Beekeeper Singed "delayed" to 7.20, now screw off - Riot

ryona·Oct 5, 2017·3 votes·1,992 views

https://boards.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/general-pbe-feedback/JMlk9ZoV-beekeeper-singed-delay

http://comicbook.com/gaming/2017/10/04/league-of-legends-beekeeper-singed-skin-delayed/

So have you been waiting for this skin for three weeks, after Arclight Yorick and our cash grab skins for Fiora, Janna, and Master Yi? Well stop fucking annoying us about this shit, we're delaying it now haha, fucking pests. Why do you people even bother with Singed? Go play a real champion smh.

Now anyways, if you don't complain about this shit again, you'll get your dumb skin two more weeks after 7.20 once we've made bank with our new and spicy Super Galaxy skins! Say any shit again and we'll move it to 7.21, okay? Hope you few Singed players learned a lesson, then we'll be gucci.

42 Comments

Weiner the PoohOct 5, 201714 votes

Oh no! They're fixing bugs, how fucking evil!

Oh wait no, they're just making sure the skin is as good as they can get it. It's not like those amumu and blitz skins that they actually cancelled. They're literally fixing bugs on it, it happens. Stop acting like the victim. I don't know what's with this victim craze on the boards recently but this is insane.

ryonaOct 5, 20172 votes

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Oh no! They're fixing bugs, how fucking evil!

Oh wait no, they're just making sure the skin is as good as they can get it. It's not like those amumu and blitz skins that they actually cancelled. They're literally fixing bugs on it, it happens. Stop acting like the victim. I don't know what's with this victim craze on the boards recently but this is insane.

This is what I mean by shilling weasels. Man, the things Riot can get away with in this day and age as long as it doesn't concern their E-Sports is staggering.

They could announce a deletion of Skarner from the game and people would still defend them.

Weiner the PoohOct 5, 20177 votes

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This is what I mean by shilling weasels. Man, the things Riot can get away with in this day and age as long as it doesn't concern their E-Sports is staggering.

They could announce a deletion of Skarner from the game and people would still defend them.

I'm defending them because they didn't do anything wrong, and because you're making it out to be something it's not. You're just whining and being overly dramatic, making accusations and just being flat out wrong.

ryonaOct 5, 20171 votes

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I'm defending them because they didn't do anything wrong, and because you're making it out to be something it's not. You're just whining and being overly dramatic, making accusations and just being flat out wrong.

Wait three fucking weeks for one non-legendary skin when they can pump out three skins and chromas day one after patch, and THEN have to wait another three weeks again just "because?" Am I being fucking dramatic over that?

Seriously just fucking STOP.

Weiner the PoohOct 5, 20177 votes

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Wait three fucking weeks for one non-legendary skin when they can pump out three skins and chromas day one after patch, and THEN have to wait another three weeks again just "because?" Am I being fucking dramatic over that?

Seriously just fucking STOP.

Its not "just because" they're fixing bugs lol. Do you want to buy a buggy ass skin? Do you want to buy an incomplete skin? No, you don't, its not like they cancelled it, its coming, they're just making sure its in the best possible state it can be.

ryonaOct 5, 20171 votes

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Its not "just because" they're fixing bugs lol. Do you want to buy a buggy ass skin? Do you want to buy an incomplete skin? No, you don't, its not like they cancelled it, its coming, they're just making sure its in the best possible state it can be.

Six weeks for one 975 skin for unpopular champions when they are quick to whore out Ahri skins at a frighteningly quicker pace by comparison.

From a business perspective, I'm sure it doesn't mean much to Riot if followings of underplayed champions were to fall off the face of the game, but it is fucking evil regardless.

ryonaOct 5, 20171 votes

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Its not "just because" they're fixing bugs lol. Do you want to buy a buggy ass skin? Do you want to buy an incomplete skin? No, you don't, its not like they cancelled it, its coming, they're just making sure its in the best possible state it can be.

gonna just rephrase this to you again with more clarity.

FIVE TO SIX WEEKS FOR ONE SKIN ANNOUNCED EVEN LONGER BEFORE THAT

DrCyanideOct 5, 20178 votes

I'm going to rephrase this for you again with more clarity:

FRAMES DROPPED WITH THIS SKIN IN GAME

You don't want to be unable to play the game just so you can use a skin 6 days sooner. Chill out!

ryonaOct 5, 20171 votes

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I'm going to rephrase this for you again with more clarity:

FRAMES DROPPED WITH THIS SKIN IN GAME

You don't want to be unable to play the game just so you can use a skin 6 days sooner. Chill out!

Just like how Jax is actively causing bugsplats and has still been freely running rampant in Solo Q for a week now, eh?

Like the worst part is until this debacle, I did nothing wrong. I'm sitting on Honor 4 and have been around since S2, and Riot wants to fuck me in the ass like this just because of petty distaste for a character of their own creation.

DrCyanideOct 5, 20175 votes

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Just like how Jax is actively causing bugsplats and has still been freely running rampant in Solo Q for a week now, eh?

Jax? I haven't seen anyone post about Jax in months. Who's saying Jax causes bugsplats?

Like the worst part is until this debacle, I did nothing wrong. I'm sitting on Honor 4 and have been around since S2, and Riot wants to fuck me in the ass like this just because of petty distaste for a character of their own creation.

What are you even talking about? Why would you think that Riot is fixing a bug to punish you?

Furthermore, Singed has received numerous buffs, bug fixes, and QoL improvements this year, and is currently the second highest win rate Top. He's far from being a forgotten champion.

ryonaOct 5, 20171 votes

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Jax? I haven't seen anyone post about Jax in months. Who's saying Jax causes bugsplats?

What are you even talking about? Why would you think that Riot is fixing a bug to punish you?

Furthermore, Singed has received numerous buffs, bug fixes, and QoL improvements this year, and is currently the second highest win rate Top. He's far from being a forgotten champion.

Fixing a fucking "bug" does not mean delaying a stand-alone, non-legendary skin by another three weeks.

And also, Riot is deeply displeased with Singed's performance. They only caved to QoL changes and buffs because of intense fan outcry, they wouldn't have given a rat's ass otherwise.

DrCyanideOct 5, 20175 votes

"another three weeks" implies it was already delayed. This was the first delay, it was due to release tomorrow. It's likely only going to be delayed 7 days total.

You're going to need some proof that Singed is so hated by Riot. Many other Champions have been far worse off despite far more vocal outcry than Singed has had.

You're acting extremely delusional, to the point I wonder if you've renamed the game "League of Singed"

ryonaOct 5, 20171 votes

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"another three weeks" implies it was already delayed. This was the first delay, it was due to release tomorrow. It's likely only going to be delayed 7 days total.

You're going to need some proof that Singed is so hated by Riot. Many other Champions have been far worse off despite far more vocal outcry than Singed has had.

You're acting extremely delusional, to the point I wonder if you've renamed the game "League of Singed"

If it's relegated to the next patch, it is not coming before their spicy new Super Galaxy skins! Day one release by the way.

Proof Riot hates Singed? Well, they said S3 meta Singed was the worst thing to ever happen to professional play, they didn't realize he was actually doing no proper damage to Baron for years, they once joked/quirped about his low playrate in response to Ghost buffs unrelated to him ("shoutout to the five Singed mains out there"), and they privately gathered Challenger Singed mains to properly buff him because they had no idea what to do otherwise as ideas of their own were scrapped patch after patch for a time. If no one bothered to speak up on what should be done, who knows how it could have panned out? It was an incredible stroke of luck.

And now there's this Beekeeper debacle.

SithesisLordOct 5, 20174 votes

Lmao, this has nothing to do with petty distaste.

THEY ARE FIXING A BUG.

A rather crippling one at that.

But hey, convince yourself of whatever you wish to sleep better at night, buddy friend.

Star GuardíanOct 5, 20175 votes

Am I being fucking dramatic over that?

Yes

ryonaOct 5, 20171 votes

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Yes

well memed. It would be funny if this were an appropriately non-serious issue.

The JigSAWOct 6, 20171 votes

Or more Yi and Xin buffs.

Singed is a fun champion, and with the eight billion skins for the melee crew we've been subjected to, is it really so hard to imagine those of us who love to play Singed had high hopes today of running around being chased by bees and causing all kinds of chaos in top lane? Also, I love Skarner and the way they basically left him to rot is criminal.

Thanks though Riot, was planning on a few games as Beekeeper Singed today but, now I can go level on Overwatch!

duckarpOct 5, 20171 votes

If I was fixing one feature for this long in my job, my client would immediately terminate the contract. It's not like Riot is trying some game-breaking feature that has never existed in the game before. It's just a skin and not even legendary/ultimate tier. OP constructed the message as a complete %#%$%, but he has a point.

ryonaOct 5, 20171 votes

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If I was fixing one feature for this long in my job, my client would immediately terminate the contract. It's not like Riot is trying some game-breaking feature that has never existed in the game before. It's just a skin and not even legendary/ultimate tier. OP constructed the message as a complete %#%$%, but he has a point.

you're damn fucking right I have a point.

People are just apathetic because it's Singed. If it were Ahri or some other ridiculous skank with this dilemma, people would be freaking out on mass.

Weiner the PoohOct 5, 20173 votes

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If I was fixing one feature for this long in my job, my client would immediately terminate the contract. It's not like Riot is trying some game-breaking feature that has never existed in the game before. It's just a skin and not even legendary/ultimate tier. OP constructed the message as a complete %#%$%, but he has a point.

LOL, so its a week late, big fucking deal. The skin is coming, its not like theyre attacking singed players, its not like theyre trying to spite you.

Pretty DhiziOct 5, 20173 votes

..You made ANOTHER goddamn post about this? Holy shit, that's sad.

ryonaOct 5, 20171 votes

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..You made ANOTHER goddamn post about this? Holy shit, that's sad.

in-case it isn't obvious to you, the situation has escalated for the worse. Much worse.

Pretty DhiziOct 5, 20173 votes

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in-case it isn't obvious to you, the situation has escalated for the worse. Much worse.

7.20 is the next incoming patch at the introduction of this upcoming pre-season. Rarely does a Rioter actually come out on the community to give clarity on a delay -- And this one had a good purpose, bug-fixing. Bugs can show up at any time, and it's a good thing they're trying to manage and clean them up ASAP so the skin will come out in its best quality. You're holding an argument against them for all the wrong reasons.

Also, i'm pretty sure there are multiple divisions for the skin development team, so a different group was probably working on the other skins in comparison to this Singed skin.

Like I said prior. Have some patience. Its one skin. I'd rather it come out with quality when it's 975 RP.

ryonaOct 5, 20171 votes

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7.20 is the next incoming patch at the introduction of this upcoming pre-season. Rarely does a Rioter actually come out on the community to give clarity on a delay -- And this one had a good purpose, bug-fixing. Bugs can show up at any time, and it's a good thing they're trying to manage and clean them up ASAP so the skin will come out in its best quality. You're holding an argument against them for all the wrong reasons.

Also, i'm pretty sure there are multiple divisions for the skin development team, so a different group was probably working on the other skins in comparison to this Singed skin.

Like I said prior. Have some patience. Its one skin. I'd rather it come out with quality when it's 975 RP.

This wouldn't be an issue if it were released the day after 7.20 in vein of those Chinese skins as compensation.

But the painful fact it is going to release after those fucking godawful Super Galaxy skins, despite originating as a skin from this patch, two to possibly even three weeks after ala Arclight Yorick to the Chinese skins, is just a fucking kick to the teeth.

We're not dealing with a Legendary skin here, once again.

Pretty DhiziOct 5, 20173 votes

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This wouldn't be an issue if it were released the day after 7.20 in vein of those Chinese skins as compensation.

But the painful fact it is going to release after those fucking godawful Super Galaxy skins, despite originating as a skin from this patch, two to possibly even three weeks after ala Arclight Yorick to the Chinese skins, is just a fucking kick to the teeth.

We're not dealing with a Legendary skin here, once again.

Quality goes into most of riots skins they develop now. I dunno if you're aware, but Singed used to have a incredibly bad bug that caused severe FPS lag when his poison was active on Q. The bug they have now could possibly be the same thing, or anything else that's game breaking. You really just need to be patient.

And to be honest, it doesn't sound like to me that you enjoy League, and you're clinging to money-bound cosmetic changes to give you any enjoyment in the game. In my honest opinion, i'd just say quit -- find a game you enjoy, and not be binding yourself to a game that's a pretty decently large money sink. If you don't enjoy this game and the only thing keeping you coming back is cosmetics, that's the wrong reason to be coming back.

ryonaOct 5, 20171 votes

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Quality goes into most of riots skins they develop now. I dunno if you're aware, but Singed used to have a incredibly bad bug that caused severe FPS lag when his poison was active on Q. The bug they have now could possibly be the same thing, or anything else that's game breaking. You really just need to be patient.

And to be honest, it doesn't sound like to me that you enjoy League, and you're clinging to money-bound cosmetic changes to give you any enjoyment in the game. In my honest opinion, i'd just say quit -- find a game you enjoy, and not be binding yourself to a game that's a pretty decently large money sink. If you don't enjoy this game and the only thing keeping you coming back is cosmetics, that's the wrong reason to be coming back.

You're predictably incapable of justifying why this one skin technically announced almost a month ago now is being pushed potentially a staggering five additional weeks after its acceptable release date. At least justify why it has to come after the Super Galaxy skins.

They don't say anything on this matter and won't because they don't give a shit and Riot is extremely unprofessional in the vein of Epic Games or Phil Fish.

Pretty DhiziOct 5, 20173 votes

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You're predictably incapable of justifying why this one skin technically announced almost a month ago now is being pushed potentially a staggering five additional weeks after its acceptable release date. At least justify why it has to come after the Super Galaxy skins.

They don't say anything on this matter and won't because they don't give a shit and Riot is extremely unprofessional in the vein of Epic Games or Phil Fish.

There is literally no correlation in the other skins being released to this one. And again -- it's a cosmetic, you're being highly unreasonable. And they already stated their reasoning. Hell, you provided the damn reasoning -- they're bugfixing the skin. Is it actually that hard to accept and learn to get some patience? I've never seen someone so off-kilter about a damn skin being released. No company is perfect. And you didn't address the other part of what I said -- Makes me assume that i'm right, and you're just clinging to cosmetic items to hold enjoyment in the game anymore. That's just not worthwhile.

ryonaOct 5, 20171 votes

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There is literally no correlation in the other skins being released to this one. And again -- it's a cosmetic, you're being highly unreasonable. And they already stated their reasoning. Hell, you provided the damn reasoning -- they're bugfixing the skin. Is it actually that hard to accept and learn to get some patience? I've never seen someone so off-kilter about a damn skin being released. No company is perfect. And you didn't address the other part of what I said -- Makes me assume that i'm right, and you're just clinging to cosmetic items to hold enjoyment in the game anymore. That's just not worthwhile.

It's not like you've ever witnessed me beg for skins that don't exist or propose ideas for skins like silly people.

This is a skin that allegedly exists, was announced, and everything else. When it drops I would be playing the game and not be here.

Waiting one or two weeks post-patch is acceptable. Seven weeks though for one ordinary skin? Fuck no, that's just spiteful.

Pretty DhiziOct 5, 20173 votes

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It's not like you've ever witnessed me beg for skins that don't exist or propose ideas for skins like silly people.

This is a skin that allegedly exists, was announced, and everything else. When it drops I would be playing the game and not be here.

Waiting one or two weeks post-patch is acceptable. Seven weeks though for one ordinary skin? Fuck no, that's just spiteful.

You must not realize how much time it takes to make cosmetic changes, especially ones that alter particle effects. And Singed has a /lot/ of particle effects. Do a little research, you'd be surprised. Nothing 'spiteful' is occurring. As I said in your prior thread -- You're just being impatient, especially over something as insignificant as a cosmetic item that brings nothing more than altered visual effects to the game, with no gameplay alteration.

ryonaOct 5, 20171 votes

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You must not realize how much time it takes to make cosmetic changes, especially ones that alter particle effects. And Singed has a /lot/ of particle effects. Do a little research, you'd be surprised. Nothing 'spiteful' is occurring. As I said in your prior thread -- You're just being impatient, especially over something as insignificant as a cosmetic item that brings nothing more than altered visual effects to the game, with no gameplay alteration.

You're still justifying seven weeks for one skin or at the least not mentioning that.

Vhan8765Oct 5, 20172 votes

I'm not even a Singed player but even I'm annoyed by Riot's lack of attention to these kinds of things.

ryonaOct 5, 20172 votes

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I'm not even a Singed player but even I'm annoyed by Riot's lack of attention to these kinds of things.

I guess if I had to say anything, I am also at fault for putting any hopeful expectations or measure of trust into this corporate entity.

But yeah, I'm through and it's been a wild ride. Of course, a few of their shilling weasels will race to their defense over this, but logically you can't even say anything in its defense.

TyrekGoldenspearOct 5, 20177 votes

I honestly cannot believe you are saying anything in this thread with anything resembling conviction.

ryonaOct 5, 20171 votes

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I honestly cannot believe you are saying anything in this thread with anything resembling conviction.

conviction

um....

https://gasmo.imgur.com/

I literally came back to the game after four months for Beekeeper. Needless to say, I'm not pleased considering this shit.

TyrekGoldenspearOct 5, 20176 votes

Dude. If it's been 4 months I think you can handle 7 days for bugfixes.

ryonaOct 5, 20172 votes

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Dude. If it's been 4 months I think you can handle 7 days for bugfixes.

I wasn't waiting four months for Beekeeper. I quit the game because it was fucking terrible and still is a chore to play.

Skins are an incentive to maintain players or at the least keep disgruntled ones happy. Also, I was really stressed out last week because I was decayed from Diamond 3 to Platinum 4 and it took a few days to get back Diamond. That wasn't difficult for me but the stress of putting up with horrible Platinum players at all really shook me up.

If my skin was delivered after it was said and done, I would've been happy/pacified and still playing. But no, it wasn't, and here we are.

TyrekGoldenspearOct 5, 20174 votes

Look, I know this skin must really appeal to you. But think of it this way.

Skins are a temporary solution. Eventually, maybe even sooner than you think, you'll grow tired of this skin like his other skins and you'll be back where you are now.

It's pretty clear you dislike playing this game, so why not save your money and your blood pressure and play a different game? There are oodles of them out there.

ryonaOct 5, 20171 votes

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Look, I know this skin must really appeal to you. But think of it this way.

Skins are a temporary solution. Eventually, maybe even sooner than you think, you'll grow tired of this skin like his other skins and you'll be back where you are now.

It's pretty clear you dislike playing this game, so why not save your money and your blood pressure and play a different game? There are oodles of them out there.

You basically just said: Look Riot can break their promises and goals if they so please, so can you fuck off? You little shit! You're one consumer in millions, it doesn't matter if you're satisfied or not.

That aside, no, I wouldn't get tired of this skin, I've put so much faith into it because it's Singed's only good skin.

The extreme bitterness is probably exacerbated tenfold by how Riot released Yorick's skin stand-alone the other day, a skin in exactly similar quality to Beekeeper.

abelhaOct 5, 20172 votes

the problem is that they announce the skin, then they dont release it nor say when its going to get released, that's what annoys people who are waiting, waiting day after day after day and now they delay the release.. what a horrible marketing team

ryonaOct 5, 20171 votes

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the problem is that they announce the skin, then they dont release it nor say when its going to get released, that's what annoys people who are waiting, waiting day after day after day and now they delay the release.. what a horrible marketing team

it's horrible marketing because they don't give a shit for any champion outside E-Sports or pornographic relevance.

It makes me wonder why they even bothered other than to troll.