@Jaredan can we get a relationship tree?

Rabid Husky··10 votes·4,062 views

i was just thinking why cant we get a more in depth chart on the champion pages for relationships its all just allies and rivals why cant we get something that would clarify what these people mean to each other is kat garens girlfriend? are tryndamere and ashe married? how about zed and syndra why are they allies? are they in a relationship? and theres plenty more that could be clarified like whos with who in the freljord war exactly new people join every day and they cant be there for every post and every promotion and with new champs being added it does put into question of who are they with like braum is he averosian or is he winters claw

i really do appreciate the recent post and i like to add a idea to the mid maybe a side page that shows a tree that gives more depth on whats going on and where these people stand thank you for reading this post have a nice day

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RiotRiotJaredan18 votes

I think this is a really cool idea.

Legacy of Xion9 votes

Can we get an explanation to the Ahri/Wukong friendship? It doesn't make much sense honestly...

Sharjo8 votes

I would've said it's a kinship between creatures who obtained sentience in a "peculiar" manner and live in a society that is foreign to them. I'd imagine Wukong could take the place of the IoW as the means for helping Ahri as they adjust to human society and the like.

Legacy of Xion3 votes

I can live with that.

Sharjo3 votes

Give me another one! I'm sure I can think up something to justify it!

Legacy of Xion2 votes

I just dislike the Ahri x Wukong ship, honestly. Not a fan, doesn't fit imo.

But I'm the guy that ships Ahri x Kayle so what do I know...

Sharjo3 votes

Eh, to each his own, I won't hate a ship unless it's a dumb as hell ship like Riven x Zac. I'm Ok with Ahri x Wukong personally from the standpoint of "we're kinda similar characters that could grow close and live in a similar environment" is at least a reasonable justification in my book. Not sure if either Ahri or Wukong would really be up for settling down though, I mean they're a fox and a monkey, not really the "settle down" type of animals.

1011001110001 votes

Riven x Zac spawned out of Battle Bunny Riven's art, in which you can see Zac going "zOMG she's hawt" watching Riven kick ass.

He can be located in the background, underneath her left leg. To be fair, while the pairing barely has anything to justify its creation, the pairing itself is cute. :x

If you wanna talk about weird ships, look up Rammus x Cactus.

Sharjo2 votes

It always struck me why people like that. I feel like that's really mean to Rammus insinuating that he'll only find love with a slow growing prickly plant. Rammus deserves better!

1011001110001 votes

Lol, people downvoting us for opinions. :^|

Destínum3 votes

People like it because they were paired together by Blitzcrank's fleshling compatibility services. It's a canon thing.

Sharjo1 votes

Is it really though, considering the JoJ's not 100% canon anymore?

Destínum2 votes

Yup. It's even mentined as a loading screen "did you know" on the LAN servers.

Sharjo1 votes

How does Blitzcrank even know Rammus exists in the new canon for him to pull that off though? Hm...

Ebonmaw Dragon2 votes

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How does Blitzcrank even know Rammus exists in the new canon for him to pull that off though? Hm...

Blitzcrank can pull a lot of things... i bet that he can pull Rammus as well!

Sharjo1 votes

Blitz is great at pulling...if you know what I mean

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Destínum1 votes

They might have met? Rammus is a wanderer after all, trying to find his place in the world, and most likely visited Zaun at some point. The fact that he and Blitz are marked as friends and Rammus has a Full Metal skin (tying him into the Battlecast timeline) points towards this even further. Blitz is also trying to find were he belongs, so I'd kill to have some kind of "the adventures of Blitzcrank and Rammus" story or something.

Legacy of Xion2 votes

Riven x Zac? Yeah that's a dumb ship. Only basis is artwork. No reason imo...

Personally, Riven x Katarina, or Riven x Yasuo would make somewhat more sense...

Slushi Simcambi1 votes

I mean Kat is taken obviously but maybe before Riven gets pissed at Noxus and leaves they had a relationship...?

Riven x Yasuo is quite interesting, red a fanfic on it once.

Legacy of Xion1 votes

Yeah, that's kind of how it would have to work (I mastership Kat x Garen, and most of the canon ones).

And really? Was it decent?

Slushi Simcambi1 votes

I didn't finish it lol. Go to fanfiction.net and look for it. It's one of the more favorite ones.

Fowus1 votes

Yasuo is like her enemy though...

Matezoide1 votes

At least Riven x Zac has artwork as basis.

Riven x Katarina or Kayle are far dumber.

Legacy of Xion1 votes

Riven and Katarina are from the same army >.> it's not the worst stretch honestly.

Zac has never been to Noxus or Ionia to Riven x Zac is merely an artwork joke v.v

Dextix LT1 votes

Which will never be implemented, because riot lore team is lazy.....

Sharjo3 votes

Relationship = not an easy thing to make a tree of.

I mean relationship can be anywhere from siblings to drinking buddies to guy you admire but don't agree with to god knows what. If you look at the relations section of champions lore pages its just names and faces. The details are much finer than that. While I agree that getting more details on said relationships would be great, let's get stories and exposition to elaborate on these relations, not just a few sentences of drivel.

Rabid Husky5 votes

Im talking about more than the 2 boxes saying allies and rivals so then we dont have to play from season 1 to understand where people stand with other I personally didnt know udyr was a member of the winters claw since my computer was out for the freljord event so i coudlnt see the promotion plus fans can ship them all we want it doesnt mean riot ships zed and syndra so they could be friends for all we know (if this was confirmed please link me to it) and if you want another example is the pages of people saying ekko was in a gang with vi and jinx and they all hung out even tho riots said multiple times they dont know ekko he knows of vi and jinx thats why he has quotes to them but not the other way around

even if you dont like the tree its just a example and idea if its another page or anything to clarify what these people mean to each other

McAllister3 votes

Punctuate, child.

GreenLore1 votes

I remember that chard.It used to be updated from time to time,but sadly it wasn't updated ever since Azirs release(probably because of the retcon?)

Xenohaz2 votes

I think Zed and Syndra are listed as friends because they have similar views of the world, and followed similar paths to get where they are today. They both contrast the usual Ionian belief that balance in all things is good, and instead focus on attaining as much power as possible, with no real concern for who gets hurt in the process. Also, they both broke the mold of their previous organizations: Zed deviated from the normal ninja views, killing most of the other ninjas in the process, while Syndra hijacked the temple in which she was told to strive for balance and moderation, putting it in the sky as a palace. Also, they both killed their former masters/teachers who tried to get them to focus on balance. They might not be "friends" in a platonic sense, and we have no reason to believe they have a romantic relationship, but I think they've at least heard of and respect each other.

Overlord Forte2 votes

I've only ever largely seen their friendship as an alliance of convenience, really. Their respective goals do not inherently overlap, or even interact nicely with each other, but they are in a position of few workable resources. Zed has the expertise of assassins and silent blades, while Syndra carries an array of destruction only scarcely imaginable. Both solve different problems, shore up the weaknesses of the other, and form a stronger defense against the greater Ionian collective.

In the end though, they're very different people. They're not going to treat with one another or entertain too deep niceties because it's not in their personalities. Syndra can very well see Zed's fall to his shadow arts as weakness, Zed himself seeing Syndra's isolation as foolish/childish or ignorant of the world, etc ...

Sneak Dog1 votes

Just an overview of all the relevant lore for a given champion on one page ought to do. Best way you can get relations is from the stories, right?

Rabid Husky2 votes

that is true but wed also have to get that champions life story depending on how far back we see them interact with other champions plus adding new champions means you have to rewrite the lore whiile a graph or some kind or a list means you can change whatever you want whenever you want a good example would be when braum released even if you wrote gragus trynd anivia and nunu into ashes lore where would you write in braum other than oh ya braum was there to

TheJinxedOne1 votes

your choices are biased

Fowus1 votes

what about Urgot and Yorick

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