Kindred's lore entry.

GenoXx·Sep 21, 2015·4 votes·2,191 views

''''Tell me again, little Lamb, which things are ours to take?'' "All things, Dear Wolf.''

> Separate, but never parted, Kindred represents the twin essences of death. Lamb's arrow offers a swift release for those who accept their fate. Wolf hunts down those who run from their end, delivering violent finality within his crushing jaws. Though interpretations of Kindred's nature vary across Runeterra, every mortal must choose the true face of their death.

"essences of death" rather than the grim reaper. Is there a difference?

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17 Comments

A Superb VillainSep 21, 20153 votes

"Essence" is a funny word.

essence; noun

a : the permanent as contrasted with the accidental element of being b : the individual, real, or ultimate nature of a thing especially as opposed to its existence <a painting that captures the essence of the land> c : the properties or attributes by means of which something can be placed in its proper class or identified as being what it is

From my understanding, 'essence' implies an imitation, a representation, something that bears the qualities of, but does not actually embody, something.

GenoXxSep 21, 20151 votes

So not death?

A Superb VillainSep 21, 20153 votes

Yes. No. Maybe.

Riot is being coy while telling us their origin and status are a mystery without actually saying, "their origin and status are a mystery."

The LovelessSep 21, 20152 votes

Since Kindred can't 1-shot people, I'ma say no.

ShénzhìSep 21, 20152 votes

#Could be:

Death to Lamb: Mortals accepting their inevitable fate.
Death to Wolf: Mortals who have deviated from their fate.

Is Kindred one with all causality and fate? Kindred's ultimate ability does not make sense.

If this is true ... why even bother being a hunter? (The Eternal Hunter) Why hunt if fate is determined if not malleable? Wolf may hunt the deviants, I suppose, and maybe why Lamb hunts because conjoined spirits.

What may Kindred's connection be with the undead, Mordekaiser and the Shadow Isle? Is it Wolf's tasks to hunt the undying to put them to rest?

God damn this new champion is stupid. Why even bother adding a new champion? Makes me want to rip my hair out. Old champions, old stories, old kits; left in the ditch.

SharjoSep 21, 20151 votes

I feel like Grim Reaper is a being associated with death, where as "essences of death" implies a deeper connection. If I were to draw a comparison, think of in this circumstance the Grim Reaper being the gatekeeper, where as Kindred would be that and more; literal twin deities of death rather than mere aspects of death. Maybe Grim Reaper to Hades would be a better analogy? I dunno. I might be bollocking this up super hard.

GenoXxSep 21, 20152 votes

Well it seems that there are death. Essence. Mean that it came from from death itself. So yeah, grim reaper is just associated. Agent of death more likely.

So when it comes down to it, Kindred really is death. That means the next champ we get(possibly foreshadowing since were getting deity champs this year) Could very well be the Creator of Runeterra.

SharjoSep 21, 20151 votes

I'd love to see a creator deity for Runeterra. There's so much potential with that. Hell even if we only saw an agent/avatar of that being, I'd be happy.

GenoXxSep 21, 20151 votes

Don't know what im getting downvoted for.

But having a creator or at least a pale comparison can act as the former Iow. Just speaking. The "He who knows all" character can fit in a world like runeterra.

SharjoSep 21, 20151 votes

Dunno; some people are just mean and downvote because of that.

I imagine an Algalon style character whenever I think of the concept of a "He who knows all", in terms of power and scale. To put it in perspective; when Algalon was introduced nothing like him had ever been seen before in World of Warcraft. We'd seen the stuff his creators had made, but then he shows up and is like "Super powerful dude made of stars here to shut this party down". I still think Bard naked would look like Algalon in a way but I digress.

Either way, a creator deity or the hints of one would be interesting in my book. Hell even just a look in to higher powers, like the ones behind the Sun Disc or the ones behind Bard, providing those actually exist. That's be interesting.

GenoXxSep 21, 20151 votes

Bard does kinda fit that...or at least the people of the Floating villages do. They can read the stars.

For the Sun Disc. I believe it's more of a belief thing. Or maybe gods of the Desert. It seems only people of the Desert respect the gods of that ancient civilization thing. I could see Demacia having their seperate belief.

333lomSep 21, 20151 votes

A design of a kind of a Supreme Being that created Runeterra would be pretty cool; but how would it look like if you have a character such as...let's say Gnar, versus a god?

A Superb VillainSep 21, 20151 votes

In a word: bad.

Suspension of disbelief flies right out the window. Entities or concepts of that power are rarely, if ever, playable or protagonists, and for good reason; by merely existing they alter a narrative's flow. What point is there to conflict if there exists something that can, and will, end it with little to no effort?

333lomSep 22, 20152 votes

Exactly. That character would effectively become the only important one, the only one that affects the narrative. All others would just look like decoration.

GenoXxSep 21, 20151 votes

that wouldn't end up great.

Besides having that would surely replace the institute as a final

333lomSep 22, 20152 votes

That's right. If I were Gnar, I'd have nothing else to say except :(

It would not only replace the IoW, but be ten times worse in regards to what people said they disliked in IoW, the "full control of events". This guy would literally be Deus ex mahina, with absolutely no option for other characters to influence reality.

CheshaSep 21, 20151 votes

I assumed based on the story Lamb told Wolf that "Kindred" was "Death(also sometimes called the Grim Reaper)" who split himself in two. No one likes death because on a whole no one wants to die. Wolf personifies the gruesome, long, or painful ends. He is the struggle of those who desperately try to fight their end. Lamb personifies those who can accept their mortality, those whose ends are quick, and those who peacefully go. At least that's what I interpreted them as.