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I have mixed feelings about Gangplank and Miss. Fortune

Chromatic Eagle··39 votes·12,518 views

For the record, I loved the story. This has set a new standard for lore and I hope Riot improves. Having said that, a part of me misses the old Gangplank. While I'll never call him a good man, I never would have taken him as the type to murder an entire family, burn their workshop, and destroy the guns he wanted made purely out of spite. I think it's a bit out of character even for the new Gangplank. He seems like a brutally fair man.

As for Miss Fortune, I'm happy that she had her past concluded, which was also developed. However, I feel conflicted on her now darker, more brutal and manipulative personality. I feel bad for her, but can't help but judge her either. I can accept having a burning hatred for Gangplank, but I liked their "friendly" rivalry, especially when it was thought that he was the boy that saved her when they were younger.

My biggest question however is the Harrowing Event. Is the part involving these two canon? I can't see her working together with the man that caused her so much pain.

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RiotBioluminescence27 votes

I actually find the idea of them having to work together to (barely) fend off a Harrowing, quite interesting actually. It happened before Miss Fortune revealed her out-and-out hatred for Gangplank, so while she might be seething inside at having to sail alongside him, it's certainly not an act that she hadn't had to put on before.

I imagine it playing out where she almost seemed flattered that the great and powerful Captain Gangplank would call her up to assist in his epic fight against the Shadow Isles incursion. And Captain Gangplank would be playing it off like it was throwing the other captains a bone to even let them come along - as he's obviously too powerful to need 'help'.

In the end, they work together because otherwise Bilgewater would have been completely overrun, and neither of them want that. The mental gymnastics that both had to go through to make that temporary alliance right in their heads would probably have kept several psychologists busy for years.

Sharjo18 votes

This brings up something interesting thought. With Gangplank dethroned and Bilgewater in chaos, what's gonna stop an eleventh Harrowing from running through the entirety of Bilgewater and the Blue Flame Isles? Last time it took Nautilus splitting the undead forces and a unified armada to barely do it, and even than there were major casualties and Smuggler's Cove was just straight up wrecked.

With the chaos that'll have engulfed Bilgewater now, I fear for when the next Harrowing rolls on by.

RiotBioluminescence37 votes

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This brings up something interesting thought. With Gangplank dethroned and Bilgewater in chaos, what's gonna stop an eleventh Harrowing from running through the entirety of Bilgewater and the Blue Flame Isles? Last time it took Nautilus splitting the undead forces and a unified armada to barely do it, and even than there were major casualties and Smuggler's Cove was just straight up wrecked.

With the chaos that'll have engulfed Bilgewater now, I fear for when the next Harrowing rolls on by.

...

...

... I'm sure it'll be fine.

Wheatloaf27 votes

Only one faction is strong enough now...

My fingers are now crossed for the Void vs the Shadow Isles.

Noam Braumsky7 votes

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Only one faction is strong enough now...

My fingers are now crossed for the Void vs the Shadow Isles.

My body is ready

Rew7113 votes

Well first, the Void could use a support.

Noam Braumsky4 votes

Velkoz

Rew7112 votes

sadly, he's a better mage than support. so far, we have 5 from the Viod, minus Kassadin who's also from Runeterra. I want the sixth to be a pure support like how Kha'Zix is a assassin, Kog'Maw is a marksman, Vel'Koz is a pure mage, Cho'Gath is a tank, and Rek'Sai is a pure fighter.

Noam Braumsky1 votes

Malz is definitely of the Void. All his power is void-derived.

Rew7111 votes

He's from Shurima. But he supports the Voids views. This doesn't make him a support, as he's a Mage/Assassin.

Noam Braumsky1 votes

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He's from Shurima. But he supports the Voids views. This doesn't make him a support, as he's a Mage/Assassin.

He is technically Shuriman but the only reason he's a champion is because the Void has complete control over him. He doesn't support the Void's views, he is the Void's views.

Malzahar as a person is dead. He exists now only as the harbinger of the Void's chaos.

gaby1best1 votes

U wot? Bandle city for the WIN! Imagine Shadow Isles trying to invade Bandle City and going through Teemo's forests to do it.

Noam Braumsky2 votes

Actually, I participated in that exact story through Factions, an organization where we play private featured matches after declaring for a faction (Ionia, Bandle City, Shurima, etc.). The results of the matches determines the course of the plot arc.

The Yordles decided to blast open an ancient shuriman tomb, which just happened to be the home of a necromantic lich. Piltover Demacia and Zaun, the other competing factions, all had to band together to prevent an undead apocalypse at Bandle City.

Stuff happened, and eventually Zaun defeated Demacia in a historic battle across Shurima. Good stuff :)

Crowe Stalker1 votes

It should be put like this: It took a combined effort from Demacia, a recently buffed up Zaun, and Piltover to prevent the Yordles from being victims of Undead Genocide.

Also Bandle City and Shadow Isles are the weakest factions in League Factions, but since Shadow Isles got Kalista I think they're farther ahead.

Nilok9 votes

Malzahar :"Only we can save you from undeath, now swear your flesh to the elder gods!" MissFortune :"...I may have made a poor choice or two."

sp4414 votes

Aatrox :"Yes you did, would you like some help with that?"

terkmc3 votes

Riot release next champion, Cthul'Hu.

YumaS2Astral1 votes

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Only one faction is strong enough now...

My fingers are now crossed for the Void vs the Shadow Isles.

Oh my f... This is my life's dream

sp4412 votes

Considering that Miss Fortune completely snapped and gets weird looks from Renekton for being too bloodthirsty now, I think the Shadow Isles are going to have to think twice before they decide to cross her.

Either that or they'll need outside help, since Bilgewater will be weakned due to her little massacre.

ArcticSirius8 votes

Fine as in "we all live happily ever after" fine or fine as in "we all die without hardly giving them a fight and join the undead legion" fine?

RiotBioluminescence17 votes

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Fine as in "we all live happily ever after" fine or fine as in "we all die without hardly giving them a fight and join the undead legion" fine?

Probably, yes. No guarantees though.

sp4419 votes

Shit, it just occurred to me.

Overwhelming numbers? Tendency to bloodthirstiness on weak side barely contained by a sense of righteousness?

Maybe Fortune can hold out on her own after all... I think a certain Blade might be willing to lend it's services to her...

Auroramancer2 votes

Do you speak of Irelia or Katarina ?

sp44112 votes

Why nobody remembers Aatrox ?

Auroramancer4 votes

Because the theory of the Darkin being weapons (and in this case, Aatrox being a Blade) is not yet confirmed, so people don't associate "a certain Blade" with Aatrox at all times. Rather, like myself, they may associate "Blade" with "the Will of the Blades" (whose lore is based on winning an impossible battle) or "the Sinister Blade" (who could be considered bloodthirsty).

That aside, yes, Aatrox would be a great candidate for helping Bilgewater fight against the Black Mist during the Harrowing

sp4416 votes

I was referring to his title, the Darkin Blade.

I mean, helping losing sides against overwhelming odds is his thing, he helps you win in exchange for you ever being able to sleep at night.

Auroramancer4 votes

I forgot that was his title.

I'm bad and I feel bad

sp4414 votes

You are a dumb.

Go to the corner and wear the hat of shame.

MrBuffington12 votes

inb4 all bilgewater champions die

brought to you by GRRM

Quort3 votes

Can't they just import Vayne, Lucian, Maokai and some other super dedicated evil slayers? I don't think any of them would have problems with an opportunity to kick Shadow Isle buttocks! :3

sp4414 votes

Maokai doesn't deal with non-tree related things, and Vayne and Lucian are too busy sitting atop gargoyles moping.

OuttaControl561 votes

Great forward thinking by Miss Fortune. She reaaaaaaaalllly has her priorities straight!

Celio Hogane HD2 votes

funny enough, there is arround 3 months untill new harrowing, will be know if everything just gets fucked up? now i want to know!

Chromatic Eagle11 votes

How big is the harbor anyway? We want maps. We want maps.

stares at Bio

We want maps.

terkmc4 votes

Plot twist, both gp and mf dies, Nautilus becomes king of Bilgewater

RiotRiotJaredan6 votes

Yeah, Bilgewater isn't the safest of places at the best of times. Right now, after Gangplank's fall, there's a lot going wrong, and if the Harrowing hit it could be catastrophic.

ExecutorDill1 votes

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Yeah, Bilgewater isn't the safest of places at the best of times. Right now, after Gangplank's fall, there's a lot going wrong, and if the Harrowing hit it could be catastrophic.

Everyone enjoying tbese events and i#m just like... Waiting for an Ionian Event. Did they hqve one before?

Potato Doc3 votes

Welcome to the reason why you will never know what the innerverating locket is and why you have the ionian boots https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAgzWCXEPT4

Potato Doc1 votes

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Yeah, Bilgewater isn't the safest of places at the best of times. Right now, after Gangplank's fall, there's a lot going wrong, and if the Harrowing hit it could be catastrophic.

Actually I find this possibly an interesting route to take with the lore, Bilgewater realizes around the time of the harrowing the state that it is in. Many know their fate, but no one wants to talk about it, suddenly almost over night Bilgewater is abandoned for the time being. Now without the front line of defense against the shadow isles and its harrowing, other places now must make their stand (sorry im not up to snuff about runeterra geography). But how will they make their stand against a threat only bilgewater ever defended against? The governments vastly unprepared for the wave of chaos. MF Nautilus and possibly GP are up for grabs as well as anyone else from bilgewater but knowing that their town is now over run by the harrowing will they choose to help the others defend? or will they leave without question, letting the others who they defended for so long without even the slightest thanks, finally pay their price?

The possibilities opening up the shadow isles interaction with the rest of runeterra and finally revealing more about the champions from there is exciting. Im ready to know more about the metal giant mordekaiser, or even the tragic past of hecarim (well to me the dialogue in TT to him makes it sound tragic). The married souls trapped in the platforms will have a play in this? Theres a lot to go on. I cant wait to see the way you guys take this :3

Krizalid4 votes

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I actually find the idea of them having to work together to (barely) fend off a Harrowing, quite interesting actually. It happened before Miss Fortune revealed her out-and-out hatred for Gangplank, so while she might be seething inside at having to sail alongside him, it's certainly not an act that she hadn't had to put on before.

I imagine it playing out where she almost seemed flattered that the great and powerful Captain Gangplank would call her up to assist in his epic fight against the Shadow Isles incursion. And Captain Gangplank would be playing it off like it was throwing the other captains a bone to even let them come along - as he's obviously too powerful to need 'help'.

In the end, they work together because otherwise Bilgewater would have been completely overrun, and neither of them want that. The mental gymnastics that both had to go through to make that temporary alliance right in their heads would probably have kept several psychologists busy for years.

I'll just leave this here: http://41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_me2v49lP7o1rawb5do1_1280.jpg

Shénzhì1 votes

Cheese..

Could just pluck a champion, rethink him/her and let that character been the binding between Miss Fortune and Gankplank. This curious benefactor named Rafen sounds interesting .. and gloomy. He could strike his own terms after some sort of demonstration. I just cannot see Miss Fortune and Gangplank being chivalrous .. at all. Bilgewater doesn't really need saving, does it? Set sail and be on their way or have a mental breakdown and save the day?

If not Rafen, I don't know. One more relevant, I guess. Maybe a persona that befits Bilgewater world but is a foreigner? Riven and her outdated story (maybe), place them into the ordinary lives of Bilgewater hardships to reveal this world more and then ????

Thinking about the curse it's some sort of disease, right? An illness, a sickness and something anti-life. Welp... Soraka wanders Runeterra and must have perceived The Harrowing happening, imagined people dying and in pain. Quickly she made haste in her own celestial being fashion. In a world of grief and misery she'd not only heal warriors against undead, she'd be the reason for Bilgewater to not self-destruct. Psychologically, I imagine Bilgewater residents yearn for salvation and forgiveness; a reason to persist in the world and not descend into madness. People may just assume Soraka is just that for them. to Miss Fortune and Gangplank they have no beef with Soraka, they know what it means and morale is raised and in that moment .... a MF-GP pact naturally pans out as you wrote. :) Maybe Soraka should probably remain clandestine through-out, though. Bilgewater may have attracted non-human things who dislike Soraka. A way of expressing a kind of diverse lawless culture. She's here against The Harrowing and not for Bilgewater. Imagine the Ionia-style sociological implications - Bilgewater could become a new place which is highly disagreeable. She may also know that Gangplank can rally an army. Ooooo! He's back, boys! >:)

Graves and TF already done that Broadway dance note out of Bilgewater.

Also, Riven's kit is poo. Jus' sayin...

Xyrne8 votes

I don't like the way they turned MF all dark and broody. I always saw her as "the fun one" of the ADCs. Not a fan of turning her into a generic "grr revenge revenge grr" character. They might as well change all her dialogue, because it doesn't gel with the character in the story at all. Nothing in that story makes me think that was a character on which MFs Strut ability would make any sense, much less with big floating hearts popping out of her. She doesn't sound like the type of person that would give her guns names. It just doesn't sound like Miss Fortune.

Chromatic Eagle2 votes

Yeah I'm actually concerned that they haven't learned the lesson of we don't need or want every champion to be brooding and vengeful. We want more Jinx's and Veigar's.

B1naryB0t1 votes

While I agree on concept, isn't that the character identity of Veigar? That he was locked up, creating anger and a desire to make everyone else suffer like he did?

Chromatic Eagle1 votes

Yes, but some of his side stories and in game portrayals/skins have him more comical. Fans love that side of him too.

Shénzhì1 votes

I like how MF is. Seems fine to me.

We have Yordles. Let's make do with their whimsical outbursts.

Xulsigae4 votes

I wonder about the timeline now. If they work together, they must do so in the future.

Celio Hogane HD1 votes

That was the past, so if gankplank is dead for good (wich i hope since retracting from it is just... meh) this harrowing will be pretty fun... for us, they will probably die all.

SAPIAS PUGNANTIS2 votes

Gangplank's definitely not dead. I believe Rito's idea when they mia'd Gangplank and disabled him ingame was partly to introduce new interactions between the game and the lore. As people have said before, they would have to be crazy to erase a recently reworked character.

MythicTwister3 votes

@Chromatic Eagle I feel like you're writing what I was thinking and lacked the words to express. This darker gangplank who is painted to be a fully blackhearted killer... that's not the gangplank I knew. I feel like they painted him as black as possible so it would be _ok _to abruptly kill him off. I know it's "en vogue" to up and destroy people with no buildup, but not when the character is freshly re-minted for the express purpose. :/ And yeah, it makes the harrowing event less believable. If their rivalry was so public, wouldn't he have been more wary? The way they had a simple "everyone left" plot device to excuse a bomb being planted, it feels forced.

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