In his original story he saved his parents and his home, but in the new one he loses them and kinda becomes like Batman. Moody and dark is the opposite of who Zac is.
It doesn't really fit his character, the nice guy vigilante who embodies the trope of "Don't judge a book by its cover"
Malicious Metal84 votesYeah, I liked him being more of the upbeat Zaun hero.
"I should buy a suit" "I never skip breakfast"
Ralanr13 votesHe's still upbeat, just has a little more sadness.
Malicious Metal64 votesWhich is unneeded.
Ralanr48 voteshttp://img.memecdn.com/wait-good-point_o_1144675.jpg
Well you're not wrong.
XIII Vanitas2 votesNow he's the peeping tom of League with weird healing powers.
For real though, why is he able to heal people?
Ralanr1 votesMaybe he'll get such an ability in a class update?
He probably doesn't do it often because he doesn't get it back.
Troll for Trump5 votesHis kit is fine, his numbers are a little wonky
Chromatic Eagle10 votesWhy not? We don't really know what his body does.
Quindec22 votesZac is like this huge bodybuilder mommas boy and i think thats a really good character for him
xelaker2 votes[{quoted}](name=Malicious Metal,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=PuTqEH58,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-01-12T19:51:49.754+0000)
Yeah, I liked him being more of the upbeat Zaun hero.
"I should buy a suit" "I never skip breakfast"
I could use a snack
Oleandervine44 votesI agree. Plus it's trite. How many League champions have lost everyone they love and become the hero after the fact (or the villain)? Too many to count. It's becoming a bit overused.
GhostOfShrimpmas1 votesAt least we have 
and 
and 
and 
SpecterVonBaren2 votesWell.... Darius and Draven are orphans actually, Darius basically raised the both of them by himself. Also Shyvana's father was killed by another dragon and she went out for revenge to kill that dragon.
OurLestrade39 votesAgreed, they essentially just took his old lore and slapped edginess on it by killing off his parents. I think we have enough stories like that in LOL as is, and if anything it detracts from his character by throwing him onto the pile with all the other mopy edge lords when he was already unique as an upbeat Zaunite.
Oleandervine50 votesAgreed, they essentially just took his old lore and slapped edginess on it by killing off his parents. I think we have enough stories like that in LOL as is.
Everyone you love is dead or will die.
Everything you love is dead.
Everyone you love is dead.
Everyone you love might be dead.
Everyone you love is dead.
Everyone you love is dead.
Everyone you love is dead.
Everyone you love is dead.
Everyone you love is dead.
Everyone you love is dead or trying to murder you.
Everyone you love is dead.
Everyone you love is dead or has disowned you.
Everyone you love is dead.
Everyone you love is dead.
Everyone you love is dead.
Everyone you love is dead.
So did we really need 
to be added to this list?
Jeddy01732 votesYorick even have a voice line for it.
"Everyone I knew is dead. How are things with you?"
ModCaptainMårvelous14 votes "Same tbh"
Faceroll Tactics7 votesMiss fortune lost her parents to gangplank Gangplank lost his flagship the dead pool Twisted fate was more or less disowned Pantheon lost his friends on the trek up Targon
Damn, a LOT of the roster have tragic stories.
Ralanr2 votesWhat heroes don't have much tragedy in their stories? Hell, Superman lost his entire planet!
Looknook4 votesDoes it really count when you weren't old enough to know your planet or anyone on it?
MontethePython6 votesYeah superman's backstory is about as tragic as goku's, so not really tragic, the only tragic part of superman is when he loses his earth father in every superman media format. Daddy kent just cannot stay alive. Tornados, villains, cars, and heart attacks have all killed jonathan kent in the past. Lol losing a planet you never knew isn't that big of a deal. Now maybe like General Zod and Vegeta have lost their planets in a tragic way, they had attachments and lived on their old planet, but not superman and goku.
AsktheDefender11 votesWhat heroes don't have much tragedy in their stories? Hell, Superman lost his entire planet!
Saitama. The worst he got was that he couldn't get a job.
Awoof6 votesLosing his hair doesn't do it for tragedy?
Sraeg201311 votesBut wait, there's more!
Everyone you love is dead.
Everyone you love is dead.
Everyone you love is dead or has disowned you.
Everyone you love is dead or sees you as a traitor.
Everyone you love is dead.
Every cigar you love is dead.
GreenLore3 votesUhm Annies parents never died....
ImTheSideKick8 votes ....... I'm not dead...
phoinix3 votesFunny time with trynda ;)
Skorch2 votesDont forget 
Sraeg20131 votesPretty sure Jax's story consists of ass whooping.
Glory ln Death5 votesEvery real weapon he ever loved is forbidden for him dead...
ModAcademy Kayn12 votesThis is just my opinion, but if you read the lore, it doesn't look anymore original than that. It's all the Spiderman "With great power comes responsibility" and he is now a good guy cause of that.
Now, the built to destroy but has feelings thing is great, it's the best part, it's what makes Zac, Zac (Despite how cheesy the last sentence is "Originally built to destroy, he now protects the innocent and the helpless")
The point is, and this is the same point i argue with the new Leona, is that people are not just "good" for the sake of story. Things happen to push people towards a goal, or a certain aspect of their life. Why would Zac care about life, if he hasn't experienced the horror of death? All he ever was taught was the "Spiderman" lesson, but Peter Parker had to go through the death of his Uncle to realize what that meant.
(and yeah, my parents are dead thing is whatever, but I've seen plenty of "dead parent" characters in DnD that aren't complete edgelords, and have expanded into great characters)
Ralanr4 votesHell, I've played a character who accidentally killed his sister and was banished from his clan. He wasn't even edgy, just annoyed when people pushed him away whenever he tried to interact with people.
GrReaper962 votesHanzo from overwatch? (Assuming Genji was a girl all along)
Ralanr2 votesIf Hanzo was much more pragmatic and also used barbarian rage in battle, yes.
Kinda. Kyro had a different sense of honor than most. It basically boiled down to a duel was between two individuals and anything in it goes as long as it's only two people fighting.
Oleandervine18 votes[{quoted}](name=Dr Mercy,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=PuTqEH58,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2017-01-12T21:17:17.579+0000)
This is just my opinion, but if you read the lore, it doesn't look anymore original than that. It's all the Spiderman "With great power comes responsibility" and he is now a good guy cause of that.
Now, the built to destroy but has feelings thing is great, it's the best part, it's what makes Zac, Zac (Despite how cheesy the last sentence is "Originally built to destroy, he now protects the innocent and the helpless")
The point is, and this is the same point i argue with the new Leona, is that people are not just "good" for the sake of story. Things happen to push people towards a goal, or a certain aspect of their life. Why would Zac care about life, if he hasn't experienced the horror of death? All he ever was taught was the "Spiderman" lesson, but Peter Parker had to go through the death of his Uncle to realize what that meant.
(and yeah, my parents are dead thing is whatever, but I've seen plenty of "dead parent" characters in DnD that aren't complete edgelords, and have expanded into great characters)
That's the whole problem with things in the lore department - happiness, goodness, and all of that don't have to be based on tragedy. It is possible to be good and love and care for things without having your life fall apart. Granted, tragedy makes for better storytelling and can amplify the goodness, if it doesn't kill it entirely, but the need to consistently make tragic characters comes across as stale. We need characters who are just good for the sake of being good or good because the loving parents who freed him and adopted him and showed him love and life have made such an impact on him that he will do all in his power to preserve that aspect of the little bit of humanity that has shown him love and acceptance.
ModAcademy Kayn2 votesI mean, another problem I have with Zac's old lore, is that reading it, I feel like I'm in some white suburban neighborhood where the main bad guys are just guys in black suits. It doesn't feel like Zaun, and the villains don't feel Zaun-ish at all.
"The staff abducted Zac's parents and demanded that the couple assist in his capture and return."
Uhhhhh, why, other than to give Zac a reason to save them? These people are evil, yet they act like bad Saturday cartoon victims that everyone fears that Viktor might become. Zaun is a vicious place, and the "Happy Happy Neighborhood" is so out of place, I just can't even.
Oleandervine4 votes[{quoted}](name=Dr Mercy,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=PuTqEH58,comment-id=000500010000,timestamp=2017-01-12T21:35:10.718+0000)
I mean, another problem I have with Zac's old lore, is that reading it, I feel like I'm in some white suburban neighborhood where the main bad guys are just guys in black suits. It doesn't feel like Zaun, and the villains don't feel Zaun-ish at all.
"The staff abducted Zac's parents and demanded that the couple assist in his capture and return."
Uhhhhh, why, other than to give Zac a reason to save them? These people are evil, yet they act like bad Saturday cartoon victims that everyone fears that Viktor might become. Zaun is a vicious place, and the "Happy Happy Neighborhood" is so out of place, I just can't even.
It doesn't have to be a cartoon trope, but it doesn't have to be a testosterone driven edgy action drama either. There is an inbetween, where Zac can be happy and have a sense of belonging and his parents are alive to lead him on his way.
ModAcademy Kayn2 votesIt doesn't seem that edgy at all, nor does the "sense of belonging", I think, own opinion, fit here at all.
Oleandervine9 votes[{quoted}](name=Dr Mercy,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=PuTqEH58,comment-id=00050001000000000000,timestamp=2017-01-12T21:43:22.569+0000)
It doesn't seem that edgy at all, nor does the "sense of belonging", I think, own opinion, fit here at all.
That's the whole purpose of Zac's concept. A former mutant/weapon that a couple grew to love and raised it to love and live and feel a belonging in the world. How can you possibly think that the "sense of belonging" isn't core to Zac as a character?
Ralanr15 votesHe is good because he was raised well.
Mistress Madoka12 votesIt's more of a "Story about good parenting WIN" than a "boohoo muh purrents urr deeeeeeehd FAIL"
Valaran Nara9 votesThe thing with dead parents is that, sometimes it's done because "Oh, whoa is me," and sometimes it's done, so they character can be alone.
While having a family is fine, Zac's situation would have made his parents a focal point for conflict.
In fact, if they didn't put it in his background, we could have very well read the tragedy occur as it's on color text. His parents never left Zaun which means they were constantly under threat of Takeda.
But despite the dead parent thing, Zac's overall character has not changed in the least. In fact, all they really did was flesh out the background and changed up what happened to the scientists that adopted him.
Solidair35 votesI will say, I think I would prefer we not do the dead parents thing. Must that always be motivation? Still, this isn't the WORST thing I've ever read, and I like Zac as a character a lot, so I'm not too down about it.
I actually think living parents could have been an interesting thing for Zac (kinda like superman's adoptive parents sort-of-deal) but eh, I'll allow it, I guess.
So MANY champs' origin stories are dead parents tho, I hope we can like, chill on that for a bit.
warmcorntortilla5 votesRiot is starting to become Disney-esque in their adoration of killing moms, only Riot likes to keep it gender-equal and kill both your parents!
Bouncemaster Zac4 votesWhile it's certainly better written than his old lore (you genuinely could've summed up his original lore in 4 sentences and lost nothing.) I really feel throwing in tragedy for the sake of it wasn't really necessary at all. As several others in this thread have stated the tragedy just seems thrown in arbitrarily because every Champion has to have tragedy in their lore these days. Zac standing a mile out from the crowd as the "everything can work out if you try" hero is what endeared me to him. Now we have a "things don't work out but try anyway" hero and it's most definitely not the same. He does not need to be Bat-Goo-Man.
Sraeg20134 votesSo I've heard Janna's story is fine.
Guess for every good story there are two stories that turn their protagonist's personality upside-down.
...
Sad. Really sad.
Joseraph2 votes ?
Sraeg20131 votesBah, I knew I forgot about something important!
TheTrueQuarian3 votesSo did Riot :'(
