Who should join the Fit Girls Club?

Chromatic Eagle··9 votes·1,618 views

With Sejuani receiving splash updates depicting her as built, and Riot's recent blog on sex appeal, I've been thinking about which champions could be visualized as more muscular if or when they receive a splash update.

For me personally, I find it odd that a skinny woman like Jinx can carry so many weapons, but that's a part of her appeal. I also wouldn't mind if Shyvana was a little more toned, but she's a dragon lady so she probably doesn't need the muscles. I know people expect Vi to be built, but while I'm not opposed to it, feel that her gloves do most of the heavy lifting.

Also this is totally not an attempt to get some E X T R A T H I C C memes rolling.

43 Comments

Malicious Metal12 votes

Riven

Sharjo3 votes

You don't get to wield a giant sword like that without building some actual muscles.

Chromatic Eagle3 votes

Or bounce around like a damn bunny.

Thefrostyviking3 votes

She uses this funny "magical but not quite" energy called ki for it.

It's not magic but it has magical effects and apparently fighters in the lol universe like to train it.

Not sure but i think Lee, yasuo, the 4 ninjas and Irelia are supposed to be doing it too.

AbiwonKenabi1 votes

I think Karma, too. It's in a lot of styles from Ionia it seems.

Only Play Darius2 votes

That's why she can only hold the complete sword for a few seconds

SpookyNeedle1 votes

No it's a lore related reason, her sword used to be that big originally. Not sure if you were joking

Only Play Darius1 votes

It's a joke

Draclen10 votes

While the gauntlets may do the smashing you have to realize, Vi still has to carry them, and they sure as Hell don't look light. I'd be willing to bet she's pretty fit.

Fondling Gems3 votes

Pretty sure there is some stuff going on there since her gauntlets weigh over 2 tons.... each.

Chromatic Eagle1 votes

Do they? When was that stated?

Fondling Gems1 votes

It is semi-official, but not actually confirmed cannon. During a skin/champ sale they were doing a whole boxing introduction for a bunch of themed champions and said this for Vi:

Innnnn the blue corner, with a record of 5-1-0 and weighing in at 8,140 lbs, she's here tonight to defend her LoL Punkweight belt. Wearing what appear to be highly illegal gloves, she's the Piltover piledriver, the first lady of force, the assault artiste, here comes... VI! 487 RP

AbiwonKenabi2 votes

I always thought her shoulder pads and her chest area looked like the same material as her gauntlets, so they were part of some kind of support system that distributed the weight and force across her body. She even has some kind of engine on back in her model, which may assist in movement.

Sharjo8 votes

I would've said Sivir honestly. Shyvana too. Gimme them toned Shuriman and dragon abbs.

Chromatic Eagle4 votes

I for one welcome a thick desert princess.

Ralanr6 votes

Vi, Leona, Diana, Irelia, Quinn, Fiora, Akali, and Katarina (I'd also argue Illaoi but she is club president).

Obviously not all need to be as abtastic as Sejuani, but more muscle and different types of muscle builds should be shown.

I'm talking gymnastics level muscle for some.

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Chromatic Eagle1 votes

I think Quinn's an ok size, at least her Woad skin is. Vayne is someone who should have Goku abs.

Ralanr1 votes

Oh right, I guess Vayne would have abs.

woodvsmurph4 votes

Irelia? She was a teenage girl who could magically unlock the power in her father's weapon. She was not some buff girl smashing people with pure steel. Think Ip Man more than Braveheart. Kinda ruins her story by making her some wrestle mania lady in terms of physique. Quinn? Um, just no. She's a scout. She uses a bow - not a sword or spear or mace. Stealth, swiftness, precise shooting - not smashing people's faces in. Fiora? She's a duelist. A fencer. Fit? Yes. Ripped? No. Katarina? A gymnast body sure. But not all the male or creature (khaz, cho'gath for examples) have well-defined muscular features either. Some definitely do, but not all.

Ralanr3 votes

Have you seen Quinn's vault? That requires some serious muscle.

Chromatic Eagle1 votes

Khaz is like a chimeric insect, and Cho' needs a vgu anyway.

Warlord Dienekes4 votes

Bows require more strength than most melee weapons.

You have to pull back the string which has a lot of weight behind it. The average warbow had a draw weight of around 50-70 lbs while the really big longbows like the kind Ashe is using had a draw weight of 90-120 lbs. they required so much muscle mass that we can tell on the corpses of English soldiers who used a longbow because they distorted the shoulder and back under their weight.

So really, Ashe should be the most muscular gal in the game. Quinn decently toned as well.

woodvsmurph1 votes

They don't currently show extra muscle/tone for "fit" characters male or female. They only show for overly muscly characters. Thus a "gymnast" doesn't get muscles shown. Quinn uses a crossbow yes? You can use all sorts of mechanics with that to make is very simple and require minimal effort to load and shoot. Repeating crossbow, crossbow pulled by hand, crossbow loaded via crank and lever, etc. Some of these hardly required any effort and certainly did not make their users ripped. As for ashe - I am a huge fan of longbows and know this info. Ashe's bow is magical and this MAY or MAY NOT mean she needs the same strength you do for a longbow in our world.

As for melee weapons requiring less effort. 1. Melee also wear very heavy armor (in Runeterra sure it can be enchanted and maybe weigh less - similar to quinn or ashe bows being easier to shoot). 2. Lifting a sword or axe is not the issue; swinging it effectively so that you have the right angle and power to kill is the issue and requires more effort than one would expect. 3. Garen does 1-handed pushups in his full armor while completely upside down and does so with no apparent effort. Knights actually did stuff similar to this back in the Middle Ages. They could perform all sorts of feats (including shooting a bow with great accuracy from horseback); they just preferred lances, swords, and axes. In fact, you didn't fight other knights in actual combat with swords because their armor could not be easily pierced by a sword. Axes gave you more cleaving power to break through armor. Maces and similar weapons were used because you would just crush the armor in around a knight and essentially bludgeon him to death. Pikes and halberds (spear crossed with pike) worked similar to axes - giving you actual killing power vs a highly armored enemy. So if we examine things this way... champs like garen or darius would be doubly muscular since they probably shoot bow AND use their melee weapons.[slayer-jinx-unamused]

Warlord Dienekes1 votes

Most warplate topped out at around 60-70 lbs distributed all along their body. That's nothing like repeatedly firing a longbow using your arms. Now, tourney plate could get a bit heavier (100 lbs is the absolutely heaviest I've seen) than that, but that's tourney plate, you aren't really expected to even move with that on you. But it can take a lance to the face like no ones business.

Mate, I am an active HEMA participant. I know damn well how much strength is required to actually swing a sword around. Not that much, surprisingly. Swords are really light, longswords were usually around 2.5-3.5 lbs (as were most maces and axes). Now the gargantuan zweihanders were admittedly quite a bit bigger, but even they were about 8 lbs (a bit heavier than the Dane Axe), usually a little less. What is true, is that pikes and other polearms were quite a bit heavier, usually around 10-15 lbs, and importantly, weren't really used by the knightly classes all too much. Those were soldiers weapons, meant to be used in a formation. You weren't really supposed to swing those around consistently, the pike (I think you mean spear crossed with an axe, you said spear crossed with a pike) you just hold in front of you, or set it with your foot, while the halberd you hold out in front of you and occasionally make a scrapping motion with. Now, the pole-axe was far more nimble, but they topped out at around 8 lbs as well. Strength really isn't as important as most people think. What is important is endurance. So important, seriously, your shoulder will feel like it's going to fall off because you get so tired.

While firing a 100 lb warbow requires strength, pure brute strength. Especially if you're actually pulling the thing back all the way (most people don't go back far enough, admittedly, they're not using period appropriately long arrows) much less shooting the thing repeatedly for an entire battle. It simply requires more arm and shoulder muscle power than melee weapons do, even when including armor. And we can verify this, in period texts we know the English had a problem with longbowmen washing out because they grew too weak to fire their weapons consistently. This really didn't happen with the normal soldiers, and many of the longbowmen then just got downgraded to a pikeman.

Now we do have knightly bows on record. The ones I've seen topped out with a draw-weight of 60 lbs. They did not use English longbows on horseback. Smaller, easier bows to aim while moving, just trying to get the full draw out of a longbow on horseback would be perplexing.

Now, we do have records of knights who were also longbowmen. English, obviously, who are mentioned as being in charge of various units of longbowmen in battle. They were not riding into battle on horseback with their melee weapons and armor. And that makes sense, knight is a title, not a military position (though the two do most often go hand in hand).

I would also note that by the rise of full-plate, axes (that weren't pole-axes or halberds) fell out of favor because they really couldn't break the armor anymore. They worked decently well against mail armor, which is why the Dane Axe was so popular leading up to plate. But if you read the treatises, you see that weapons like the pole-axe and halberd had the axe sections not really to deal with the guys wearing the full-plate, but everyone else.

So, ignoring magic, because that just makes everything wonky and nonsensical. Strongest champions should still be Ashe and Varus. I'll give you Quinn probably isn't up there in strength, after watching her animations it looks like she isn't reloading her crossbow. Which instead seems to have some sort of magazine, I guess like a cross between a Zhuge crossbow and a modern rifle. No idea how they'd get that to work, but, I'm not going down that line of thinking.

Gehco1 votes

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Irelia? She was a teenage girl who could magically unlock the power in her father's weapon. She was not some buff girl smashing people with pure steel. Think Ip Man more than Braveheart. Kinda ruins her story by making her some wrestle mania lady in terms of physique. Quinn? Um, just no. She's a scout. She uses a bow - not a sword or spear or mace. Stealth, swiftness, precise shooting - not smashing people's faces in. Fiora? She's a duelist. A fencer. Fit? Yes. Ripped? No. Katarina? A gymnast body sure. But not all the male or creature (khaz, cho'gath for examples) have well-defined muscular features either. Some definitely do, but not all.

so does quinn have a gymnasts body? She does vault a lot. vault being a gymnast ability.

GreenLore1 votes

Well before Irelia unlocked the ability to use her fathers weapon,she did fight with swords the regular way.

Ravenhale2 votes

I'm hesitant to see Irelia on this list. I don't really have this strong impression that she was anything special prior to the battle in her home town. And after that skirmish, she develops this art of fighting with her mind without need to further strengthen her body. I suppose you could say she would be one from the "gymnast" category, since her judgment definitely indicates she is agile. But I don't know if any of her judgment will remain canon.

Heck, if I had my way with Irelia's lore, she wouldn't have been much of anything and there would be no Starchild Intervention. Instead... Irelia made a pact with her Father's Weapon which is one of these rumored Darkin, thus making her the Will of the Blades.

SickAnto4 votes

Kayle maybe with her full rework.

Kàyle2 votes

Gross. While she's armored, her helm represents purity. I wouldn't say ripped, but i wouldn't say zyra level either :/

Arcus Diabolus1 votes

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Kayle maybe with her full rework.

Kayle gets a buy imo. She's a magical being. She can look delicate while being as inhumanly strong as your imagination will let it.

Meep Man3 votes

Vi, Ashe (a little), Riven, Leona, Diana, Shyvana, and maybe Trist.

woodvsmurph2 votes

Camille those thighs gotta be huge for all her kicking Illaoi Riven can be "fit" but should not be ripped - sure she uses a giant sword, but her gameplay is more that of a fighter than some hulking brute like sion Vi similar to riven - she's strong, but her gloves are what puts her over the top - someone who works out regularly and is very well toned

Ralanr8 votes

Camille is mostly machine though.

woodvsmurph1 votes

Yes and there are bicycles, mountain bikes, and mountain bikes with giant tires. When comparing bicycles, camille is the mountain bike with giant tires (thighs/legs).

SolarisCorvus2 votes

Cammiles entire lower body is hextech im oretty sure.

Eternal7912 votes

Honestly I think Jinx may have some unnatural strength from being experimented on. Plus I don't want her visuals to change at all. She's perfect as she is. In the Origins blog about Jinx, they also said they intentionally made look super skinny with big weapons.

Milla Jovovich1 votes

Annie

Kappa

Valaran Nara3 votes

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Annie

Kappa

Reksai. Needs to be extra-extra thicc.

Awhegark1 votes

Ezreal.

Violet Fields1 votes

Illaoi

Arcus Diabolus1 votes

Mostly Vi and Riven. There are some others, but those two are the notable ones.

AcidTheWarlock1 votes

Why be thicc when you can be sticc?

mr Boombastic7871 votes

I would want Leona, Vi and Shyvana should be more buff, not like Illaoi but like Sejuani

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