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@Riot: Why are you making so many female Champions less buxom?

darkdill··17 votes·4,634 views

Seems like with each splash art update for the League women, you're making them less and less busty. I know the whole argument Guinsoo made in the past on "We only made them have big breasts to make them look female", but why does that mean you need to nerf their chest sizes now?

EDIT: Note that I don't have a problem with SOME Champions being flatter (it fits for Jinx, Irelia and Lux, for instance). But Riot is doing this to EVERY female, and that is what bugs me. Honestly, reducing Janna's cup size hurts her character a bit, as she's known to be an incorrigible flirt. And if they were to lower Miss Fortune's or Katarina's bust size, that would just be WRONG. They are basically MEANT to be walking sexbombs, and it's even canonical that Katarina uses her cleavage to distract her enemies. If her boobs were smaller, that would ruin that tactic.

And in the case of them nerfing Akali's size, I feel they could have done that more appropriately by having her wear sarashi (basically chest-bandages).

42 Comments

Ink Rose12 votes

As a small-breasted girl myself, I really quite like it. It adds variety to what is already the "League of Big Boobs", and shows these characters as more than just a sex symbol. Besides, does breast size really matter? If the girl has a fun character and good skill set, then her quality shouldn't depend in the size of her boobs.

And no, I'm not a feminist. XD I just think having small breasted characters as all as larger ones is honestly is nice way to show a diversity of characters, and makes flat chested girls like me feel a bit more included.

That is all <3

IcyPepper1 votes

Besides, does breast size really matter?

Between you and me, I honestly wonder why people (particularly dudes) really care about it when it comes to videogames.

Honestly, when playing characters like Vi , I'm more focused on punching people with my big boomy fists rather than "ohmergerd tits." Priorities, people.

prozak828 votes

all the jealous feminists have won. we all know you cant have big boobs AND be good at anything but being a slut right?

Diahane8 votes

The only thing I don't totally agree with about the recent trend is that they could achieve the desired and fair body diversity with their new characters, like they did with Jinx. I don't like the tweaking of old champions' images though, because it messes up with my visual memory of them. I can live with this, of course, but I think it's them being a bit overzealous going back to change past female champions to fit the new policy.

darkdill6 votes

This is what I was getting at. Making Janna so much smaller kinda hurts her character as an incorrigible flirt.

Neo Cyrus6 votes

Agreed, retconning everything to be flat as a board is more than "overzealous", it's pretty crazy.

LordHippoman7 votes

I think it's not that big a deal. It's a little embarrassing when I'm showing LoL to a friend and they're like:

"So, looking at this "sona", is this like a porn thing?"

"No. Just...uh...art style or something. Hey, look, you can play as a ghost horse!"

I think some of these champs have bigger issues (Morgana's waist is like, thinner than her ear), but I dunno. I'm not an expert on art or anatomy.

Raja Chachki6 votes

Ok....maybe then don't want to fight the feminists, and the feminists have gotten their message through. For me, I really don't mind. They are video game characters, nothing else. Some of them aren't even humanoid looking. So maybe get over it? I'm sure that real girls won't like to hear that you are complaining about flat chested video game characters. So just find a real girlfriend(or boyfriend of thats your thing) and ignore the flat chested anime.

I GONNA FK ON U5 votes

Flat chested girls are cute though :^)

Grand Medic5 votes

I think there should be a good range of breasts size among champions. Cause before it was either flat as a board or big enough to squash watermelons.

Criomhthann4 votes

It's all the fault of us evil Feminists Atheist Muslim Socialist Communist SJWs.

But seriously, are you sure it's an actual reduction in size or is it a change in perspective on the Splashes?

darkdill5 votes

Janna's sure looks like a reduction in size. No amount of perspective would shrink the look by that much.

She looks 2 cup sizes smaller, for crying out loud.

Glescoron2 votes

It's the perspective bro, sorry to say. :/

Merxamers4 votes

just think about all of the super-buxom champions that were released in a row a while back (back with the release of Zyra, Elise, etc.). Many people, including me, were exasperated with how riot couldn't design a female champion that wasn't an hourglass-figured sexpot. They've since gotten better, and i for one am happy to see female champions with different figures. Sorry if every female champion has to have E-cup breasts for you to be happy, but i'm sure you'll get over it somehow.

prozak828 votes

just think about all of the super-buxom champions that were released in a row a while back (back with the release of Zyra, Elise, etc.). Many people, including me, were exasperated with how riot couldn't design a female champion that wasn't an hourglass-figured sexpot. They've since gotten better, and i for one am happy to see female champions with different figures. Sorry if every female champion has to have E-cup breasts for you to be happy, but i'm sure you'll get over it somehow.

so to you if a female has an hourglass figure they are good at nothing but sex?

Merxamers5 votes

just think about all of the super-buxom champions that were released in a row a while back (back with the release of Zyra, Elise, etc.). Many people, including me, were exasperated with how riot couldn't design a female champion that wasn't an hourglass-figured sexpot. They've since gotten better, and i for one am happy to see female champions with different figures. Sorry if every female champion has to have E-cup breasts for you to be happy, but i'm sure you'll get over it somehow.

so to you if a female has an hourglass figure they are good at nothing but sex?

that doesn't even remotely resemble what i said in the slightest.

prozak825 votes

just think about all of the super-buxom champions that were released in a row a while back (back with the release of Zyra, Elise, etc.). Many people, including me, were exasperated with how riot couldn't design a female champion that wasn't an hourglass-figured sexpot. They've since gotten better, and i for one am happy to see female champions with different figures. Sorry if every female champion has to have E-cup breasts for you to be happy, but i'm sure you'll get over it somehow.

so to you if a female has an hourglass figure they are good at nothing but sex?

that doesn't even remotely resemble what i said in the slightest.

yes it is. you are taking a look at the champion and assuming they are just whores or something if they have a sexy body. unless theres something else in the lore or something that is making you think that way?

GenoXx3 votes

Because somehow kids below ten started playing this....so they are the pulling the GTA move---only GTA doesn't give a fuck and continues what they are doing.

Stars Shaper3 votes

Because genetics makes so ppl are different: As we have Garen, Ez and Yasuo we have Ahri, Jinx and Sona.

Can't this community be happy with what we have? Some girls are going to be prosperous, others won't.

Neon Robot2 votes

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Stars Shaper2 votes

Indeed I can agree with that.

My vision of a "right" or "wrong" shaped character comes from his role. You can't have a skinny guy/gal be a melee fighter with tanky perks without something to cover for your weaknesses (Read Vi's punches).

Neither you can be a fatty/bulky guy/gal if you wanna be agile (in these terms, big boobs might be not ideal too xD).

junglerboy162 votes

I don't know man, Gragas can get around, and he's obviously the biggest of them all. Gragas Bodyslam sprinter.

Vekkna1 votes

But you're missing out on the beauty of fantasy by limiting champs to conventional logic. Juxtaposition can be interesting, cool, and funny. Like tiny Poppy with her giant fucking hammer. Or skinny-ass Jinx with her huge fucking rocket launcher.

The same thing applies to equally illogical things. The most common example is female fighters or tanks in their metal bikinis. Or maybe the average-sized male with a massive sword.

The most underutilized, in my opinion, is the big/fat yet agile character. But in League we even have plenty of that with Zac, Gragas, Malphite, Maokai, etc. At this point, basically the only thing we're missing is a fat old lady, and when we get her she better move like Irelia...because that would be awesome/hilarious.

IMTOOJUICY3 votes

i dunno, man, i think riot still plumps them up on the appropriate girls. for that cinematic A New Dawn, when i saw my waifu zyra's plant boobies, i guffawed and clapped my wrists together like a retard.

Neon Robot2 votes

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darkdill5 votes

So apparently Janna having a D-cup is "politically incorrect"?

...makes total sense...

Neon Robot2 votes

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darkdill2 votes

Sounds like she takes more than just games way too seriously.

Reminds me of Jack Thompson. Thankfully he got disbarred for abuse of power.

catraven2 votes

So apparently Janna having a D-cup is "politically incorrect"?

...makes total sense...

her face is pc instead, so "it's ok"....

catraven2 votes

The gaming development community these days is very enamored with buzz-word centric activism. Part of that is re-editing characters into more politically correct variations. If you read the Twitters of many of Riot's staff members you can easily get a feel that the majority of them are very much liberal in their political and philosophical leanings. Consider the fact that most of them are friends with other aspects of the games industry who share those same leanings and you have a very large self congratulatory echo chamber.

qft. same as hollywood. the whole region of california and new york are like this.

Glescoron2 votes

I don't really see it. I think you're mistaken because the picture's drawn from a lower perspective than her old one, meaning you're looking slightly up at her chest. I'm pretty sure they're still the same size.

Dotintheparadox2 votes

Yeah, I'm the guy with the perverted DA, and I think Riot's doing a good job now with this. It makes more sense for a lot of female champs to be smaller chested anyways, Ashe is an archer, women with ahem plentiful endowments, have a lot of trouble actually drawing an arrow all the way back. Leona and Diana, are most likely very sporty in physique. Akali... she should be smaller, I would miss the glorious side-boob though.

That actually makes me think, why are so many Ionians so well endowed? They're Asian, I know Asians aren't always like that, but demographics suggest that a lot of them should be smaller, except Sona, because that's just HER now, it's a little stupid definitely, but it's actually a part of her character by this point.

But otherwise, it's good that they've been doing this recently, not every women has the same body type, and it makes them work better for their field.

darkdill3 votes

So what about Syndra? She's Ionian and I'm guessing at least a C/D-cup.

Dotintheparadox3 votes

Could also be an anti-grav push-up bra, best on all of Runeterra!

darkdill3 votes

Lol, maybe.

Anyhow, I really do hope they don't nerf Sona. That'd be taking away from who she is. People associate her with that huge rack of hers so she isn't just another Hatsune Miku.

Ophelmark2 votes

Seems like with each splash art update for the League women, you're making them less and less busty. I know the whole argument Guinsoo made in the past on "We only made them have big breasts to make them look female", but why does that mean you need to nerf their chest sizes now?

EDIT: Note that I don't have a problem with SOME Champions being flatter (it fits for Jinx, Irelia and Lux, for instance). But Riot is doing this to EVERY female, and that is what bugs me. Honestly, reducing Janna's cup size hurts her character a bit, as she's known to be an incorrigible flirt. And if they were to lower Miss Fortune's or Katarina's bust size, that would just be WRONG. They are basically MEANT to be walking sexbombs, and it's even canonical that Katarina uses her cleavage to distract her enemies. If her boobs were smaller, that would ruin that tactic.

And in the case of them nerfing Akali's size, I feel they could have done that more appropriately by having her wear sarashi (basically chest-bandages).

I call bull on that statement.They did that cause they had the freedom to do whatever they wanted to do at that time.Now they follow a checklist of what not to do to piss angry feminazis and SJWS.Another reason is that with their push of E-Sports they want to look more serious to the general audience.Your statement about Mf and Katarina is right on the money but unfortunately i think they are not going to backdown.It's a shame cause i still love to play this game.

darkdill1 votes

Guinsoo actually did say that years ago.

Sources: http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=6974712#post6974712 http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=6134758#post6134758 http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=6134703#post6134703 http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=6133044#post6133044

Dreamspitter2 votes

Better question OP, why less BOOTY? Gangplank

FioraWillCarry2 votes

There is seriously a thread about this ?

Ninpire1 votes

im so confused where are the pictures lemme seeee

Zedack1 votes

Janna needs a sweater or something. she's wearing practically nothing.

ciaô1 votes

bump this

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