[Tematics and Lore discussion] - Mordekaiser

Decrit··4 votes·1,771 views

Hi all! I am a big Morde fan and i want to talk about his lore and thematical cohesion. At the beginning i bought Morde because i... eh, because i like metal. Pretty much a shallow reason, i agree. The biggest focus of this post is how storytelling, lore, aspects, particles, art and all can better find a solution in the case of Mordekaiser, and is not focused on what actually is his lore.

Morde is weird. Metal dude in a clad iron armor, take that away and what remains? An undead. That spams metal magics. And that probably is just a Wraith possessing/cointained in an armor. Then you look at the lore and you see stuff like suffering, soulstealing and maladies. Maladies.

Even the skill reasoning is a bit off: he generates metal and attaches it to his own armor/body/vessel in order to better resist the enemy, or he uses his own body as resource material for his magics ( thing that is associated with health costs. he also regenerates metal? ) and uses the metal scraps for temporary backup; either way it' s pretty much reasonable, it' s magic, so is Mace of Spades and Creeping Death while making maces of steel appear from the ground to hit the enemy seems really and really off. The only thing that makes you think about him as an undead his is ultimate, and it is pretty much reasonable because probably he does what in life did/wanted to do, and his situation as an undead of some sorts does not define how he wants to use his powers but instead is merely a condition with few power opportunities.

But if you see the bigger picture, you see a champion that wants to be "metal" at all costs and so few speaks of his beign an undead, wraith or what is, and that it is incoherent of what you expect in any case.

I like the metal identity, it' s a bit of a joke but it is a "serious" joke, but i would like that to clash (heh) better with his undead iron juggernaut he is.

How do you see him more? Take consideration that probably Pentakill Mordekaiser is just a "what if" alternate story situation, with a different Mordekaiser in a different situation and all.

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Hoi Im Temmo3 votes

He is likely one of the rework/complete overhaul targets in the reboot. Wait a few months for the shadow Isle restart and see if you still feel the same way about him.

Decrit1 votes

I doubt they are going to "restart" the shadow isles, since they are new and done with the current lore in mind. Or did you wanted just to say "when the shadow isels lore will kick in again"?

Aniway i feel it is constructive to discuss about this stuff: when time shall come the community can give a better feedback thanks to a better constructed and consolidated opinions, and eventually the artists can get feedback over past/current discussions like this.

Plus i wanna talk about Morde :c ( obv I opened like 3 threads today >_> )

Hoi Im Temmo2 votes

Oh, I understand, morde is one of my favorite champions :D What I meant is that we know he has be slated for a complete overhaul from the sound of things.

Regardless, he is currently in limbo between a simple force of the Shadow Isles....and some great general of innumerable undead legions (OH GOD YES) One of the best quotes, that is sadly no longer cannon (cries): "The common perception is that the encompassing armor protects him, I fear that – for the fragile time being – it actually protects us." ―Rozuel Fecirem, Arch Adjudicator, noted in Mordekaiser's eligibility evaluation"

Basically, the idea is that the armor he wears binds him from his full power, it serves no useful purpose for him.

Decrit2 votes

I passed between 3 Mordekaiser splash arts, so i remember that one well xD However is really speculated if he is for the Shadow Isles - or is just forced to serve them, looking at the altar quotes of Twisted Treeline. As far as we know he is a wraith, a some kind of vengeful ghost, that is enacsed/trapped in an armor. Probably he lost much of his powers this way, wathever those could be, and so he decided to use the same armor that traps him as a weapon for the time beign. However they also said that his touch brings maladies, so probably his bare essence is bringer of doom and as such contained in the armor for protecting those he is fighting for, again willing or not.

A commander of an undead legion.... o i hope so, even if i see more Hecarim at his place Riot said that Morde and Heca share a common goal, with the same tools but with different means.

speculation speculation

Hoi Im Temmo2 votes

One thing that a LOT of people miss about the shadow isles:

Elise: Greed Evelynn: Lust Hecarim: Wrath Karthus: Pride Mordekaiser: Emvy Thresh: Gluttony Yorick: Sloth

Proof: Elise is constantly seeking greater power, and to gain it, she keeps tricking her followers into coming to the shadow isles. Evelynn.....I don't feel the need to go over this one..... Hecarim, literally, the "Shadow of War" Karthus spent all his life looking for immortality and willingly gave up his life and humanity for it Thresh literaly hungers for ever more souls Yorick summons servants to do his bidding for him.

So that leaves mordekaiser, and "envy" - and mordekaiser has the least information to be gleaned from his lore. So lets look at these two things instead: A) We know mordekaiser to be trapped by the shadow isles. Further, we know that some of the shadow isles trust him, but a number of them hold him to be dangerous. Likely, he does what he can to further his own goals rather than those of his captors. B) His name literally translates to "Murder King" - which can mean two things as well: either he is literally the king of murder (ok, fairly accurate) or he actually murdered a king, something you basically do to gain the power of the guy you killed. Rather envious, no?

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SecretLore2 votes

Overall he seems to be the evil Overlord of LoL,but with metal powers. His Q,W,E represent him being the metal mage of the game,while his ult is based on him being the overlord who enslaves your soul. Being undead is more like an added bonus to his character,it is nothing that defines him,it is just an additional part of him(you could see him as a walking suit of armor though),I mean you could make him alive and his character wouldn't really change at all.

So in the end I'd say concept wise he is fine. He combines two archetypes not present in any other champ.He actually reminds me a bit of azir who is a combination of sand mage and emporer,just replace sand with metal and emporer with overlord(and Ra-expy with Sauron-expy) and you've got mordes basic concept

Decrit2 votes

Weeell, i don't see him very much as the magic overlord as you say, frankly. I mean we don' t even know if he is actually a commander or warlord of sorts, it' s just hinted by his somewhat royal and imposing posture and nothing else; even if, to be honest, i would not be surprised to see a retconnection/clarification where is discovered that Mordekaiser is the former lord of the Shadow Isles before their fall, however what it is now is maybe a commander, but surely not a king . I agree beign undead is secondary, and i also said that because it' s not shown very much. His characterization is really dispersful: he needs to be a bit more concentrated in order to give a better depth. Now, we think about two different Mordes but i see your point and is not really bad, maybe a point in-between is the best choice, however it needs to be clear and defined.

AFK Push2 votes

I myself am a metalhead, but I don't think Mordekaiser needs to be nothing but a heavy metal reference. Sure keep in some of his jokes and audio that hints towards that, but he needs to be more serious. In my post, I talked about how the armor itself has to mean something to his lore. Thematically it doesn't make sense for the lord of pain/murder to be imprisoned in a giant armor set. We need more lore on who he was before he died, and became an undead. We need that clarification to why he has the armor, and why was he the very first undead?

Decrit1 votes

I was thinking something on the lines of Sion: they remodeled everything and removed schwarzenegger references in order to make him more serious, but then they added some inside jokes because total seriousness is not league business. after all >_>

I agree on what he is, however i don' t think that the armor/metal identity can be discarded because is a reality so much attached to his identity, even more than the "suffering" or "undead" thing, that atm are his only avenues to have a reasonable place and evolve intrestingly!

I see him more like being born as a tool, like they tried to infuse souls in an armor that then breaked on his will and since did not knew nothing but to deal suffering he developed his identity in that, becoming only later what he is...

AFK Push2 votes

I was thinking something on the lines of Sion: they remodeled everything and removed schwarzenegger references in order to make him more serious, but then they added some inside jokes because total seriousness is not league business. after all >_>

I agree on what he is, however i don' t think that the armor/metal identity can be discarded because is a reality so much attached to his identity, even more than the "suffering" or "undead" thing, that atm are his only avenues to have a reasonable place and evolve intrestingly!

I see him more like being born as a tool, like they tried to infuse souls in an armor that then breaked on his will and since did not knew nothing but to deal suffering he developed his identity in that, becoming only later what he is...

I don't think they will be making a Shadow Isle champion a failed experiment, for the sake of consistency. He needs a story of who he was before he died. Maybe some towering giant who wore this armor set, and was feared across the land.

Decrit2 votes

Not necessarly an experiment... The album Smite and Ignite, while was not produced with in mind either the SI rework or champions ones has some intresting lyrics that picture well Mordekaiser. One of them mostly is Thornmail, that sings of an enchanted armor that will protect a warrior ( called "son" in the song) from and horde of enemies at their castle, right after their king dies of unexplained consequences.

just speculation aniway >_>

AFK Push1 votes

I myself am a metalhead, but I don't think Mordekaiser needs to be nothing but a heavy metal reference. Sure keep in some of his jokes and audio that hints towards that, but he needs to be more serious. In my post, I talked about how the armor itself has to mean something to his lore. Thematically it doesn't make sense for the lord of pain/murder to be imprisoned in a giant armor set. We need more lore on who he was before he died, and became an undead. We need that clarification to why he has the armor, and why was he the very first undead?

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