If Noxus conquered Ionia then they'd gain a big advantage in magical warfare.

Ralanr··7 votes·1,031 views

So you know how magic in Runeterra is rare? Well based on Tristana's story, magic is a lot less rare in Ionia. It is in fact infused with the land (and the result is that it makes their fish great). Because of this, the population of Ionia is basically basking themselves in magical "radiation" meaning that they're more likely to have magically capable people born their.

But it's not just a more magical population, but also a higher amount of magical experts and teachers to notice this stuff and teach it. I'm talking about the temples where people like Karma studied. Schools where people studied ancient traditions that were magical in nature. The magical populations of other regions are probably cut drastically because there are fewer people to actually notice and train these abilities. Just look at Shurima.

Before Azir was made in a bird betrayed, it seemed that Shurima had access to texts or the knowledge to flourish magic. Whether Xerath could naturally cast magic and just learned more through them or these texts could teach magic to anyone I'm not sure. But the knowledge did exist.

Fast forward to present Shurima, and the most modern mage is Taliyah who is scared of her powers and has to go to another nation (and then ends up getting better lessons in Ionia) to be taught.

Magic is rare because of a small magically gifted population and a lack of teachers. This is for everywhere outside of Ionia because they have both.

So if Noxus actually conquered Ionia, then they'd get access to not only a bunch of magical land that could give birth to future noxian mages, but also a bunch of teachings that they could utilize for their own purposes. Funnily enough, Noxus is probably the second closest nation to being magically inclined (ignoring the shadow isles and the void for obvious reasons) because their capital is built from the fortress of an ancient conquerer who had a mastery of dark magics. So if Ionia was conquered, the Black Rose may have tried to combine the two forms of magic (and possibly corrupt the very land of Ionia in the process). Making Noxus even more dangerous because they just gained a whole new advantage over everyone else.

Just a thought.

Off topic: interesting to note that most mages in league seem to be self taught. Further indicating the lack of magical teachings in Runeterra.

10 Comments

Sharjo1 votes

They had a great opportunity too: Piltover made it possible to conquer new tertitories and accumulate resources faster from across the Empire's reach, plus it incentivized Noxus to buff its navy. Invading Ionia was the next logical step.

Ralanr1 votes

And as a result of their failure they have made a quiet and peace nation with incredible magic potential start to consider using their magic for more than just meditation.

Jhin is an example of how scary Ionia can become.

Rebonack1 votes

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And as a result of their failure they have made a quiet and peace nation with incredible magic potential start to consider using their magic for more than just meditation.

Jhin is an example of how scary Ionia can become.

Given that Ionia is a whole continent now I can't help but find the whole 'oh everyone was peaceful and nice before the Fire Nation Noxus attacked' line very convincing. Not least of all because the parts of the real world Ionia draws inspiration from has history just as bloody as every other part of the planet. Sounds like Ionian propaganda to me.

Ralanr1 votes

Most likely since we have groups fracturing. It's possible that Ionia wasn't fully peaceful but had a bunch of steady truces with different groups and had to force unlikely alliances when Noxus invaded.

We don't actually know how long the Noxus invasion/occupation lasted anyway in the new lore.

Sharjo1 votes

Something I always draw back to from Ionia's universe page:

There are many orders and sects across Ionia, each following their own (often conflicting) paths and ideals.

I'd imagine that Ionia had anything but peace in its past. Perhaps not all out warfare but certainly not peace and prosperity for all. I mean hell they have demons and other spirit world entities to deal with. You don't get folks like Ninjas, Wuju Blademasters and Windblade users from living in a wholly peaceful land.

Ultîma1 votes

My personnal belief is that, being that Vladimir, Swain and Leblanc are pulling the strings of the Noxian Empire (all of whom are powerful mages), that they are hoarding the secrets for themselves to secure their place at the top of the Noxian hierarchy. That is not to say they haven't used magic before; Sion is a product of Vladimir's magic. I also wouldn't be surprised if Swain used his powers to assume direct control of the battles he takes a part in.

Ralanr1 votes

It is no surprise that the Black Rose hoards a lot of magical secrets. Though beyond Sion I'm not really sure how common magic is used in Noxian warfare.

Sharjo1 votes

I'd say as much as they use as much as they can get their hands on. Generals were basically drooling over Taliyah's magical powers when she ventured in to Noxus.

Rebonack1 votes

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I'd say as much as they use as much as they can get their hands on. Generals were basically drooling over Taliyah's magical powers when she ventured in to Noxus.

With that in mind, and the fact that Annie's family was originally from Noxus, I'm left to wonder how her Lore will end up being updated. Maybe her family is going to get rolled in with the Black Rose? I know Riot is probably going to be scrapping 'The Voodoo Lands'.

Sharjo5 votes

I could imagine that Annie's family might actually be non magical in the new canon and, fearing that Noxus would try and weaponize their daughter, fled and raised her in secret.

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