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I love Vayne's new lore. I just wish she had more depth.

Blood Magicks·3/23/2017, 8:33:50 PM·36 votes·5,230 views

Vayne's new story and lore are a pleasure to read. She's so much more fleshed out, more real and way darker than before, in a disturbing but fascinating way. She's the darker side of Demacia we begged to see and she's more Batman than Van Helsing now, which is also nice.

http://i.imgur.com/QK5MsUd.jpg

I just have one little wish: I wish she were bigger, cleverer and more important than a single minded vengeance-focused monster gore fetishist:

  • I wish her stories focused on the cunning and intelligence she used to get where she is. I'm not sure it's even implied: in her short story she straight up Vaynes out.

  • I wish she had more vision: I wish she wasn't living her life to risk it for the next kill but instead carefully planned the eradication of the dark arts

  • I wish this made her politically involved, and there was a highly-upvoted earlier thread about her unfinished business with the Black Rose from the old lore: Regarding the upcoming Vayne lore and some things left unfinished from the Journal of Justice

  • Finally, and I believe this goes for many Vayne fans, this excerpt from the old lore made me fall in love with her:

Vayne reflexively adjusted the crossbow on her arm. "When do we begin?" she asked.

The summoner who seemed to be in charge of this process turned away from the fire. He was a gracefully aging man, approaching middle-age, with a quiet authority borne of true power. "In moments. First, I want to ask you how you managed to get past our defenses to gain access to the deeper chambers of the Institute."

"The same way I know that you are Senior Summoner Ezekiel Montrose and that the woman with you is Summoner Lessa Carin. The same way I know that you take rose-hip tea every day, the route you walk to your home, and that you sleep on a very uncomfortable bed. I am the Night Hunter. Now get on with it. I have already submitted to your authority."

Let's face it, League is lacking in women who shine with wits and intelligence alone. There are a few, but making one of them less so won't help the cause. If I could only ask for one thing, it would be to make Vayne the brilliant hacker she was again. I know she isn't very popular on these boards but imagine how much cooler retaining that side would make her: vicious, insane, but brilliant and insanely strategic in her pursuit. (a bit like another love of mine, Lisbeth Salander from "The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo".)

http://imgur.com/ebnmkrq.jpg

Of course, the current lore presents her at a rather early point of her life. It could be that future character development turns her into the awesome grand hacker I was hoping she would turn out to be.

In fact I might just be asking for more Vayne stories, character development and screentime.

Riot please?

58 Comments

Sexy Jack Rabbit3/23/2017, 11:10:58 PM24 votes

They wanted to make her Edgy to appeal to her fanbase and they did it. She's just an edgy, cold, unforgiving murderer now.

I felt like at least her old lore at more backstory then that.

She has no motivations beyond Fun, which in the end doesn't make her a redeemable character.

Malicious Metal3/23/2017, 8:48:32 PM15 votes

Let me stomach her killing Frey first.

Just... give me a moment.

DragonShea3/24/2017, 12:42:52 AM10 votes

Vayne is evil now. She is not a dark protector from monsters in the dark, but someone that tortures them like some of them will do to humans. I think the whole point of her character bio and lore is to explain that she is a monster in human skin.

Frey was humans that become a monster in body, but certainly on in mind and did her best to help Vayne, all for bolt in her gut. What. The fuck.

CasterGilgamesh3/23/2017, 9:40:26 PM8 votes

i truly cant stomach vayne anymore the fact she killed Frey is unforgivable in almost every way.I no longer care for her as a character sadly. Props to riot though still pretty decent until that part.This truly, in my opinion, ruins vayne as a character.

SpecterVonBaren3/23/2017, 10:56:23 PM2 votes

Riot just made it so she was like her mains is all.

Darrosh Jewfist3/24/2017, 6:53:39 AM2 votes

I agree with all your points.

I wish her stories focused on the cunning and intelligence she used to get where she is. I'm not sure it's even implied: in her short story she straight up Vaynes out.

It's definitely true. This Vayne is more of a shadow of what people think Vayne is. Ironically, in the attempt to avoid being like Batman, the writers made the same mistake a lot of less-respected writers of Batman made. They focused on Batman's brawn and lifelong martial arts training to brute force all conflict instead of relying on his wit, guile, and cunning. This Vayne suffered the same treatment.

I wish she had more vision: I wish she wasn't living her life to risk it for the next kill but instead carefully planned the eradication of the dark arts

This Vayne definitely lacks vision. She's more of a puritan Warhammer 40k Inquisitor who has no qualms, ifs, or buts about what she does. But the lore does currently show she works on a case by case basis. There's no long term plan. Just kill them as they come.

I wish this made her politically involved, and there was a highly-upvoted earlier thread about her unfinished business with the Black Rose from the old lore: Regarding the upcoming Vayne lore and some things left unfinished from the Journal of Justice

Until more information is found on the horned demon lady, she doesn't have any political connections to the Dark Rose. Hell, I don't even know if the current Vayne cares about it. She kind of does things for the moment.

Finally, and I believe this goes for many Vayne fans, this excerpt from the old lore made me fall in love with her: (quote)

What's interesting about this line is that this showed that Vayne was ultra-competent in ways outside of direct combat. She was a master of collecting information. She had an obsession with knowledge. This made her in-game lines like 'Joke? What's that?' funnier because we get that she's a vengeance-obsessed and perhaps socially awkward person. If the current Vayne made that joke, it would just make her seem even more sociopathic than she already is.

GULAG 4 U3/23/2017, 11:09:34 PM2 votes

Well, she is a %%%% lol.

Golden Tager X3/23/2017, 11:18:27 PM2 votes

One thing I really think now, is that Luc is far out of her league in terms of what they do. I feel like she would get boxed and lanterned immediately if she ran into Thresh. She can only operate against things she can outsmart, but in terms of sheer power she falls short. So I don't get why they tried to make her a B.A.B. (BadAss Bitch) instead of a calm and collected intelligent type of individual.

Lùmen3/26/2017, 7:46:23 PM1 votes

She is one-dimensional, unlike the girl with the dragon tattoo. Her revenge was justified, Vayne went too far when she pumped Frey with a bolt and claimed she was doing it for the fun. Crazy b**ch!

P0IS0N IVY3/24/2017, 6:28:01 AM1 votes

I definitely wouldn't consider her Batman since she seems to thoroughly enjoy killing. I don't mind that she's badass like that, but I do miss the Black Rose portion of her story.

SettDownShutUp3/23/2017, 10:48:31 PM1 votes

And by depth we mean NOT BATMAN.