So did Riven master the Wind Technique or not ?

AquariusGine·Jan 6, 2015·6 votes·10,439 views

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According to the lore, only Yasuo mastered the legendary wind technique, under the guidance of the 'master'. However, Riven is the only other one who was capable of using it (to kill the master).

My friend and I disagree on something, he says Riven's technique is not complete (hence broken wings) and I say she mastered it. She just executes it differently.

So which of us was right? Looking for answers from people who keep up with the lore

19 Comments

InvalidGuestJan 6, 20156 votes

When Yasuo sees riven use Broken Wings (Q) - "Hm, Three swift strikes"

Note yasuo's ult also uses three swift stikes

Also apparently they both use a "wind blade"

"Another wind blade??"

When he sees riven use Wind Slash (R+R)

he says "Who taught you that??" in a surprised tone

Note in the lore it doesn't say "the ONLY to master it"

It says "Yasuo was the only student in a generation to master the legendary wind technique"

riven could have been from a different generation of students I suppose

So i'm guessing she did master the technique in one form or another . . .

edit: so apparently all of my links are broken. rito games inc is on to me.

SmokinSickStyleJan 6, 20154 votes

"Another wind blade??"

My theory about Riven's quite unique abilities even before Yasuo was even hinted of, was, that her actual power, not only resides into the skill of using quite an heavy sword like that, but also into the fact that her blade is essentially a MAGICAL one, directly from her lore:

"So exceptional was her passion that the High Command recognized her with a black stone rune sword forged and enchanted with Noxian sorcery"

So her "wind" tecniques are just a replication of this powerful Ionian sword style, just with a bit of ol' magic.

That's why Yasuo is so surprised, he's noticed how different yet so similiar her fighting style is to the Wind tecnique, her being a Noxian that fought into Ionia's war is also something Yasuo is curious about.

This means that Riven, with a replica of her sword but without the blackstone rune material + enchantment cannot use the same abilities as she currently can.

She's just an exceptional soldier who has a very fancy sword.

GapyboJan 6, 20152 votes

I agree, Riven powers come from her sword. I bet she has no idea what a wind technique is and is no where near mastering it.

Cale017Jan 6, 20153 votes

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"Another wind blade??"

My theory about Riven's quite unique abilities even before Yasuo was even hinted of, was, that her actual power, not only resides into the skill of using quite an heavy sword like that, but also into the fact that her blade is essentially a MAGICAL one, directly from her lore:

"So exceptional was her passion that the High Command recognized her with a black stone rune sword forged and enchanted with Noxian sorcery"

So her "wind" tecniques are just a replication of this powerful Ionian sword style, just with a bit of ol' magic.

That's why Yasuo is so surprised, he's noticed how different yet so similiar her fighting style is to the Wind tecnique, her being a Noxian that fought into Ionia's war is also something Yasuo is curious about.

This means that Riven, with a replica of her sword but without the blackstone rune material + enchantment cannot use the same abilities as she currently can.

She's just an exceptional soldier who has a very fancy sword.

Similar, yes.

Isn't it just uncanny the way she can dash through multiple enemies while building up damage, send blades of wind at them from afar every few seconds, and stop projectiles dead in their tracks with a gust of wind that's just THAT powerful.

I wouldn't even go so far as to say that they're similar, dude. The only "similarity" that there might be is that her ult has "wind" in the name. They state pretty clearly, like you said, that her sword is the source of her power. Yasuo's learned how to harness the wind beyond just using a sword to send strikes over a distance. She isn't using a wind technique, she's using a runic sword that lets her expel energy with strikes. Nothing more, nothing less.

The similarities are only going as far as the half baked members of the community want them to. They actually start and stop at her ult.

MotajoJan 6, 20151 votes

{quoted}The similarities are only going as far as the half baked members of the community want them to. They actually start and stop at her ult.

Hell, Wind Slash is probably just as similar, if not more so, to Excessive Force (Vi's E). Both are waves of force extending past their respective weapon's usual range. Those waves just seem to be made of different stuff: Riven's is ambiguous ki/runic power; Vi's is debris. Riven and Vi use mostly strength or power for theirs. Yasuo uses strange sword-thwapping and yells gibberish for his technique.

Cale017Jan 6, 20156 votes

Have you considered that Riven's abilities aren't based on the same teachings as Yasuo's? Given that her upbringing seems almost militant, I doubt she had the time to go off and train with some reclusive hermit master of wind techniques. On top of that, if she were using the same sort of techniques that Yasuo employs she would be much less about brute force and much more about finesse. She even utilizes Ki, a spiritual power that has absolutely nothing to do with any kind of wind techniques, to deal a burst of damage radiating out from her and, from what it looks like to me, as her shield and what she uses to dash forwards when using it.

Riven is many things, but she is far from dainty about how she goes about dealing out retribution to those who tower dive her. She's brutal, unrelenting, and while she may appear mobile that's only because her abilities are literally throwing her around through brute force, not because she's flowing with the wind to move.

So far as I can tell, Yasuo is surprised to see someone using techniques that resemble the teachings that he went through, but nothing more. Riven isn't really the type to have killed a master for no reason given that it's the mass loss of life during the war that made her abandon her own people in the first place. She's against the senseless loss of life, and she has respect for those who fight honorably. She would have no reason to kill Yasuo's master.

The much more likely story is that it has something to do with Ao Shin, the yet unreleased wind dragon champion that was teased at about two years ago. Plenty of champions say special things around other champions that have nothing to do with lore and more to do with their personality. Gnar will mock a Garen by shouting out "DEMAGLIO" but he isn't an enemy of Demacia, he's just having fun.

Yasuo is just noticing some odd similarities between his own style and Riven's. I'd be surprised if he didn't, but with Riven a fallen warrior seeking redemption the idea of her taking the life of an old master doesn't sit well in my opinion.

MotajoJan 6, 20154 votes

{quoted}Yasuo is just noticing some odd similarities between his own style and Riven's. I'd be surprised if he didn't, but with Riven a fallen warrior seeking redemption the idea of her taking the life of an old master doesn't sit well in my opinion.

This post warms my gut.

Sneak DogJan 6, 20152 votes

Yasuo is just noticing some odd similarities between his own style and Riven's. I'd be surprised if he didn't, but with Riven a fallen warrior seeking redemption the idea of her taking the life of an old master doesn't sit well in my opinion.

From the way Yasuo wonders, I think he is more suspicious of the one who taught her than Riven herself.

DropFillJan 6, 20154 votes

Riven ult is not a "wind" technique, just read her ult. Riven just uses the stored energy on her sword that she used to reforms it. The name is just "wind slash" , but it has nothing to do with wind. She just throws the magical energy that was stored on her sword.

nevissAug 15, 20171 votes

It is still needed the know of the Wind Technic to unleash the power of the sword.

Ebonmaw DragonAug 15, 20171 votes

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It is still needed the know of the Wind Technic to unleash the power of the sword.

Dude... this thread is from THREE YEARS AGO

Anyways, the power of Riven comes from the runes of her sword, not herself.

nevissSep 12, 20171 votes

For some reason I still can't believe she killed the Elder

nevissSep 12, 20171 votes

and It's still a wind Technic

MotajoJan 6, 20153 votes

Why the hell do people want to ship them?

Actually, I'm not sure I want the answer...

Riven uses Ki, and just happens to have the word "wind" in her ultimate. Ability names aren't necessarily literal. Veigar doesn't create the universe (nor a black hole) whenever he bursts somebody, that is not the last time Lux will use her laser, the sands are not actually angry, Sion is easily hindered by the nearest bolted object, etc.

Crescendo might be technically correct, though.

Cale017Jan 6, 20151 votes

{quoted}

Why the hell do people want to ship them?

Actually, I'm not sure I want the answer...

Riven uses Ki, and just happens to have the word "wind" in her ultimate. Ability names aren't necessarily literal. Veigar doesn't create the universe (nor a black hole) whenever he bursts somebody, that is not the last time Lux will use her laser, the sands are not actually angry, Sion is easily hindered by the nearest bolted object, etc.

Crescendo might be technically correct, though.

Because the internet.

CharQueenJan 6, 20152 votes

Riven has not mastered the winds. Have you seen her flailing movements?

Stars ShaperJan 6, 20151 votes

From what we can see as facts Riven skill seems raw and somehow bound to the runic power of the sword plus her ability to swing it while Yasuo has a refined style which doesn't only use wind power with swings but his whole body.

Terra BoomaJan 6, 20151 votes

Yup, let's all blame Riven, the Soldier who would be better used commanding troops then assassinating some elder

Just ignore that one ASSASSIN that has the ability to COPY people

Totally Riven, couldn't be annnnybody else. There's no way the Black Rose could have mimicked wind magic somehow, not at all! Not like a certain person can imitate people easily, noooope