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Piltover lacks a villain! (It's time for crime)

Chembaron Yamada··10 votes·1,603 views

Hello summoners,

am I the only one noticing that the Piltover champion roster is just a bunch of heroes? Let's take a look at the champions from this region.

Caitlyn Sheriff fighting the crime in Piltover, good girl Camille Sassy cyborg bladeleg lady, she is an anti-hero, kills to serve her city Ezreal Bishonen Indiana Jones, some people even declare him as protagonist of the game Heimerdinger Scientist with (at least it seems) high moral standards Jayce Pictured as a hero by himself and society (mostly himself), his intentions are good Orianna A woman, who sacrificed her body and humanity to save other people Vi She used to be a criminal, but fights for law now, saving people in lore

We lack a champion on the evil side of the spectrum here, all the champions from Piltover share the good alignment.

But why is that relevant? Well, in the beginning of this game, the regions were way more onedimensional.

Demacia was the "good fantasy region". Noxus was the "evil fantasy region". Piltover was the "good steampunk region". Zaun the "evil steampunk region".

However, the lore developed further than this and the regions get pictured more ambiguous. Zaun is showing this progress pretty well. We have many different alignments coming from there. To call out some examples:

Good Zaunites Ekko Young idealist, wants to make Zaun a better place for his family and friends Janna Who needs a hug from the protecting wind deity? Zac Lives by the moral code from his parents, trying to become a hero

Evil Zaunites Urgot Shreds people cause they didn't prove to be worth Singed For further information, ask Warwick about his encounter with this guy Twitch Wants to make everything as stinky as himself

Neutral Zaunites Ziggs Likes to blow up property of other people, but still has conscience Viktor Just wants to see his glorious evolution become reality

Zaun proved to be a pretty diverse region in this regard now. I want Piltover to have the same. We have "Piltover's Finest" as the police there, yet the only criminals we read them fighting were Zaunites like Jinx or spies from Noxus.

A city like Piltover has alot of room for evil characters.

Maybe an assassin in maid outfit, obsessed with her "master" (leader of a house) and willing to kill everyone she gets told to, just to secure the profit from her master's business? Maybe a thief, stealing from the famous bank in Piltover (the Eclyptic Vaults) and killing people in his way? Maybe a corrupt member of high society? Hell, maybe a crazy psychotic serial killer with a hextech chainsaw?

What are your thoughts about this? Would you like to see a Piltie gone bad? What kind of evil characters from there would you like to see in the future?

Discuss!

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48 Comments

Kiryu9 votes

I think even though Camille might seem like the anti-hero, I think she fits more along the lines of lawful evil. Currently she's not harming anyone that doesn't really deserve it but I can definitely see her one day "eliminating" a threat that may be innocent or maybe even a positive force.

Chembaron Yamada3 votes

Hm, even if we say that she would do something like that, I don't know if it really qualifies as evil. Wouldn't that make her more like a neutral character?

It is a fact that she is killing dangerous and harmful people. If she starts to kill for example positive forces, that would just mean that she doesn't care for you to be good or evil, as long as you are a threat for the balance in Piltover, she will take you out of the picture. She is not going out killing people for an evil goal, she just wants to preserve the status quo in Piltover.

It is a pretty complex problematic here. I just would like to see a truly evil character coming from there to counteract the goodies. More along the line of that guy: Urgot

You can argue if Camille is good, neutral or even evil. But no one would question Urgot in that regard. Camille kinda works like a batman of Piltover. She is doing the dirty work to protect the city. I would like a character who is directly harming the city and it's citizens intentionally and actually is part of Piltover, not a Zaunite just making a fun trip upwards with the elevator. ^^

I understand where you are coming from, though. Still wanna ask: Is there not an evil archetype for Piltover you could imagine to give the Steel Shadow some company? :P

Kiryu2 votes

I think a good way to think of it would be this: Does the fact that she does go for evil people as well excuse all of her actions? For example, say she has to eliminate Caitlyn or Ezreal for some reason. Those characters are usually seen as the goodies. Attacking and killing either of them would make her a force of evil in a cliche way I guess. So I do think that while it doesn't mean she's flat out a monster, she most likely has done things that have put her past the line of neutrality into lawful evil. She has her own set of rules she'll follow and if others have to suffer harshly for it, so be it. That I think is a pretty good way to describe it.

Still, if there were to be a truly evil character in Piltover, I think the Tesla Effect guy might've been onto something. A false hero for Piltover that pretends to be a good guy but is actually a total sleazeball. Like I was thinking about it, he pretty much would be a guy who got famous off of other peoples' inventions and no one knows. He'd also basically be pulling strings in Piltover to keep people from knowing, intimidating others and silencing those who don't abide. I can already see him saying stuff in game like "I don't know what any of this stuff does so let's find out." or "If I told you how I acquired my inventions, I'd have to kill you. Best not to take any chances though".

Placentas3 votes

Doubt it.

Shes had the opportunity to do it.

She could have sliced that little girl in half from her story, would have made life a whole lot easier to just eliminate her. Yeah she's a little girl, but she's naive, has a lot of power, and was easily persuaded to side with someone who was up to no good for Piltover.

Cami is strict, but she is by no means evil.

GreenLore6 votes

Well the head of a powerful house getting killed might have simply disturbed the balance in power even further,so she might not have spared her out of kindness,but convenience.

Killaburn4 votes

We still have C though. Time will tell if riot will make him(or her) a champion.

Khaled Ferros2 votes

I Think it is Camille, There is an interaction between Camille and Caitlyn. "Don't look for something you don't want to find" I think this is because Caitlyn is really trying her hardest to find that person (C), but I don't have any other evidence. Though I don't know why didn't she just go for her and kill her, pretty sure she is much stronger than Caitlyn.

Chembaron Yamada3 votes

Camille has no reason to kill Caitlyn, so she doesn't. She is just interventing if something is harming the balance of the city. If Caitlyn comes close to finding out what actually happened back then, she might solve this problem with Caitlyn. But as long as that is not the case, Camille doesn't have a reason to harm her.

Chembaron Yamada3 votes

Like already mentioned, there is a strong possibility that C is supposed to be Camille. If not, then it would be great to make this interaction develop and it could give us a Piltover villain.

Eternal7912 votes

I forget if Caitlyn's new bio has C leaving a calling card, but if it does, I doubt its Camille. I just don't see her being the kind to leave a calling card.

Chembaron Yamada2 votes

You could be right. If it turns out that it isn't Camille, then they definitely should develop in that direction.

Camille stating that Caitlyn shouldn't look for an answer she doesn't want to know seems highly interesting. What kind of secret could be behind C that Caitlyn couldn't bare? How much does Camille know and what kind of relationship does she have to C?

All interesting questions and I hope we get some answers some day.

ModAttysu The Poro4 votes

To be fair; isn't the crimerate in Piltover absurdly low, and a lot of criminals go to Zaun etc instead?

I can be wrong I haven't been up to date in lore since like 2 years ago [sg-lux-2]

PS: Jinx is Zaunite and just went to Piltover, she's not a Piltover person herself. I think the OP is asking for a Piltie specifically to BE a villain.

Chembaron Yamada2 votes

While you could be right about the crime rate, low is not zero. It is normal and natural that the amount of villains from Zaun will be bigger, but it would be great to have at least a single evil character from Piltover.

ModAttysu The Poro2 votes

{quoted}

While you could be right about the crime rate, low is not zero. It is normal and natural that the amount of villains from Zaun will be bigger, but it would be great to have at least a single evil character from Piltover,

Oh I'm not disagreeing! I just kinda see it like...

The crimerate is low, and those that exist go to Zaun/other places if they don't agree with how Piltover is run. More science, less rules, less regulations. It kinda makes sense we have so many villains from Zaun go TO Piltover openly (like Jinx) and are considered Zaunites instead of Piltover themselves having criminals.

Why be a criminal and almost guarantee get caught/screwed when you can go to Zaun and get away with LITERAL MURDER? It makes sense plot wise but game wise I'd love to see an 'official' bad guy other than Jinx.

Tesla Effect3 votes

Jayce is a freaking jerk that betrayed Viktor and made him go even more extreme. He is a false hero.

Chembaron Yamada3 votes

True that, but the point is that his alignment is still good. He has not harmful intentions, he actually thinks to protect people.

That he is a narcistic jerk who doesn't really comprehend his actions doesn't make him an evil character. ^^

Just thinking that having a truly criminal/evil character from Piltover would be great, especially since we have this cop duo "Piltover's Finest", yet we don't see them interact with any Piltovan in a rivalry way. There is just Jinx coming up to town from time to time to blow stuff up and taunt Fat Hands and Hat Lady, but she is a Zaunite, not a Piltie.

Piltover lacks champions in general, especially if you compare it with Zaun. And so I just thought: having a criminal from Piltover would be a nice addition.

WOOOOOOOOHOOOOOO2 votes

Mundo is a pretty good use as a villain last I checked, plus we now have Jhin coming to Piltover to do lord knows what.

Jinx, while she is crazy, I most definitely believe her to be a villain, same with Viktor. If they’re not villains already I guarantee that they will Be soon.

Warlord Dienekes2 votes

Yeah, people not thinking Jinx is evil has always confused me.

She blows up people’s property and even a Rioter has admitted this has harmed and killed people before. All done for nothing more than to have fun.

That’s evil.

I’ve heard the argument that she’s not evil because her goal was not to hurt those people. But she still blatantly doesn’t care about them and thinks people dying is a fine price to pay to get a few kicks.

WOOOOOOOOHOOOOOO2 votes

I think people are just desperately trying to believe Jinx is at least neutral because they desperately don’t want her to be bad.

Warlord Dienekes3 votes

Yeah. I’ve seen the same thing when comic fans talk about Harley Quinn.

It’s really weird how defensive people get when you point out their lovable quirky action Girl is actually a mass murderer.

Let them be evil, villains are fun.

Placentas2 votes

I'd say you're pretty correct. When we want to preserve our opinion on ourselves or a different person we tend to judge the person in question by their intention, not their actual actions.

Jinx's intention isn't to kill people, it's to have fun and be cray cray. Her actions however have lead to deaths.

So is Jinx evil? Intentionally I'd say, however the repercussions of her actions have had evil consequences therefore enabling the word evil to be applied to her.

At the end of the day it's subjective to the viewer, it's the philosophy of morality. Because even though I just agreed with you that Jinx on some level is evil, I wouldn't call her an evil person myself. I'm not sure whether Jinx was ever "good" or if she has the potential to be good (again), but we also don't really know her real story. So for me personally, that makes it hard for me to have some kind of definitive judgement on her current character.

WOOOOOOOOHOOOOOO2 votes

If you can’t take into account how your actions impact other people and refuse to try that makes everything that you’re doing malevolent at worst.

Chembaron Yamada3 votes

Dr. Mundo is a Zaunite, same for Jinx. Fine, admitted, Jinx is most likely evil, that wasn't my point anyway.

These champions are associated with Zaun, not Piltover. I listed every Piltover champ in the post and none of them truly is an evil character.

WOOOOOOOOHOOOOOO2 votes

Chamille can be argued to be becoming evil. Chamille is the status quo, she only fights to preserve the order that her family rests on top of.

Chembaron Yamada2 votes

You can argue it, but she isn't clearly evil. She has the potential to become evil later, but her actions we know of show a person with responsibility.

I highly doubt that she would do truly evil actions if her house benefits from it, if that means that a large part of Piltover is going to suffer.

Reading her comic, she really feels more like an anti-hero. She wants to preserve order and states that the rules apply to everyone. She doesn't discriminate, she doesn't even spare her own brother when she found out that he was corrupted.

She basically even sacrificed her humanity to protect the city.

JackMcSnipeyz2 votes

How is jinx neutral when she is literally a terrorist, just because she has a few loose screws doesnt mean she is neutral, she's just a psycho killer. Stop trying to make everyone morally gray.

And yes, piltover needs a villain

Chembaron Yamada3 votes

Fine, scratch Jinx from the list. Even if she is evil, Zaun actually has diversity in alignments. That's my entire point. ^^

Ebonmaw Dragon2 votes

{quoted}

Twitch Wants to make everything as stinky as himself

Uhh... is that really evil?

Chembaron Yamada2 votes

If this includes to penetrate innocent people with poisoned bolts, most likely. I mean, in the little bit of lore we got (god, he needs a lore update), he killed a full team of people because they were "stealing" his junk.

And the new lore bit on PBE mentions that he plans to attack Piltover with his poison. Seems evil for me.

HalfTangible2 votes

Jinx resides in Piltover.

"But she's originally from Zaun"

Vi 's originally from Zaun, Viktor 's originally from Piltover, you assigned them to their places of residence.

Chembaron Yamada2 votes

Where exactly is it stated that Jinx resides in Piltover currently? We even got a comic with Jinx and Ziggs recently, in which Jinx is inviting Ziggs to live with her in her place in Zaun.

Additionally, every champion is aligned with a region in the Universe Page. Looking up the champions, you see that Jinx is associated with Zaun, just like Viktor. Meanwhile Vi is considered a Piltover champion.

HalfTangible2 votes

Jinx's color story takes place in Piltover and her bio states she remains at large in the city, still blowing things up for funsies.

Eternal7912 votes

That just means she spends a lot of time in Piltover, not that she lives there.

GenoXx1 votes

She's from Zaun. People actually remember seeing a girl like her when she was younger. Even though a urban legend, the roots are in Zaun.

HalfTangible1 votes

Urgot's from Noxus, he's listed as a Zaun champ.

Chembaron Yamada1 votes

Correct, that Jinx was born in Zaun is irrelevant.

However, she is listed as a Zaunite champion and as far as we know, she resides and lives in Zaun right now.

She is just fairly often taking an elevator (or maybe a rocket, who knows) to cause mayhem up there in Piltover.

GenoXx1 votes

Yes, because he is currently there. Also was imprisoned there. Jinx just goes to Piltover to wreak havoc, then returns to Zaun. Also apparenty from her comic...

KestrelGirl2 votes

Uh, Jinx is terrorizing Piltover...

Chembaron Yamada2 votes

Yes, she does, but she still lives in Zaun and is considered a Zaunite champion.

Jinx terrorizing Piltover is like saying we got a hero from Noxus, since Quinn is scouting the Noxian territory.

One Ashe On2 votes

The answer is here :Garen

Necrozard2 votes

And demacia lacks assasins :v

btw i like your "neutral/evil/good" !

i would have classified Camille as somthing along the lines of "lawful evil"

(Acting violently to be sure everything stays in order)

Chembaron Yamada2 votes

And demacia lacks assassins :v

Agreed and don't get me started about the subclasses Piltover is missing. Biggest need is a tank right now, though. ^^

btw i like your "neutral/evil/good" !

Thanks. [sg-ezreal]

i would have classified Camille as something along the lines of "lawful evil"

It seems some people see her that way, I just don't really understand why. In my eyes, she may be neutral, but definitely not evil. Killing with the goal to protect doesn't necessarily make you evil if your intentions are good. She wants to preserve balance at all cost. She dedicated her whole life to protect her home.

Necrozard1 votes

it's true she value balance a lot

So it's fine for "lawful neutral" !

[sg-ahri-2]

A Liberal1 votes

Lawful Evil? No, Camille is Chaotic Good. She's a vigilante.

Ralanr2 votes

Why a criminal? Why not a noble?

Chembaron Yamada1 votes

In my definition, a corrupt noble or villains in general are criminals. [sg-ahri-2]

A noble would work as well, of course. [slayer-jinx-wink]

Corvid2 votes

Jinx is from Zaun, but is shown to do crime in piltover

Viktor also has ties to Zaun, but is shown to come up to piltover in Jayce's stories. And I disagree that you don't list him as a villain, he does some bad things in the name of his glorious revolution.

A Liberal1 votes

A jack the ripper type character would fit really well into Piltover, given that it is a steampunk aesthetic. Maybe he's a Piltoverian who isn't smart enough to create things by himself so he steals people's memories and knowledge with an enchanted weapon to progress himself? Could be a really interesting dynamic if he kills society's elite, but does it for a cause he perceives as good.

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