Narrative, How about you let he community help with the lore?

GenoXx··2 votes·944 views

I propose an idea. That would be both fun for the community and benefitting the lore of League of Legends. And it could maybe speed things up a bit(don't take it the wrong way)

Since Certain parts would take time to build or re-build in the lore, how about Narative/Riot choose people from the lore community to help out with it? I've been to factions, CupCakeTrap and any other staff there have done a good job with making stories and involving the community. Maybe Narrative can pick people like they do with the pbe? Well, of course likely candidates. No one would want to hire someone who e a troll making official lore. People maybe like Captain Marvelous who makes those Myths and Theories. I am only speaking on likely candidates that I've seen so far, there are more. But think about it, it could also mend the wound people believe Narrative have caused.

The way I picture it, Narrative can pick likely candidates from what they have seen on the Story and Art boards so far. Of course it's not like everything discussed would be public. But The candidates picked would go and discuss with the lore community about what part of lore or which location they would like them to work on. Then this group would report to Narrative about what they are going to do. And while they choose to help write this story or stories, Narrative can still work on parts that they were already working on. Leaving a section they aren't on to the Sub-Narrative team from the community.

This way I think the lore could be brought at a good pace and the community would be a lot happier. Because they are actually speaking on what they want, and at the same time are communicating with Narrative at the same time. All the while, lore being given at a faster pace.(No offense) I thought about this idea for a month now. There is already a pbe, maybe there could be a pbe for lore specifically. Pbe seems to be focused on gameplay more, so having a separate pbe for lore only doesn't seem like a bad idea. I've seen that you fellows want to serialize the lore. Maybe the group can make short stories every week. Or even comics. I've seen people with good fan art here. Maybe candidates with art could also help. Maybe it's a good idea that's both fun and beneficial for both the Narrative and the community. The key thing here is communication, cooperation, and consistent lore. I think those are the crucial points im making here. But it's just a small suggestion. But please think about it, It would make a lot of people happier, I believe.

11 Comments

LordHippoman2 votes

Too many chefs spoil the soup.

The problem is that let's say, for example, you want to write a story where Garen and Katarina get together. That's been teased before, okay, whatever. But then the shippers get involved and "No, you can't do that, Katarina is clearly meant for Talon!". Then the next group says "Yeah, but Garen is totally dating Lux in MY CANON (ew)." Then the crazy guy comes in waving his elaborately crafted Katarina sexual fantasy with a "mysterious new summoner" who happens to have the same name as him and suddenly everything collapses.

That's an overblown example, but it's best that there's at least someone who can put their foot down consistently and say "No, sorry, this is happening." on some things. I think it's a good idea to test the waters and see what people think about certain ideas and champs, like the IronStylus Taric threads, but actually making fanon canon can be utterly disastrous.

(also you might want to start putting two space bars inbetween paragraphs, makes it easier to read.)

GenoXx1 votes

Well that's when I said likely candidates . Of course we don't want 14 yrs being among the picked. And if not, the right choice would e not to involve romance anyway. Too many people post who they want to Ship(cough Xano cough) So a smarter choice would not to involve romance or let Narrative handle that situation, if they ever had plans for that

Diahane1 votes

Too many chefs spoil the soup.

The problem is that let's say, for example, you want to write a story where Garen and Katarina get together. That's been teased before, okay, whatever. But then the shippers get involved and "No, you can't do that, Katarina is clearly meant for Talon!". Then the next group says "Yeah, but Garen is totally dating Lux in MY CANON (ew)." Then the crazy guy comes in waving his elaborately crafted Katarina sexual fantasy with a "mysterious new summoner" who happens to have the same name as him and suddenly everything collapses.

That's an overblown example, but it's best that there's at least someone who can put their foot down consistently and say "No, sorry, this is happening." on some things. I think it's a good idea to test the waters and see what people think about certain ideas and champs, like the IronStylus Taric threads, but actually making fanon canon can be utterly disastrous.

(also you might want to start putting two space bars inbetween paragraphs, makes it easier to read.)

Yep. We shouldn't confuse "Riot should listen to the community" with "Riot should have the community decide". The first is a good thing, the second a terrible one, though the line is pretty thin. Riot should listen when it comes to the general direction and themes of characters and their world, but it should be the one making the calls about what exactly happens in the story, as long as that doesn't go against the very core of what the story and characters are supposed to be about. Example: having Trundle and Xerath become different characters without asking for community feedback and without reverting the decision even though the community doesn't really like it is how not to do the first thing. Having Swain become Grand General at the expense of the Du Couteau family it's instead a good example of how they should engage story progression. No core themes altered, plus character progression, even though that means that some characters like Katarina get a blow from it. But it's good because Katarina, Cassiopeia and Talon as characters are not altered, but progressed; they simply are shown living through those events.

GenoXx1 votes

Well I tried to propose a good idea. Downvotes prove otherwise....

Earl Eulrich1 votes

Oh well, this should have happened way before the retcon - now I think it´s kinda too late too start caring about Community-involvement if they are unwilling to rethink their retcon. First insulting all the work done before and then trying to work together is just not likely to work out well.

GenoXx1 votes

I understand that it may not. At the same time it might just be for the better. If willing writers that have posted on boards cooperate for the sake of the lore community, it may just have a better outcome then u think.

GenoXx1 votes

Guys try to explain your opinion before considering No, just because please. I wanted to make it a discussion. Think about it. with this you wouldn't have to worry about how long or when or what the lore is doing or going. Come on guys....

brusque1 votes

I meant my comment in light jest. Overwhelming evidence actually suggests that the community can help with the lore, insofar as it can communicate with Rioters about feedback on old/new stories, which the community just has to assume will be listened to.

Evidence also shows that "No!" is the answer from Riot. Look at Shurima, the Sion rework, and the latest Harrowing video. They were released as new content meant to make you feel surprised and awed by Runeterra, and in order to maintain that surprise the community wasn't consulted on what would be included in those videos. From a marketing perspective, it makes complete sense. From a community perspective, it has flashback potential.

Your suggestions are interesting, but I don't know. Involving too many people in a story can be a good thing, but it can also be a bad thing. The challenge is how do you create a productive story environment with the community? I am not sure using PBE is the answer, nor do I have any other suggestions at this point as to how to do it most optimally.

GenoXx1 votes

if not that theres always chats you could go to in game client. Riot should stop thinking they know whats best. And people will get upset because of that. That's why I am suggesting this idea.

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