Just curious, What are you stances on sexuality? Such things like sexual preference, nudity, intimacy? I know that you get a big fat boot from the boards for anything sexual, but since you addressed sexuality in the champions in a previous /dev blog, I believe, I was curious.
Ralanr5 votesI think it's, "We won't try to be super obvious."
There will be flirting here and there, but they won't primarily make sexuality a big factor in a character. If a character is gay, they won't exactly play it up like it's the only important thing about them.
Vastaylan2 votes
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HalcyonDweller1 votesTaric is just outrageous :)
In both cases it has always been only a community suspicion.
Also it's far from being the sole focus of the characters or their designs.
Ralanr4 votesAnd it was only a community thing.
HalcyonDweller1 votesRight, I'll edit my comment to clarify. Thanks!
Sharjo5 votesIf it's important to their character it'll be brought up when it makes sense. Otherwise it's probably not gonna appear since it's not a key point of every given story. For example Gangplank's probably not gonna be thinking about the time he couldn't get up one morning after some rough sex with Illaoi while he's driving a hot knife in to someone's arm. If she's punching him in the face though those kind of memories might come up again.
Bultz1 votesIf it's important to their character it'll be brought up when it makes sense. Otherwise it's probably not gonna appear since it's not a key point of every given story. For example Gangplank's probably not gonna be thinking about the time he couldn't get up one morning after some rough sex with Illaoi while he's driving a hot knife in to someone's arm. If she's punching him in the face though those kind of memories might come up again.
Lol That is a scary thought, we have all seen that anime. Tentacles lol. I heard Riot is making a gay champion soon, but it probably won't be the main attraction. I was just curious as Elyn is said to be basically naked in the update and wondered if Riot would actually allow a naked champio. Urgot anyone?
Ralanr1 votesWho said that?
Ralanr1 votesAn incoming gay champion.
Bultz1 votesAn incoming gay champion.
As far back as I can remember, Riot announced it or a rioter confirmed it. I don't remember where, but here is an article in which ghost talks about how if a character feels like they are gay, they will be gay. https://www.polygon.com/2017/3/28/15088916/league-of-legends-diversity-openly-gay-characters
LostFr0st4 votesFrom what I've gathered their stance is:
"if it makes sense for the champ/feels natural then it'll be there. They don't want to put it there for the sake of putting it there in a forced way."
Brutusness3 votesDiana is 100% gay. She wants her sunshine girl.
SickAnto1 votesIsn't true, it is much more likely that Diana will not endure it.
Eternal7911 votesI don't know how true this is, but I recall being told that a Rioter actually confirmed Diana to be homo/bisexual. But like I said, I don't know if its actually true.
AbiwonKenabi1 votesI think IronStylus, art designer of both Leona and Diana, said he was open to something like that. But seeing as he no longer works at Riot and it was never officially confirmed, we still don't know.
Zyranium2 votesI already heard that 
is bisexual plus in love with {{champion:89}
and 
might have a relationship together
and 
too, (I don't really know about them, btw 
and him were a couple)
And finally, a classic, and
We don't really need a gay champion tbh, it's not a need to have, but it wouldn't be so bad to have a real one, if they don't focus this champion in his/her sexuality...
Digielf1 votesI already heard that
We don't really need a gay champion tbh, it's not a need to have, but it wouldn't be so bad to have a real one, if they don't focus this champion in his/her sexuality...
Do Ezreal and Taric even know each other? I can't find any source that connects these 2 champions in any way, have they ever met at all.
Fasmodey1 votesI'm just curious about which champions are gay, as they already have confirmed that we have gay champions.
Will it be a surprise or something obvious?
Arakadia1 votesWhere did they confirm we have gay champions?
Fasmodey1 voteshttps://www.polygon.com/2017/3/16/14953540/league-of-legends-lgbt-characters-greg-street-interview
I mean, they say, ''we will eventually have a gay champion''. This can also mean one of next champions will be gay, which is not having a gay champion at the moment. But I don't think they will make this mistake when 60 of 136 champions might have sexuality.
I would rather have a gay champion among champions we have than one of next champions. It feels forced beyond and like saying ''We haven't got any gay champion, so get this next champion and shut your mouth, also fuck you''.
Arakadia1 votesOh okie. Thanks for the link.
Bultz1 votesI'm just curious about which champions are gay, as they already have confirmed that we have gay champions.
Will it be a surprise or something obvious?
They haven't confirmed it, but have said they intend to make a fully gay champion, but it probably won't be the main feature of the champion.
Lady Faceless1 votesAs far as I know, RIot will only talk about sexuality and co, if it's important for the story/champion design. Just look at our love-birds - Xayah and Rakan has been designed to cover the couple trope and still they aren't only reduce to their relationship, they have goals and personalities on their own. If you actually enjoy their personalities is a different question, tho. I'm all abord for a canon LGBTIAQ+ champion (with Jhin we actually do have on, but well... an psychopath isn't the best role model), but as long the character isn't reduce too it and it feels natural. We do actually got some canon LGBTIAQ+ mentions, however they aren't champions. Both stories felt well written, since this wasn't the main focus. X X
Krabohod1 votesIt was real shame that Riot killed the theory that Lux is gay. It would be good trope and it would be good correlation with her life journey as Demacian mage.
Also making Lux gay would be a good move from company perspective and PR perspective. Making one of your poster girls gay gives your company more audience approval. Also it makes LGBT community really proud and grants a good press coverage. Overwatch with Tracer case clearly showed that.
Bultz1 votesIt was real shame that Riot killed the theory that Lux is gay. It would be good trope and it would be good correlation with her life journey as Demacian mage.
Also making Lux gay would be a good move from company perspective and PR perspective. Making one of your poster girls gay gives your company more audience approval. Also it makes LGBT community really proud and grants a good press coverage. Overwatch with Tracer case clearly showed that.
No I don't think changing the identity of an already created champion is healthy as people who love that champion will be affected. It's like when they killed superman to make Asian Superman. Like nothing against Asian characters, but don't take someone else's identity or change it. If you want an Asian hero, make them unique, even if he has the same powers. Same thing with gay champions, make a unique gay champion, don't change someone else for marketing ploys.
Krabohod3 votesYou are talking about changing one character with another, I am talking about missed opportunity to further show the existing character.
The thing is we never knew of Lux's sexuality. It was mystery. Although her new lore kinda was the way that she could easily be gay. So making her gay wouldn't be change, it would be improvement. And it would be very intresting.
That's the same with Tracer. We just had not knew of her sexuality, Blizzard showed us she is gay and community appreciated it.
Also I'm not talking about making Lux gay only cause of marketing. It would be nice move character- and writing-wise and would be good for Marketing. It's just two birds with one stone.
some degenerate1 votesThe thing is we never knew of Lux's sexuality. It was mystery.
Except we did? Waaaay back during Lissandra's release and the ARAM map udate? We had lore text between Ezreal and Lux that replied romantic undertones in their relationship. You can even find official art for it. So while that doesn't confirm the possibility of Lux being bi, it's definite proof that she does have an interest in the opposite sex.
And even if Riot did release a gay champion, there's a chance I wouldn't give a damn anyway because I'm 99.9% certain said gay champ would end up being an attractive female. Because lesbians are the de-facto "easy mode" choice when it comes to LGBT representation in video games. And for good reason.
League of Legend's player base (or rather, the player bases for most competitive games in general) is mostly comprised of males. In League's case - the vast majority are heterosexual males in their teens-to-early 20's. So they're still at the ripe age where they get socially insecure over extremely stupid shit, like the potential sexualities of the fictional male characters they're playing as.
Lesbians get a pass in many popular games because a lot of straight guys think lesbians are "hot." It's win-win scenario for companies like Riot and Blizzard. Get that easy-to-earn "oh look at us we're so accepting! We're so tolerating and ahead of our time!" media coverage while subtly giving their teen and college student male players more fap material to work with in the process. (All in all, this business practice further ends up tarnishing and objectifying lesbians and women in a rather hypocritical and ironic manner.)
But if they made a male champion gay or bi? Let alone a popular male champion gay or bi? Heads will role among the player base, I guarantee it. For example: let' say that Riot decided to confirm the sexuality of one of their more iconic champions like Darius, Zed, Yasuo, Draven or etc. How do you think the vast majority of the guys who play or main these said champions would react? Harshly. Their popularity would most definitely see a considerable drop out of the fear and ridicule their straight male playerbases would get for playing them. Sure, Riot would get some media acknowledgement for taking such a risk, but at the cost of IMMENSELY pissing off their immature player base. There's no easy win-win scenario in it for them. So why bother, right?
So yeah, call me when either Riot or Blizzard has the balls to release or confirm an LGBT character that ISN'T an attractive female. Any male male champion, regardless of their popularity. THEN I'll be interested.
Lady Faceless3 votes[{quoted}](name=some degenerate,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=WFdbiwYt,comment-id=0006000000000000,timestamp=2017-06-27T03:38:20.831+0000)
Except we did? Waaaay back during Lissandra's release and the ARAM map udate? We had lore text between Ezreal and Lux that replied romantic undertones in their relationship. You can even find official art for it. So while that doesn't confirm the possibility of Lux being bi, it's definite proof that she does have an interest in the opposite sex.
However, pre- and post-retcom champion characteristics doesn't always stay the same. Just look at Leona, Vayne and Pantheon - their characters got completly rebooted into something else. Pantheon don't even HAVE a character aynmore.
Riot loves to tease the fans and let have us our theories and then crush them. So yeah, pre-retcom isn't really an evidence, I'm afraid.
And even if Riot did release a gay champion, there's a chance I wouldn't give a damn anyway because I'm 99.9% certain said gay champ would end up being an attractive female. Because lesbians are the de-facto "easy mode" choice when it comes to LGBT representation in video games. And for good reason.
While I agree, it probably would be a lesbian, it also would be great not having the classic Butch one. Also Riot loves to create sexy females, however Riot improved a lot in this area (see Jinx, Illaoi & Taliyah). I also remember the boards discussion, tho...
For example: let' say that Riot decided to confirm the sexuality of one of their more iconic champions like Darius, Zed, Yasuo, Draven or etc. How do you think the vast majority of the guys who play or main these said champions would react? Harshly. Their popularity would most definitely see a considerable drop out of the fear and ridicule their straight male playerbases would get for playing them. Sure, Riot would get some media acknowledgement for taking such a risk, but at the cost of IMMENSELY pissing off their immature player base. There's no easy win-win scenario in it for them. So why bother, right?
While you aren't wrong, I'm not fully agree with it. The most people who plays this game don't read/care for lore. The champion playrate would drop... for the moment. In the end they still would pick them up again, since the community loves their flashy, edgy champions and people will just straight ignore the sexuality of the champions.
However, as I said before, I don't wanna have a LGBTIAQ+ champion who is only reduce to it, I wanna have it as an addition. People enjoyed Tracer's character before they knew she was gay.
Also, we already had some canon LGBTIAQ+ characters (not champion) and nobody lost their minds, however a) their weren't champions and b) as I said, the most people don't read the lore anyway.
Fasmodey1 votesI agree first gay champion will be female, and after that, they will not give a damn for a long time.
RusselChambers1 votesI mean, Taric Exists
TerraRising1 votesGhostcrawler said at the last Game Developers Conference (GDC) that there will be an LGBT champion for League. To quote from a Polygon article.
“We owe it to the players and, I think, to the world to do something like that,” Ghostcrawler said. “What I don’t want to do is be like, ‘Okay, team, next character, whatever you do, has to be lesbian.’ I don’t think we’ll end up with something good there.... From the beginning, it has to be the character’s identity. I’m sure we’ll do it at some point. I don’t know which character or when it will happen.”
Nudity and sexual intimacy haven't really been addressed officially, unless you count that one drawing of Ahri in the Vastayan Field Journal. Even then, she's just taking a bath. There may have been hints of sexual tension in the old "Journals of Justice" between champions (including one jackass writer who wrote himself into a love triangle with Janna and Nidalee), but all of that was erased with the Great Retcon.
My question: Does it matter?
Moonboy651 votesI mean, 
can charm every single champion in existance so...
Captain Nemø1 votesNow that someone said it, and were really giving a very gay vibe in the new Bilgewater lore, and that what great (at least in my opinion).
Most of league champ where never confirmed heterosexual, or even cisgender, we only assumed they were. It wouldn't change a thing to have some champs make their comming out as gay, bi, asexual (so much champs doesn't give a f. about relationships and romance), pansexual (I think doesn't really mind the gender of the personn she's seducing for example) or transgender, non binary, neutral ect..
But sadly, I agree with what Some Degenerate said. And it also make me really sad. But Blizzard said they'll do more for the LBGT+ representation in the future, and did some other cool thing like confirming Symetra was autistic.
What I really fear is if they create a champ whose main personality trait were gay, trans.. ect.. people aren't just that, it can be important in their lore, but not the only thing about them (if some of you are familiar with Dragon Age, I think Dorian is a great example of a gay character, whose sexuality is important, for him, and in his story, but not the only thing about him to say).
But even if the majority of player are heterosexual males, it's not the only type of players here ! And a lot of them would be accepting, at least I hope. (outraged reactions about Tracer were sometimes as much funny as they were stupids...but people are still playing Overwatch)
But for now, with what we have in League, , is manly a target for jokes, and whatever is going on with is only inspiring people for more (rape, often..) jokes, not very interesting... but I think it's because there isn't really anything confirmed or even developped by Riot. (Give us a story about Taric remenbering times with a lover when he was young, before going to Mount Targon for example, give us something that will maybe stop him to be a caricature in people's mind and the target of jokes.)
Jaspers1 votesThere is an issue in fiction about having a gay character and IF it becomes the aspect of their character, because it shouldn't be (unless that's the point). What sexuality you are only comes into play if you are not straight for some reason, so gay characters end up being defined by being gay not being who they are and in a sense, I'd hope Riot's lore team never really mentions the sexuality of characters (outside of the Garen x Kat thing, they should expand on that).
Other than Ranak and Xayah as well... being a couple kind of spells that one out.
Captain Nemø1 votesWell, then if their sexuality is never mentioned, they are heterosexual "by default".
But in real life, there is diversity everywhere. Sure, gay people, for example, are not the majority, but they exist, they're not just 1% of the population. If league can have a celestial god like 
, then it can also affords at least a little bit more representation.
And that's what LGBT+ people stands for, more representation. And not just caricatures. I personnally think it's important to put diversity in games (orientation, color, ect..), because there isn't a "default", when I look at people in the street, everyone is different. And some fictional characters, even if not defined by their sexuality, have their heterosexuality all over the place. We don't need a big "HEY THIS CHAMP IS GAY LOOK AT THEM OMG" from Riot. Just something like in Overwatch, Tracer is having a Christmas time with the one important to her heart, her girlfriend, that's all, no big deal, no inner monologue on her sexuality, she's just enjoying time with her lover !
Xayah and Rakan love each others, Lucian had wife, Garen and Kat have a crush on each others ect... things like that with LBGT champs would'nt be different, neither forced, out of place or too much. (Taric remenbering an old lover, Cait and Vi spending an afternoon together and playfuly taunting each other on manners, or taste in tea, idk or Graves and Tf having some Bilgewater adventures....)
