Please relate Brand to a lore, I cannot stand his lack of identity.

Lùmen·Oct 21, 2016·8 votes·1,408 views

Ever since the Summoners lore fell apart Brand lost his identity. I believe that as a spirit of fire that was trapped in a cage of ice, he can be presented as a potential nemesis of the Watchers in the Freljord, as if him and the Watchers were just born to battle each other until the end of time, but they decided to subdue him and lock him up because like the case with Xerath, he could simply not be destroyed by them.. And now that he's out and he has a host (the human body that he took over) he is looking for revenge and probably has a burning hatred for Lissandra and most likely perceives all Freljordians alike as enemies.

There is so much potential to this fellow, Rito please?

26 Comments

N PelosiOct 21, 20163 votes

My Brand Lore: One day Yasuo farted while Annie was setting him on fire. The resulting flame cloud set a random spectator on fire. He now permenantly burns for vengeance.

Moonboy65Oct 21, 20161 votes

10/10

Ebonmaw DragonOct 21, 20163 votes

"Ever since the Summoners lore fell apart Brand lost his identity. "

Nocturne Please tell me more

BârdOct 22, 20162 votes

Jax LeeSin Fiddlesticks

Leona is WaifuOct 21, 20162 votes

I'm pretty sure he was mentioned (not by name) in the Shurima lore. Renekton and Nasus had to fight and seal a fire thingy in a tomb. This could possibly be Brand.

LùmenOct 21, 20161 votes

I don't know who's the fool who twisted this lore and presented it to you that way but Renekton and Nasus battled Xerath and the fight ended up in Renekton sacrificing himself by lunging at Xerath and holding him while Nasus locked the tomb, sealing both of them up for a really long time. This is literally the example that I just used.. It'd be cool if Brand was a corrupted ascendant like Xerath, but it just doesn't seem to make sense for how it'll work out .

TyrekGoldenspearOct 21, 20162 votes

You are both right in a sense.

Brand was the fire creature that distracted Nasus and Renekton by his rampage on the other end of Shurima, giving Xerath time and the ability to pull a fast on Azir and steal his Ascension.

LùmenOct 21, 20161 votes

Even if the hint is true, why is Brand only presented as a distraction method in the Shurima lore? This is an insult. [zombie-brand-mindblown]

Beyond LegendsOct 23, 20161 votes

because he wasn't the main part of the story? Insult of what?

GreenLoreOct 21, 20166 votes

They battled BOTH a being made of fire and Xerath.

Taken directly from Xeraths lore:

Nasus and Renekton were absent from the day’s events, for Xerath had arranged a distraction for them by weakening the seal on a magical sarcophagus containing a beast of living fire. When that creature finally broke its bindings, Renekton and Nasus were the only warriors capable of defeating it. Thus Xerath had stripped Azir of the only two beings who might save him from what was to come.

The Sarcophagus that holds now Xerath was actually used to seal that "beast of living fire".

Leona is WaifuOct 21, 20162 votes

First of all, I just read the lore. No one "presented" it to me. Also, I know the lore of Xerath, and this wasn't him. GreenLore knows what I'm talking about.

LùmenOct 21, 20161 votes

He's right in one way, but Xerath was the one battling the two. It is written in a very clear way, no hints, no nothing. That's like a huge part of the lore. Even partially explained through a cinematic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKnM6Hh5gOg Renekton and Xerath emerge from the tomb after a millennia spent in it. Explain how they got there. Nasus (THE NARRATOR) himself says he locked him away. By your logic, Brand and Nasus teamed up to lock them up. You're confusing this one with the troubles that Renekton and Nasus were dealing with (The distraction set up by Xerath so they would not get in the way of his plan to steal Azir's ascension)

The fight that i was talking about was the specific one where Renekton and Xerath ended up locked up in there. Just as I mentioned before and am repeating for clarity, this specific and not-so-thoroughly explained battle or trouble they had was whatever it is that Xerath had in mind to distract them.

Leona is WaifuOct 21, 20162 votes

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You're confusing this one with the troubles that Renekton and Nasus were dealing with (The distraction set up by Xerath so they would not get in the way of his plan to steal Azir's ascension)

That's what I've been talking about this entire time. I know that Renek and Nasus fought and sealed Xerath. I was talking about Brand MAYBE being the spirit they took the sarcophagus from.

LùmenOct 21, 20161 votes

You'd have to be more specific than that considering I have no knowledge over any given hints of Brand's existence in any legitimate lores as of the moment because of the clear indication of ignorance over my thread the first place Didn't even realize you were talking about a sarcophagus the first place..

So.. Is the whole thing with 'fire beast' and the sarcophagus a candidate to have a relation to Brand or is it just some corrupted ascendant, ancient enemy, etc... Wish I had a Rioter to break it down to me here

FasmodeyOct 22, 20161 votes

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You'd have to be more specific than that considering I have no knowledge over any given hints of Brand's existence in any legitimate lores as of the moment because of the clear indication of ignorance over my thread the first place Didn't even realize you were talking about a sarcophagus the first place..

So.. Is the whole thing with 'fire beast' and the sarcophagus a candidate to have a relation to Brand or is it just some corrupted ascendant, ancient enemy, etc... Wish I had a Rioter to break it down to me here

They already confirmed it is Brand, It was even my question. Friend above is right.

Legacy of XionOct 21, 20162 votes

How do you think us Kayle/Morgana fans feel?

They got gutted lore wise so hard...

LùmenOct 21, 20161 votes

Trust me, I feel your pain.. But yeah, the Morg\Kayle situation is much worse than Brand's due to it being a bigger and more complex lore so it'd be even harder to fix it up in a new one

Legacy of XionOct 21, 20162 votes

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Trust me, I feel your pain.. But yeah, the Morg\Kayle situation is much worse than Brand's due to it being a bigger and more complex lore so it'd be even harder to fix it up in a new one

As a Kayle main and someone who enjoyed the grey area, the moral ambiguity of both Kayle and Morgana and the character development that could turn this grey black and white, that could actually make the two characters what they appear but with a lot cooler backstory and really stories that brought them from what they were to what they could be...

There's so much that can be done I just hope they don't become flying chicken people of Targon :|

TyrekGoldenspearOct 21, 20161 votes

Ask Sharjo. He knows all about lore.

But personally I would love for him to get fully fleshed out lore. I don't care if they make him Lissandra's ex, that would make his lore more interesting than it is now.

Meep ManOct 21, 20161 votes

I thought they tied him to the Freljord as something trapped by the Watchers. Once the Freljord story begins, he will likely show up, likely around the time Lissandra gets into trying to bring dem Watchers back

yoshi2790Oct 22, 20161 votes

I'd love to see a Lissandra vs Brand rivalry!

DarnathOct 22, 20161 votes

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I'd love to see a Lissandra vs Brand rivalry!

Lissandra according to current official informations already wrecked him hard. True Ice is effective even against fire.

yoshi2790Oct 22, 20161 votes

Oh, didn't know that.

GULAG 4 UOct 22, 20161 votes

He is the fire of veangance :O

BârdOct 22, 20161 votes

Brand is an ancient spirit of fire. He consumes lives to sustain himself as a fire consumes logs.

He has been around for more than 1,000 years, as he was sealed by Shurima long before the rise of Azir, and he was released by Xerath to force Nasus and Renekton away from the capital, so he could hijack the ascension ceremony.

Here is where we aren't quite sure what happened to him; he was found sealed in a true-ice cage, so he was likely imprisoned by the Watchers; it could have been done by the freljord, but as the knowledge of Brand's location wasn't commonly held enough for Kegan Rodhe to avoid that cave, it was likely something that happened before the Freljordians started keeping written records of this kind of thing.

Beyond LegendsOct 23, 20161 votes

Brand never had much of a personality in the old lore other than he was some sort of vegeneful spirit set to burn the old world. Like what do you want to expand more upon?