has everyone else just been fine with thunderlords as of late? i still see 4-5 man team thunderlords just as frequently as when it was first released and gotta wonder if everyone is either using the same mastery or if everyone has just bashed their heads into the wall enough that they accept it
Fervor out damages it in teamfights.
All the other masteries demand you to use math to understand how they work. Thunderlords is just press 3 buttons and u see lightning.
Bronze and silver players are typically bad players.
What are bronze and silver players going to do?
They are going to use the easier keystone to understand.
I have seen significantly more variety since the keystone mastery update.
Fervor of Battle , Bond of Stone, Strength of Ages, Grasp of the Undying and Windspeaker's Blessing are seen very often. Thunderlord's is still the most popular but not "10 TLD in every game" as it used to be, it's like 3-4.
There will absolutely always be a "Most popular" Keystone, by definition even. That doesn't mean there is a problem.
Every other keystone has an advantage over thunderlords.
They need to nerf it, and not buff other atk oriented masteries. See how it goes. If some still are weak, then buff em.
As it is now, TLD is the real issue on several champs. I feel TLD makes Ahri super strong even when you miss E, your W helps proc it, so it helps get kills. If anything, TLD needs the nerf, not Ahri's charm.
Shoot, even take off the MS temporary increase that comes with shooting Q, maybe make it only give buff for landing it, or just not have it at all (like S4).
AND, Riot needs to go after the real problem, making better masteries. Since the masteries for mages are only 2, 3 if you play shield or heal giving supp-ish mages. And Assassins have 2. ADCs have like 4 masteries to choose from, but b/c TLD is OP, they go for it (sometimes Bloodlust). Tanks get their things (or are aholes and go TLD).
So they need to do a better job of making them better, or in my opinion, they need to nerf TLD and make a new mastery that is more relevant.
I never use it, I don't mind if every one else uses it. Live and let live
I think its the "go to" key-stone.. If you arn't sure what keystone you want, or which you can utilize the best, you can't really go wrong with thunderlords.
Thunderlord's is not the be-all keystone anymore. If everyone on your team has thunderlord's then it's a comp of bursty champions that prefer it (which are pretty popular champs in general) or some of them are picking thunderlord's when they shouldn't over better options.
Here's what the keystones look like in a typical pro game: http://imgur.com/qFnynpw 2x fervor on auto focused champs, 2x grasps on bruisers that auto attack, windspeaker's on a healer, 3 strength of the ages on junglers looking for tankiness and a support looking to supplement his health on a limited budget, and 2x thunderlord's on ability focused champs that like to get in a combo and back off.
That's a pretty solid balance with different keystones ending up more or less on the champions you'd expect them to.
TLD is probably still the most common keystone, but it's hardly universal. There's a lot more variety now, with the only keystone I don't regularly see being Stormraider's Surge.
grasp is the go to for top right now, fervor is for ADCs generally, windspeakers/bond of stone is popular for supports, and strength of ages is popular for junglers. Even stormraiders/deathfire/warlords bloodlust see play on certain champions, so i'd say thunderlords is pretty balanced. If you're seeing a high amount of thunderlords it may be due to players not keeping up with thunderlords meta being dead?
Many people are just too lazy to theorycraft and optimize stuff on their own and go for the shortcut and blindly copy the "better players" instead.
And forgot that TLD on many champs are strong only early on, and not as relevant late.
I mean, it's like seeing the same 20 champs picked every game; this is not really anything new to this game. Not saying it's not a problem, but more like a pattern repeating itself.
We all have access to it so how is it broke vs champs that only one can get
I tried changing stuff. NOT AS GOOD! Riot needs to nerf it.
But i do use Grasp, Ages, Bond. Shield/heals, sometimes Warlords.
But i noticed on way too many champ Thunder is better.
There are better masteries for some champs. I.E Fiora does better with Fervor, Darius does better with Grasp of the Undying, AP Nunu is good with Stormraider's, Sion is great with Strength of Ages, most supports are good with Bond of Stone, etc. Thunderlord's is like the flash of masteries- There are good options, but this is usually the best overall barring some champions.
I don't mind it really, actually I'm in favor of it. I mean, pretty much everyone takes 
and pretty much nobody takes {{summoner:2}} 
or even 
so why shouldn't it be the same for masteries? It makes everything more streamlined and easier to comprehend.
Probably because warlords is only accessible to marksmen, deathfire touch is only good on DoT mages, stormraiders is still not worth it, windspeakers is only good for select support champions, and the resolve tree has keystones that you don't want if you aren't going pretty tanky. So you're left with a lot of champions who have how many other good options for them?
