Soo.. We got the same story in three packages. A cinematic, a short story and her shortenec lore all tell the same tale of a spooooky spirit of vengeance. Is that all? Seriously? Can't we get like some background information on the SI or her origin story?
Earl Eulrich9 votes
GreenLore1 votesWell you have to consider that with kalista there are multiple things to do. First of all we don't know much about her original life,so while her future might not seem that interesting,but her past is an interesting thing they can explore.
Then there are the possibilities of kalista hunting betrayers. Sure small fry like the one in the video is no enemy for her,but stronger enemies might need more planning to do. Also who knows what she is doing in her free time,when she doesn't get summoned?She has to be somewhere,probably doing her own stuff.
Earl Eulrich5 votes“Your cause is our cause,” said Kalista, the Spear of Vengeance. Her voice was grave cold. “We walk the path of vengeance as one, now."
You seem to miss the most important point there..."she"´s referring to herself as "we", so she´s not an individual being anymore. "She"´s just personificated Vengeance and therefor she won´t be baking with Morg in her freetime, "she" just doesn´t exist in this realm when she does not have to take revenge for some betrayal (maybe she could hunt down the Riot Lore team though, for backstabbing the Lore-fans and killing the IoW without further notice. That would make a great story!).
GreenLore2 votesWell isn't that a unique character type to begin with? We have so many champions,it isn't like everyone has to follow the same formula. She is a member of the shadow isles,so she is most likely living there and she might still hunt the one who betrayed her,considering that he was most likely a member of the Shadow isles too,which means that he is now probably one of their undead.
She won't go to fight with morgana in her free time,but if someone sells their soul to her to kill a champ who has betrayed him/her,then she would get into the action.
Also she does remember bits of her past and we don't know if there aren't ways for her to return to her old self(even if it may be just temporarly)
Earl Eulrich2 votesWell isn't that a unique character type to begin with?
That´s the thing....there is no Character anymore. These Souls only exist for Vengeances Sake...there´s nothing deeper than that. There is nothing like a "she" anymore.
Siachi6 votesI'm guessing it's another "We're going to keep that secret for a while to build up suspense/get you to ask questions" thing like where Gnar's Rage gene comes from, who actually killed Yasuo's master, who of Azir's family survived to pass on his lineage to Sivir, etc., etc.
Helmight2 votesBasically this. To be honest though, there's not much to Kalista's story. She was a human warrior on the Shadow Isles before their Shadow-ification, she got betrayed by Hecarim someone during the Shadowification, and then because of the Shadowification she came back as a spirit of vengeance.
To be completely honest, Kalista's story still kinda NEEDS to be told. We have all the details we really need about her backstory, so all that's left is to expand upon what she WILL do now that she's released.
@Malicious Metal: what else are you really looking for in terms of background information? We already know her origin story, and the story of the Shadow Isles is certainly not going to be told in one champion's bio.
Matezoide4 votesI'm guessing it's another "We're going to keep that secret for a while to build up suspense/get you to ask questions" thing like where Gnar's Rage gene comes from, who actually killed Yasuo's master, who of Azir's family survived to pass on his lineage to Sivir, etc., etc.
So we are never going to find out anything.
Literally every single thing related to Kalista we have seen is ''spooky revenge ghost lady''.
Athenes Lulu6 votes"We want you to keep guessing, because that's how stories should be told! Oh, and plots are overrated."
More like, time for people to make the weirdest speculations and never knowing anything canon. Good job, Rito.
Starlighte4 votesYou're expecting the Narrative Team to communicate? Lol.
Keep hoping, but don't wait with breath abated else you might suffocate. Their presence is essentially Carnival who shows up to shoot the breeze, and Jaredan/Ruunan/Narsil/(the rest of the ones without a public face) just stand on the sidelines and hope that one day we will agree with their decision.
Good communication, I'm glad I waited over 2 years to be able to talk about direction with Riot's Narrative Team.
Shíny1 votesKalista seems like she'll be in the same boat as Aatrox or Anivia, demi-gods of runeterra but they'll never really expand upon them.
GenoXx2 votesKalista can be beaten. Let lucian call her, im sure he'll give her a surprise,
TenshouSNK1 votesWho murdered Kalista? Was it Kat? Since she has a record of assassinating many people.
GreenLore1 voteshttp://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/story-art/UTTHinkA-short-stories-kalista-invocation
there is the full lore,right at the top of this sub-forum.....
Jakethenight1 votesThis tells us absolutely nothing of her backstory. It's not lore, it's a short story.
GreenLore1 votesit does mention how she was once a noble warrior,it does show us how she can be summoned. It does give us more information about her,than gnars lore about him...
Diahane3 votesit does mention how she was once a noble warrior,it does show us how she can be summoned. It does give us more information about her,than gnars lore about him...
So, being slightly better than nothing makes it excusable for it not to convey anything useful apart for things already there in her story's summary? =P Her being a once noble warrior is already in the shortened lore (or at least in her reveal page, from what I remember), so nothing new, while how to invoke her is outright clichéd and pointless. And how she binds with people is showcased in-game.
GreenLore1 voteswhy is that such a bad thing? We have already so many clear thinking characters,why is it suddenly so bad if one of them is focused on only one thing? It is one character out of over 100,its
And her past can be something they can expand upon,while she can still play a role in future stories.
Diahane2 voteswhy is that such a bad thing? We have already so many clear thinking characters,why is it suddenly so bad if one of them is focused on only one thing? It is one character out of over 100,its
"We don't want our characters to be one-dimensional" --- Riot's narrative, 2014
And her past can be something they can expand upon,while she can still play a role in future stories.
What's rubbing someone the wrong way, it's that her past it's the interesting part, since it's implied it has to do with the Ruined King, but was not showcased at all. Actually, she as a character wasn't showcased at all. We only got the sword-wife feelings and thoughts, no Kalista to be seen anywhere in that story.
GreenLore1 votesthe thing is that she might be pretty one-dimensional on her own,but her past can actually add more dimension to her. It is a bit like sion who is pretty much just a vile beast for most of the time,but it is his past(and the moments where he can remember his old self)what makes him multidimensional.
Also it does bring a kind of diversity among the champion roster,a champ whose personality is fading away and who is becoming more like some kind of avatar(of vengance) is a unique character perspective,not necessarily a really multidimensional.
Riot said that they are nowadays ok with experimenting with champs a bit more than they were in the past and that not every new champ has to appeal to the masses,thats why they changed their mind about monster champs and thats most likely why they made kalista the way she is,she is different because they didn't want yet another "muh someone was evil to me,so I want vengance and fight evil",we already have that,what would be the point in adding more?
Diahane2 votesthe thing is that she might be pretty one-dimensional on her own,but her past can actually add more dimension to her. It is a bit like sion who is pretty much just a vile beast for most of the time,but it is his past(and the moments where he can remember his old self)what makes him multidimensional.
It's true, her past would add complexity and the problem which has been highlighted is just this: we didn't get to know anything of her past. The short story is not about it. We're hinted something, we're showed nothing. Besides, a character whose only interesting part is in the past will eventually become one-dimensional as soon as that past is revealed. So it's a double-edged weapon. Does Kalista really have any development possibilities? We don't know, because she's never been shown from her POV, we don't really know how much her personality is lost and fogged. As of now we've got a 1-D character: revenge, revenge, revenge... That's why it'd be good if they had shown her feelings instead of telling them through the eyes of the sword-wife. We'd just have thought: wow, she's a character then, not a revenge-machine. With how they portrayed her, she looks more like a puppet. You call her, she does your bidding (in exchange for your soul, ok, how spooky, wow, never heard of it). But does Kalista do anything to solve her grudge? Does she have a free will or is she just a cursed bundle of souls bound to wander through the world heeding the call of the betrayed? This points should have been addressed, rather than having us know about some unknown sword-wife and how to invoke Kalista. That's detailed, but... irrelevant. You could've had to stumble your pinkie against a cabinet thrice, that wouldn't really change the character, whose supposed to be the centre of the narration. After all, I'm not making up things according to my own taste, it was them saying champions should be the one getting all the attention, =/
Also it does bring a kind of diversity among the champion roster,a champ whose personality is fading away and who is becoming more like some kind of avatar(of vengance) is a unique character perspective,not necessarily a really multidimensional.
Sion's personality too is fading away and he is becoming an undead avatar of war and wrath and bloodlust. So, it's not really that different. He's less spooky metropolitan supernatural ghost and more zombie juggernaut, but the character's structure it's the same. Cool past, bad end, life after death with a broken mind and only small windows of clarity and thus them being on the brink of losing themselves completely, but with the hope of a final redemption.
Riot said that they are nowadays ok with experimenting with champs a bit more than they were in the past and that not every new champ has to appeal to the masses,thats why they changed their mind about monster champs and thats most likely why they made kalista the way she is,she is different because they didn't want yet another "muh someone was evil to me,so I want vengance and fight evil",we already have that,what would be the point in adding more?
Of course champion diversity should be a goal, but the point is: does Kalista really achieve that? Furthermore, they stated they wanted to make characters and stories which breathed and lived (<insert joke about Kalista being undead and so fulfilling neither of those>), but does Kalista strike you as such a character from the short story they published? She could as well be, if they only took the time to actually show her as a character to us, instead of having her be the Runeterran Bloody Mary.
Rainbowgasm1 votesSounds to me that who ever betrayed her hasn't seen justice yet, maybe that's the point of her collecting souls of people who call upon her.
maybe she is building an army to help her kill the people who betrayed her.
Junkο1 votesActually we know a fair bit, not directly related to Kalista, but if you put pieces together from other roles you get some info on SI.
Mainly it was a beautiful place before the Ruined King attempted to break the barrier between life and death, if the Rune Wars are still cannon it happened back then. It's possible Kalista was following the Ruined King but got betrayed in his attempt to break the barrier, which killed her but because the barrier has been broken she was revived shortly after.
