko did not compound the problems by going after him and attacking him... again

Togekiss24May 24, 20151 votes

My question is what is someone from Piltover doing in Zuan to begin with, especially given the conflict the two factions have against each other?

allthemuslimsMay 25, 20151 votes

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My question is what is someone from Piltover doing in Zuan to begin with, especially given the conflict the two factions have against each other?

My thought is he's there to "take out the trash" in a sociopathic, homicidal way. A lot of serial killers do this, they'll have a type of person they feel needs to be purged from the world and that's why they do what they do. (Source: Criminal Minds and a High School Psychology course)

Togekiss24May 25, 20151 votes

I guess that's feasible. On the flipside, however, he's asking to get beat up by entering Zuan to begin with. :P