Who caused the explosion in Zaun? Is it why Vi Joined Cait? Jinx hinted

GenoXx·Dec 8, 2016·5 votes·1,782 views

So i'm wondering about this because there was an explosion zaun that was mentioned in Vi's and Oriana's lore. But this explosion is rumored to cause Vi's disappearance. Jinx was also mentioned.

> No one yet knows how Vi came to be working alongside Caitlyn, but whatever secret binds them together can only be guessed at. Given the personal nature of a recent crime wave sweeping Piltover, speculation runs rife that it involves a certain blue-haired hellion from Zaun...

Hmmm.....an explosion in Zaun and jinx...

19 Comments

SharjoDec 9, 20162 votes

I don't think it's the same considering (if my memory serves from this stuff) Orianna's been around for much longer than most of Piltover's cast, and so the explosion in her lore was probably years and years before the stuff happening in the present day.

I think. Blegh gotta reread it all, make sure I'm not crossing my wires.

RalanrDec 9, 20161 votes

I'n not so sure since Piltover was built on top of Zaun after the explosion. It was the explosion that made Zaun.

SharjoDec 9, 20161 votes

The thing is that explosion couldn't have been either of those seen in Orianna's or Vi's lore, since that shit blew up the entire landscape and made a breach in the sea for sea travel. The ones from the bios seem more self contained within the bounds of the cities. Plus the land's probably been like that for a few decades at least, well beyond the bounds of the lifetimes of Cait, Vi, Jayce and Ezreal at least. Maybe Orianna and Camille were around before then, but personally I doubt it.

I could be totally wrong here but I'm not convinced these incidents are all one and the same.

Glory ln DeathDec 9, 20161 votes

Definitely different events. Also, Jayce is almost certainly much older than people think, as far as the timeline goes. He for sure precedes Orianna, and is probably older than Camille, as well.

SharjoDec 9, 20161 votes

But Camille's in her 80s...

I don't see it.

Glory ln DeathDec 9, 20161 votes

Jayce is also working on the first hextech crystal. Camille fell in love with Hakim when she was young, and Hextech was already a thing at that time. At the very least, they're about the same age.

SharjoDec 9, 20161 votes

the thing is it's stated that Camille's ancestors found the first hexcrystals. The guys who found the one Jayce was working on were a different clan, and not only that they found the crystal; they didn't pry it from a Brackern's body. This implies the lifestone they found was a long buried one that had yet to be claimed, or had exchanged hands and was lost for a long time. With that in mind Jayce and Viktor could still be very much characters in the present who're as old as we've always expected, because there was no indication that the crystal from Jayce's lore was known to actually be a lifestone by the Piltie's, and they are fully aware of the Brackern despite this.

RalanrDec 9, 20161 votes

But didn't the stone give the song?

SharjoDec 9, 20161 votes

Yes but as it stands the explorers didn't know how lifestones were utilised and transfered by the Brackern, and so they only harvested them from Brackern bodies, not knowing they were also found in the earth. They can't easily communicate with the Brackern or lifestones, so there's no real way they could know that some random, seemingly inert crystal in the earth was actually a lifestone.

RalanrDec 9, 20161 votes

Oh. Sorry I didn't know that the brackern could be separated from the stones.

Glory ln DeathDec 9, 20161 votes

But that begs the question why Viktor needed Jayce's crystal specifically. And why Jayce couldn't find or make a strong enough battery for his hammer.

Unless you're arguing that this specific crystal was so ridiculously more powerful than any other Hextech crystals discovered that even a shard provided more power than other whole crystals.

And Camille's ancestors could have been from another clan - there's nothing to say clans don't intermarry for political reasons.

Plus, during Camille's time, all major science revolved around Hextech. It was the most difficult and prestigious branch of science - it took years to craft even a single item and Hextech was the technology that would allow Piltover to rule the world ,after all. Why would Jayce content himself with humdrum transforming tools? He'd go for the biggest and best.

SharjoDec 9, 20161 votes

Well the lifestones had varying levels of power considering the fact that Skarner can be among their strongest by virtue of his lifestone alone, but Viktor probably went to Jayce because:

He knew Jayce well enough to at least go and ask about it
True hexcrystals (non-synthetic) are hard to come by
They didn't know it was a lifestone so assumptions could've been that it was entirely different, and as such had greater potential

On the Camille point:

Camille's family gained most of its wealth through a rare crystal harvested from a creature native to the sands of a distant valley. These first hex-crystals, or 'first crystals', contained power normally reserved to those born with innate magical ability. Camille's Great-Great Aunt Elicia lost an arm, and nearly her life, during one such early expedition. Her sacrifice was celebrated, and it set an expectation that is still reflected in the Ferros family motto today, "For family, will I give."

The creatures Elicia Ferros found, the Skarner Brackern, were not an unending resource, and Camille's family had to look for ways to augment the crystals they had accumulated. Utilizing certain shadow investments in chemtech and runic alchemy, the Ferros family brought to market the less powerful, but easier to procure, synthetic hex-crystals. Such power often comes with consequences, and the production of synthetic crystals is rumored to be a heavy contributor to the Zaun Gray.

And the stuff you mention about hextech and Camille's time, that's still how it works in modern Piltover and Zaun. Hextech isn't easy to make or comeby in Runeterra and it's not mass produced.

Glory ln DeathDec 9, 20161 votes

So, the question remains: Especially since Hextech crystals are rare and expensive to find or produce, even in "modern" Piltover - why would a group of esteemed scientists (including Jayce, who seems to be the most intelligent in Piltover) not run something very similar to Hextech crystals through tests that Hextech crystals would go through?

That is asking me to believe that every scientist in a prestigious clan said, "Hmm. It came from the same region as Hextech crystals and is also a crystal. But it couldn't possibly be one since it wasn't found the same way. No reason to check to make sure." I'm not buying that.

There are really only two possibilities - Jayce's crystal is a Hextech crystal, or it is something else. If it is Hextech, it basically has to be the first.

The reason the first crystals are credited to the Ferris family could easily be due to the fact that Jayce's crystal was destroyed almost immediately, and the clan never found any others. The Ferros' crystals were the first to be found in a usable quantity and found consistently. As opposed to Jayce, who just had the one shard in his hammer.

GenoXxDec 9, 20161 votes

Im still curious why Cait chose Vi as a partner. Did she think that a zaunite could help take down another zaunite?

RalanrDec 9, 20161 votes

Maybe she took Tahm's advice.

XIII VanitasDec 9, 20162 votes

You're definitely right. The explosion that caused the Zaun Gray is described in Orianna's lore, but it's also mentioned in Camille's stories and it happened way before she got her augmentations, which means about 60 years ago. I really doubt Jinx and Vi have been around for so long.

ThorgramDec 9, 20161 votes

I think the explosion mentioned in Orianna's lore is the opening of the commercial passage that destroyed half of Zaun.

But yeah, in Vi's lore, it's definitely about Jinx bringing mayhem. It might be.

The problem is that we don't know the Vi/Jinx relationship ( i think a Rioter confirmed they weren't sisters back when Jinx got out, and with the howling Abyss interaction ). She isn't mentioned in Vi's description, which does delve quite in her teenage/gang days, so they probably weren't in the same gang.

It might be they were from the same orphanage, or were taken and experimented on at the same time.

It is also true that it's strange such a rebellious character works with Caitlyn.

tl;dr : Plot Hooks ! :D

GenoXxDec 9, 20161 votes

I'm really stoked for Jinx's lore, when it does come. Because we can finally get behind the scenes of Vi and Jinxs rivary

ThorgramDec 9, 20161 votes

Yeah, hope it will shed light on the obsession of Jinx with Vi :D

And maybe some flashbacks from Vi that would force her into difficult choices, and make the story really progress, Burning Tides-like.