[Speculation] Could Vladimir be the lonely prince that Shaco was crafted for?

Warlord Rhinark·Nov 13, 2018·20 votes·13,819 views

Due to the recent lore revelations that Vladimir was once a prince of an unknown kingdom, is it possible that Shaco was crafted for him?

I mean, there wasn't exactly any princesses around and if Vladimir's current personality is anything to go by, it is very possible that he might've been or still is lonely.

Him being offered as a slave to serve the Darkin could be the moment that Shaco "lost his beloved charge".

It's possible that Vladimir later found Shaco when he assaulted his own father's kingdom, and that it was his Blood Magic that is the dark magic that corrupted Shaco into what he is now.

Perhaps Vladimir uses Shaco as his own personal Assassin that he sends after political opponents in Noxus?

I don't know. What are you guys thoughts on this?

16 Comments

Zero DriveNov 13, 201817 votes

I think he belonged to Amumu. Amumu is confirmed to be a Shuriman Prince, so who is to say Shaco was not a gift from a foreign national? The same curse that afflicted Amumu could very well be the same dark magic that warped Shaco. It's easy to imagine a spoiled brat Amumu pissing off some Ambassador mage who sent him Shaco (with a curse hidden within that corrupted them both).

Warlord RhinarkNov 13, 20185 votes

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Amumu is confirmed to be a Shuriman Prince, so who is to say Shaco was not a gift from a foreign national? The same curse that afflicted Amumu could very well be the same dark magic that warped Shaco. It's easy to imagine a spoiled brat Amumu pissing off some Ambassador mage who sent him Shaco (with a curse hidden within that corrupted them both).

I don't think it's as easy as you think.

Amumu is several thousands years old. Shurima might as well have been the only nation that existed back then (along with Targon).

And even if other nations existed, I don't think Shurima actively went out contacting them and mostly just kept to themselves.

And even if they contacted them, I don't think they would necessarily be on the best of terms as Shurima was known to have slaves back then.

The IcebornNov 13, 20181 votes

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I don't think it's as easy as you think.

Amumu is several thousands years old. Shurima might as well have been the only nation that existed back then (along with Targon).

And even if other nations existed, I don't think Shurima actively went out contacting them and mostly just kept to themselves.

And even if they contacted them, I don't think they would necessarily be on the best of terms as Shurima was known to have slaves back then.

Actually Freljord existed before Shurima.. Targon and Freljord both coexisted long ago

Warlord RhinarkNov 13, 20181 votes

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Actually Freljord existed before Shurima.. Targon and Freljord both coexisted long ago

Freljord existed, but does Shaco look Freljordian to you?

GneshNov 13, 20186 votes

what do you mean? he looks like an exact twin to braum

The IcebornNov 14, 20182 votes

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Freljord existed, but does Shaco look Freljordian to you?

He looks like a doll XD He doesnt look Shuriman, Freljordian or Targonian he is simply a doll created from wood I would guess.. Wood that can be found anywhere

Warlord RhinarkNov 14, 20181 votes

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He looks like a doll XD He doesnt look Shuriman, Freljordian or Targonian he is simply a doll created from wood I would guess.. Wood that can be found anywhere

This look wooden to you?

https://i.imgur.com/nVcZbB6.jpg/img

https://i.imgur.com/dIP0Rxm.png/img

The IcebornNov 14, 20181 votes

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This look wooden to you?

https://i.imgur.com/nVcZbB6.jpg/img

https://i.imgur.com/dIP0Rxm.png/img

Doesnt matter, wood or wool he was just a doll

Warlord RhinarkNov 14, 20182 votes

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Doesnt matter, wood or wool he was just a doll

He was, but he don't look much Freljordian to me.

The IcebornNov 14, 20181 votes

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He was, but he don't look much Freljordian to me.

I understand your point and Honestly I would be on your side I just have a feeling that he is from Freljord.. Just hope his Lore gets updated soon, considering Eve and Nocturnes was and they fall in a similar category

Warlord RhinarkNov 14, 20182 votes

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I understand your point and Honestly I would be on your side I just have a feeling that he is from Freljord.. Just hope his Lore gets updated soon, considering Eve and Nocturnes was and they fall in a similar category

I just don't really understand where this "feeling" stems from.

Nothing in Shaco's lore, neither the old nor the current, has mentioned Freljord.

The IcebornNov 14, 20181 votes

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I just don't really understand where this "feeling" stems from.

Nothing in Shaco's lore, neither the old nor the current, has mentioned Freljord.

Honestly Id just wait for him to get his lore updated

mrmeddymanNov 13, 20182 votes

I think the most popular theory is that the prince was the son of The Ruined King

Warlord RhinarkNov 14, 20181 votes

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I think the most popular theory is that the prince was the son of The Ruined King

That would imply that he did have a son, that is.

Which seems odd as that wasn't mentioned in neither Kalista's, nor Hecarim's stories.

Ionian VulpixNov 14, 20181 votes

Have they updated Shaco's lore at all? There is a lot they can do with this trope.

EdgeLadyNov 14, 20181 votes

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Have they updated Shaco's lore at all? There is a lot they can do with this trope.

Not at all, although I've heard he's high priority for a rework or visual update. The little lore bio he has might even be a placeholder, for all we know, and he could be retconned back into an actual person like how Nautilus was retconned back into an actual former sailor (or something else entirely could happen with him; we won't know until a real update comes).