Irelia should be listed as a rival for Kindred

Ralanr··1 votes·1,884 views

Last I checked she was basically a lich. Since Yorick is listed as a rival to Kindred, shouldn't Irelia?

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Varalessia3 votes

Despite common perception, Irelia is not a lich. You can check the wiki, the only similarity she shares with a lich is the fact that her soul remains outside her body, residing and animating her blades, similar to a lich's phylactery. However a very important part of being a lich is being, you know, dead. Irelia never died in her lore, her life was fading and she was on the brink of death but she never died. So by all means, she's alive, sort of. It's an odd state for sure, but shes not a lich.

Ralanr1 votes

I thought she did die. My bad.

LyrebirdSong1 votes

And this would mean that she would be chased by Wolf, correct?

Varalessia1 votes

I don't think she'd be chased by wolf but instead lamb when her time comes, Irelia has not cheated death of her own accord and instead only expanded her life time, so perhaps once shes past a mortals lifetime Kindred will take interest in her. Or perhaps Kindred as a natural force respects the will of the Celestials and respects the fact that Soraka denied Irelia death. There is plenty of room for interpretation.

However, I don't think many Ionians end up in Wolfs teeth but instead filled with Lamb's bow due to the fact that only those that run from their fate end up being chased by wolf, and Ionians aren't ones to deny fate.

Fasmodey1 votes

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I don't think she'd be chased by wolf but instead lamb when her time comes, Irelia has not cheated death of her own accord and instead only expanded her life time, so perhaps once shes past a mortals lifetime Kindred will take interest in her. Or perhaps Kindred as a natural force respects the will of the Celestials and respects the fact that Soraka denied Irelia death. There is plenty of room for interpretation.

However, I don't think many Ionians end up in Wolfs teeth but instead filled with Lamb's bow due to the fact that only those that run from their fate end up being chased by wolf, and Ionians aren't ones to deny fate.

Many Shadow Isles folks didn't cheat death neither. It was beyond their will. Only noble ones are responsible with this event.

Varalessia1 votes

They seem to have embraced their undeath though and reside in a place where Kindred can't go which makes sense why she'd be pissed at them, any time she wants to begin her hunt of Irelia she can. Also, it wouldn't surprise me if Kindred was angry towards towards Shadow Islanders as a whole, regarldess of whether or not they wanted their fate due to the fact that as the representative of the natural force of death, she doesn't exactly appreciate the fact that they broke the natural order of things.

71389310_DEL1 votes

So she is Brook or at least something close to what he is? http://i449.photobucket.com/albums/qq217/koolaidaintforpirates/one%20piece/brooke.gif

Overlord Forte1 votes

While I'm a fan of the whole 'good Lich' idea that the setup can imply, it's too troublesome. Fulfilling the Lich archetype for Irelia would radically warp her character away from everything she is currently (or can be). We're talking 'full move over to the Shadow Isles' level redesign. Suffice to say, she probably came close or did die, but returned through Soraka's magic, her soul becoming displaced. The energies of life are still with her, though.

Ralanr1 votes

Why would she need to be in the shadow isles for being a lich? I don't see why it can't work in Ionia.

Blade of Justic1 votes

Indeed....

But what are your thoughts on Karthus X Kindred ?

Ralanr1 votes

Karthus might have a crisis of faith.

71389310_DEL2 votes

Well, remember when Karthus was in that band, Pentakill, and asked for the reckoning?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUiOylPbfV0&list=PLbAFXJC0J5Gb9hzEYU5buZd4udIuIUheP

He got his wish with Kindread.

Fasmodey1 votes

In original concept, for being lich you should have to accept being lich other wise you basically die. That means you can't turn to a lich with enforce (Expect Warcraft who includes liches that turned with enforce by Burning Legion's second commander, Kil'Jaeden. And may be more universe that I don't know). But it's not one of the main features for being lich. So it can be change. As other members said, Irelia didn't die. It is like Voldemort. Voldemort didn't die, that's why we can't say he is a lich, as well as Sauron. You have to die and your entire soul (not like Sauron) must be left from your body.

Also last but not least, for turning to a lich, there should be a ritual.

Ralanr1 votes

Are you basing that off an old Russian myth?

Fasmodey1 votes

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Are you basing that off an old Russian myth?

No but I remember this myth a little bit. Is this what happened in this story?

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