Why does LoR Vlad have to be ugly?

Blood Magicks·12/3/2019, 3:20:32 PM·38 votes·20,097 views

A few years back there was a new Miss Fortune skin (Pool Party). When the splash came out, it was okay, but the boards were immediately flooded with complaints about her face and the shape of her toes.

So what did Riot do in response? Well, MF is supposed to be attractive, so they took the splash back to the drawing board and fixed it until the target players were happy.

Similarly, Vladimir got some new artwork with the advent of the wonderful Legends of Runeterra. There were plenty of complaints about him looking, well, ugly and goofy. It's a bit embarrassing when supposedly one of the most attractive men in your game world looks worse than a Demacian rando. So what did Riot do this time? https://i.ibb.co/GvRLg4v/Screen-Shot-2019-12-03-at-15-06-15.png #"he's fine" https://i.ibb.co/PrS1764/Screen-Shot-2019-12-03-at-15-04-37.png https://i.ibb.co/xmpSW5Z/Screen-Shot-2019-12-03-at-15-05-28.png Sorry to be a pain, but it seems to me that there's a bit of a double standard here. Why won't Riot lift a finger to fix something clearly off, that has received plenty of negative feedback?

[sg-janna]

Appendix: In the last thread there were people saying "that's what he looks like in LoL so he has to look at least as bad here". With regards to that here's a statement from Steve Rubin:

It’s really interesting for us, especially because when you think about in Legends of Runeterra, champions aren’t one-to-one copies of what we see in League of Legends. In League of Legends there are reworks and changes.

We take what players love about the character and design around that. In the future, as League of Legends becomes a bigger thing, you might see characters portrayed in different ways. We do that based on what players think about characters.

Vlad's ugly, outdated design isn't really something players love about him. It's been one of the biggest pain points for years. It kind of ruins the experience, being in sharp contrast to the rest of his characterisation. I mean he looks like a failed attempt at being generic and doesn't even match the original description he had in the old lore.

Not to mention the above quote implies it probably won't change in LoR even if Vlad got reworked in LoL.

Appendix 2: Is it so hard to make minor adjustments to the design that bring him closer to the irresistible king of the night he's supposed to be?

67 Comments

CaptainAntiHeroz12/3/2019, 3:50:14 PM17 votes

I mean in the second image he looks good.... just low res.....

although yeah I mean its Vladimir we're talking about He isn't good looking in most art involving him but in the lore hes supposed to be charming and such

if vlad got some touch ups maybe he could ATTEMPT to rival big daddy vampire edgelord https://media.magic.wizards.com/images/featured/EN_Sorin_Header.jpg

GreenLore12/3/2019, 4:14:22 PM8 votes

So one thing I'm wondering: Why do you think that Vlad is supposed to be good looking in the first place?

Yes he is based on vampires, but that doesn't mean he has to look good.

Ebonmaw Dragon12/3/2019, 6:19:19 PM8 votes

I think that there is a disconnect between what Vladimir fans want him to look like... and what does he truly look like right now.

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/0/01/Vladimir_OriginalCentered.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/1215?cb=20180414203725 This is Vladimir.

https://i.redd.it/ee5oqyl42wc31.jpg This is not Vladimir.

The LoR art work looks like Vladmir, like it or not.

Skins are not cannon and dont count... Saying that he should look "prettier" just because he looks good in that random skin, is like saying that he should look bad, because he looks bad in another skin.

https://ddragon.leagueoflegends.com/cdn/img/champion/splash/Vladimir_1.jpg https://ddragon.leagueoflegends.com/cdn/img/champion/splash/Vladimir_3.jpg

Yordle Gunner12/3/2019, 10:25:47 PM6 votes

You guys are over reacting. Also beauty is in the eye of the beholder, the fact that you guys don't like his facial structure is a :weird champ.

C me12/3/2019, 9:32:56 PM5 votes

Ezreal 's face needs fixing in LoR more than anyone

Sirsir12/3/2019, 8:29:41 PM3 votes

Honestly I think he looks exactly like he should.

Souji12/3/2019, 8:07:33 PM3 votes

Justice for the Blood Lord! Please give Vlad beautiful art. I was disappointed when I saw the LoR art for him too. Would've been a perfect opportunity to update his look a little. I really wish they'd give him a VU as well in League. His models are so old. His Legendary skin now looks like what his Base should look like honestly with the cool thicker blood particles as opposed to the thinner less impressive looking base particles he has. Also for a 1820 skin it's so old it really needs to be updated to be on part with current legendaries. (that VO is still amazing though)

Leadboo12/3/2019, 11:12:25 PM3 votes

Miss Fortune has bigger tits than vlad, that's why.

HideSide12/3/2019, 11:49:12 PM3 votes

U re girl or gay to bother with vlad?

CaptainAntiHeroz12/4/2019, 5:28:16 AM2 votes

The best thing they could do is take his stupid cow-lick from him and get those dumb things off his fingers tbh......

then they can go about updating his art and model

Yordle Xayah12/3/2019, 7:58:16 PM2 votes

To reflect his ugly horrible broken design

######I'm just teasing you... [sg-lulu]

WeAreDuo12/4/2019, 3:20:47 PM2 votes

Imagine walking down the streets of Noxus' upper class region and you see an old dude in all red waving at you with knife fingers... WHY DOES HE HAVE KNIFE FINGERS RIOT??? I DONT UNDERSTAND

Daiki Kuroyami1/1/2020, 8:59:48 PM1 votes

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Vlad's ugly, outdated design isn't really something players love about him. It's been one of the biggest pain points for years. It kind of ruins the experience, being in sharp contrast to the rest of his characterisation. I mean he looks like a failed attempt at being generic and doesn't even match the original description he had in the old lore.

Not to mention the above quote implies it probably won't change in LoR even if Vlad got reworked in LoL.

Someone who understands me. I've been begging for a rework (visual or complete, I don't care, but especially radical change in the visual) of Vladimir because I adore him, but his design is horrible.

Someone should collect signatures.