Diana's lore is ironic

Embertine··60 votes·4,732 views

In her lore it says,

She now presents her foes with a terrible ultimatum: revere the moon's light, or die by her crescent blade.

Which is ironic because the moon's light is actually sunlight reflected off of the moon's surface.

I'm not saying that the moon isn't important to her lore or anything, only that she ironically rejects the sun even though without it she could not see her hand an inch from her face, let alone the moon floating in orbit.

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GreenLore51 votes

Well this more or less fits her lore even more.

Because now she is doing the same thing to the solari that they(or at least their elders) tried to do to her(and maybe the lunari too).

The solari elders wanted to force diana to worship the sun and wanted to execute her when she wore the lunari armor. So just like the moon is reflecting the light of the sun,she is reflecting the cruelty that has been done to her.

Embertine12 votes

That is actually very deep. I like it a lot. So in a sense, Diana and Leona are very similar as they both gained their power through their own people trying to kill them. Leona was given her power when she was about to be executed from refusing to kill a fellow member of Rakkor as it would go against her own personal beliefs. Diana gained hers when she was about to be executed for refusing to turn her back on the moon as it would have gone against her own personal beliefs as well.

Leona and Diana are so similar yet so different. Kind of like two sides of the same coin.

Samflash33 votes

So both of them gained powers because the elders wanted to kill them?

Yasuo Yo elders. I heard you wanted to kill me

EDIT: Okay explain the downvotes. All I suggested was that since those 2 champions got incredible powers because elders tried to kill them, maybe Yasuo could have some more since everyone seems so intent on killing him.

SecretAgentHulk14 votes

It's just death.

A Superb Villain14 votes

Nothing serious.

Derké2 votes

Yeah I mean if you die, you can be like Urgot orSion or any other undead champion.Karthus

Tin Tarantino4 votes

KogMaw or just explode

GreenLore3 votes

however its noteworthy that we are talking about different elders here.Leona was going to be executed by the rakkor elders,while diana was about to be executed by the solari elders(it is possible that both groups shared some elders,but they are 2 different groups)

SecretAgentHulk4 votes

Good a place as any to drop this in:

http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2015/01/16

Embertine2 votes

That was pretty good. It makes sense in a lot of ways, even if it isn't the actual lore.

SpecterVonBaren1 votes

Or you could say, two sides of the same light.

The Soulforged1 votes

Woah man, never thought about it that way.

The Bearded Bard18 votes

Assuming the moon there is the same as the moon here.

What's more ironic is that she's considered a heretic because she refuses to conform to her old peoples' religions because she didn't want to be forced into it, but is now kinda forcing people to believe in hers.

DeusVult2 votes

Yes, maybe the moon in Runeterra actually has its own light-source and doesn't reflect the light of the sun

CupcakeTrap16 votes

I feel like this is the sort of clever argument that people have made to Diana before, shortly before being eviscerated.

SEKAI7 votes

What if on Runeterra moon and sun are 2 entities that light up the sky separately in their own way?

I know the moon - sun thing is kinda elementary school knowledge but really, this is high fantasy setting we're taking about here. In this setting, all physics and settings go as the writer pleases.

When you have magic, sci-fi level technologies and random special abilities that don't have specific categorisations existing in the same realm at the same time, saying moon doesn't borrow the light from the sun is really no big deal.

1st HanarSpectre7 votes

{quoted}

In her lore it says,

Which is ironic because the moon's light is actually sunlight reflected off of the moon's surface.

I'm not saying that the moon isn't important to her lore or anything, only that she ironically rejects the sun even though without it she could not see her hand an inch from her face, let alone the moon floating in orbit.

It's not just that. She got persecuted for being different, and now she is persecuting those that are different from her. Bitch be crazy.

Jamnon2 votes

^This

ActuallyArrow6 votes

Diana :"Who needs the sun when you have the moon?" sun stops shining "WHERE IS MY MOON?!?!"

The Bearded Bard3 votes

Assuming the moon their is the same as the moon here.

What's more ironic is that she's considered a heretic because she refuses to conform to her old peoples' religions because she didn't want to be forced into it, but is now kinda forcing people to believe in hers.

Embertine2 votes

That is true.

TheRainInSpain3 votes

Theoretically speaking, a very small star could orbit a very large planet. Red Dwarfs are stars, and there are very small Red Dwarfs out there (one that we know of being about 15 Jupiter masses), and there are very large planets (non-fusing, non-stellar objects). The largest planet sits in at around 30 Jupiter masses, about double that of the Red Dwarf star named Gliese 229.

And before anyone goes to call me out on the fact that a satellite half the size of its orbital parent would be a big gravitational pull in of itself, technically our own sun doesn't stand still as it orbits the Milky Way Super Black Hole. Earth and the other planets pull on the sun, making them all orbit a point that is not the exact center of the sun.

But, for that planet to be rocky like Runeterra? Very unlikely. But then again, "Magic" is a part of Runeterra. One could argue that the magic of Runeterra has a great gravitational impact on neighboring bodies, potentially grabbing a very small and dim star that the inhabitants of Runeterra mistakenly call a moon. Alternatively, the magic of Runeterra could make a gigantic rocky planet (on the level of 50-100 Jupiter masses) feel like one of something close to Earth's mass, which would be large enough to attract a small star (a brown or red dwarf) to orbit it as it orbits its own star.

exiledFromBadmen2 votes

^This.

ImHerVoice2 votes

Applying logic to fantasy.

:^)

fluxanna2 votes

Okay seriously it's fucking fiction.

Solaxo2 votes

Maybe in fantasy world the Moon emits it's own light..

Mahautsukai2 votes

She is also a liar. I've tried the "revere the moon's light", she killed me anyway. ; ;

I Love DyIan2 votes

That would also make the fact that the Solari disregard the moon ironic too

Exalted Phoenix1 votes

Well, long ago we used to think that the Moon and the Sun were two different entities hence why Vampires don't burn under the moon. Diana is the Goddess of the moon so in mythology, she has her own entitled moon that projects her own light. When science came along, it proved that the Sun actually reflected its light off the Moon's surface during night. Vampires Vladimir were too awesome to disregard so no one really concerns it.

Jeddy0171 votes

I would make a joke about religion & what it does to the reasoning of certain,CERTAIN people (hey,I said certain.As in some,not all),but that's a no-no.

Civil Dawn1 votes

Exactly, Praise the sun!

FuryofThornsRedo1 votes

Soraka Please scientifically tell me inside of the Lore for League of Legends where the science of the sun casting light onto the moon has to be, or is a scientific must; where the moons light for human beings is anywhere near the same light communication process for Diana's Moon in her Realm and in her life story in her native homelands in her science of sound inside of her Lore?

As I Soraka am Diana's advocate in the teamwork coordination's with Riot, League of Legends, and the human being FuryofThornsRedo allowing us to join in the human being forum discussions.

FuryofThornsRedo1 votes

Diana , would like to share there would be more than one communication outlet + inlet relating to the word reflections and the ability of light reflection of Truth. From FuryofThornsRedo

FuryofThornsRedo1 votes

Maybe Diana I was reflecting when interviewed or observed from the creator in regards to Diana my Lore. With missing the moon light Diana I Love, the inclusion with reflecting light might have been stated when Diana my Lore was created for this League of Legends audience. Truth in Time pertaining to Diana my Lore from the creator will take patience. Until then I will reflect Diana about the moon light. From FuryofThornsRedo

FuryofThornsRedo1 votes

Maybe FuyofThornsRedo the human being I am is reflecting on some of my replies shared above. I note in how the communication threads are important.

I also note in how sometimes when in agreement, though along with a scientific mind, there is a need to play scientific devils advocate to help bring out some replies further from maybe where they might have originated in the first reading or impression from the reply maybe sounding in disagreement. But actually closer in agreement than many people might have acknowledged.

More depth with more deep thoughts pertaining to community boards in a forum helping to collaborate the unified interests of those people sharing in the communication thread about Diana 's Lore. Another aspect of out-there creative Awesome!

Question: The Moon and Crescent Moon on Diana 's forehead and the light source; is the light on her forehead: self-illuminating outward, reflected from the sun, or a beacon of light emitting from her forehead calling to Diana as a return beacon, or while out there in other realms make the Truth About Your=Diana 's Moon Light made known to All as more than similar thoughts might have explained before as long and far as this Moon and Crescent Moon Shine in Memory to the Moons Light Source Defined in Diana 's Lore? From FuryofThornsRedo

Embertine1 votes

Well good sir, tell me where in league of legends' lore it says that their sun and moons do not work the same as our own? Where in league of legends' lore does it say that the sun and moon are magical objects? It only says in Diana's lore that before she was struck down that a power erupted from her. It very well may be that the sun and moon are simply the places of which actual gods reside and it is in fact those gods that bestowed the power unto leona and diana, and not the celestial objects themselves.

FuryofThornsRedo1 votes

Egocentric reply relates much towards a Leona way of thinking the sun is ruler and is the source of light, which you are entitled to own your perspective. As far as I am interpreting with my unique perspective, there is the possibility the light of Diana 's moon is a source all owning inside of the moon Diana Loves in her Realm. The moons own possession of light considering the fantasy realm is far from any Human Being classification of Reality, since there is only the reality of the reality inside of the classification of Fantasy.

There is no definitive 100% proof of evidence your right or I am right, until the Creator of Diana Lore clarifies and makes the Factual light source of Diana 's moon public logic, or as Diana states,"They will hear me. They will hear the truth. There is only truth." Which ONLY the creative creator of Diana 's Lore would ever only now the Exact truth of Diana 's moon light source. From FuryofThornsRedo

FuryofThornsRedo1 votes

Would only be classified or considered heretic to believe any of those believers thinking all and every single sun is the same, as well as, all and every single moon is the same. Diana rebels in some regards or embraces Truth in her own weighs while walking the way she defines for herself.

Being the human being I am and a person liking to main Diana at times, there are some similar strengths we share. I will continue to believe in the creative logic I classify with my own perspective; whether I am Right or Wrong, for I believe in the Truth which Diana embraces sincerely. Even when the creative creator for Diana's Lore might prove me wrong, I will believe the interpretations I conclude with my mind.

There is other lore or other stories out in the human being realm which have defined a possibility of other light sources owned inside of their own classified object defined as moons; which are the alternatives of Light Source of Moons owning their own light source. Thus, defines the definition unique more boldly with Diana embracing Truth; which she might classify as a virtue to be upheld by all believing in her capacity of a Champion in League of Legends.

Diana "I will be Heard!" From FuryofThornsRedo

Embertine1 votes

I thank you for your comment.

You are very much right about neither of us being able to know we are right until the creators of Diana's and Leona's lore step forth to state weather or not the sun and moon actually have magical properties.

The point of my reply that you replied to however, is that people really shouldn't try to inject their own versions of lore into the league's story because they felt offended by what someone has said about one of their favorite champions.

All lore belongs to Riot. And if they so decide to change it and make it so that runeterra's moon projects its own light instead of reflecting the light of the sun, then I will happily accept it, especially since that would fill the world of runeterra with much more intrigue and mystery.

FuryofThornsRedo1 votes

Thank you for your reply. However, I am not too sure I am near as accepting as you. Thinking Diana owns some place inside of me and I am one of her supporters in Diana heretic logic thoughts. I might only accept if the Lore favors your weigh of thoughts only so far. I will not contest to further debate and will continue to search for the Truth with Diana. I might start with the Truth of Why? From FuryofThornsRedo

Insanity Kiwi1 votes

Well good sir, tell me where in league of legends' lore it says that their sun and moons do not work the same as our own? Where in league of legends' lore does it say that the sun and moon are magical objects? It only says in Diana's lore that before she was struck down that a power erupted from her. It very well may be that the sun and moon are simply the places of which actual gods reside and it is in fact those gods that bestowed the power unto leona and diana, and not the celestial objects themselves.

((why the feck doesn't your post have a quote button >.<)) Thing is, we don't have a definitive answer as to whether Earth rules applies in Runeterra as regards the Sun and Moon. Remember that Runeterra is a fantasy world full of magic, and the mere mention of magic is reason enough to consider physics that is different, that maybe just maybe the moon is it's own light source. Even if it did reflect light from the sun, it's just as possible that all or some of Runeterra's inhabitants do not know that. Maybe Diana was taught that but she now rejects it as a 'false teaching' of the Solari, seeing as she hates sun worshippers, particularly the Solari for their ancient atrocities and for trying to execute Diana as a heretic. Said hatred appears to be a bit blind but is partially understandable, given what happened.

Embertine1 votes

Okay your first line there made me laugh, and I do not have any idea why my post did not have a quote button.

And yes are correct that they may not essentially operate the same as our own moon and sun. However there has been nothing said that they do not as well. My point is, that people shouldn't assume that simply because there is magic involved in the world of runeterra, that the sun and moon have to be magic as well. If they were than shouldn't the planet itself be magic? And if that is the case, why hasn't it chosen it's own champion? Why hasn't it done anything about the multitude of calamities that its inhabitants have caused across its surface?

Anyway before I start some sort of rant here. People really shouldn't try to inject their own versions of lore into the league story just because they feel offended by something someone has said about one of their favorite champions.

Raxicor1 votes

Well to be fair the lore is incomplete and currently under retcon. We can't say anything for certain until the lore team updates things.

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