Necrit Darkin theory video
Alright this stuff is solid watch to get hype.
Yes there is a lotta Swain and Shurima in there.
Alright this stuff is solid watch to get hype.
Yes there is a lotta Swain and Shurima in there.
Not a theory I really agree with for a few reasons.
I might have more thoughts later but for now that's what I've got.
I find it funny that, even though Necrit has an entire Discord of lore theorists/ enthusiasts, yet he still somehow misinterpreted the prison Varus visited as the Tomb of the Emperors and no one corrected him on it.
Also, how on earth did Necrit and his lackeys conclude that the Darkin's point of origin was consumed by the Void? He just talks it up as if it's explicitly mentioned in lore, to my memory it is not. Or he's just pushing a theory for legitimacy with no evidence to back it up.
Yeah I have to say, I would only ever watch Necrit for his wild assumptions and how much obvious shit him and his group misinterpret.
See my answer to your posts.
"though Necrit has an entire Discord of lore theorists/ enthusiasts,"
We have no impact on what Necrit decide to put in his videos, only him decides.
"how on earth did Necrit and his lackeys conclude that the Darkin's point of origin was consumed by the Void?"
"much obvious shit him and his group misinterpret."
Im very active on this server (like daily) And i found absolutly no marks of this theory being discussed there
That's unfortunate to hear. Based on previous videos I've seen, Necrit makes it sound like he collaborates with his Discord to help build these theories. I only assumed that he would socialize there often. Perhaps to do some fact checking or maybe at least get a few second opinions. Evidently he needs to be more open with his Discord as I'm sure someone there would have pointed out the primary flaws for him.
You could always swing by if you'd like its open to anyone who wants to join
It's more like we gather information, try to help him and meme a lot. In general we do not interfere in the process of video-making, that's his content.
"at least get a few second opinions."
Yeah that would be ideal, but i think we're just under 1000 people. Hard to do.
I think this theory was created during a voicechat (i never participate or hear voicechats) So i have no idea what happened
I think this theory was created during a voicechat (i never participate or hear voicechats) So i have no idea what happened
If its during voicechat, then he really sucks and promoting the time when they are happening. Also limiting it to certain people would hinder the amount of sources one could extract from...this is why chat seems rather more useful.
he really sucks
That's not really fair to blame Necrit for trying to organize an active event where people can participate.
A long time ago, I accepted deep inside me that i gotta live without a good microphone.
why chat seems rather more useful.
True, that's why we still use them the majority of the time
That's not really fair to blame Necrit for trying to organize an active event where people can participate.
A long time ago, I accepted deep inside me that i gotta live without a good microphone.
True, that's why we still use them the majority of the time
Posting a youtube video about a future event or having specific dates for livestreams for such theory crafting or lore explanations can do wonders. If he does this with a small circle of people then it will lead to a less accurate predition. You need input from a lot of reliable sources (sources that do know the lore) to help with this. Otherwise the issues will be brought up just like they were on this thread. I for one never even heard of him doing voicechats with fans or anything so interactive, he never posts anything about future interactions on his youtube or discord page at all, and by the time I see some info about it, its already over.
Yeah he really likes to jump to conclusions,which is why I generally don't give much about his theories.
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I find it funny that, even though Necrit has an entire Discord of lore theorists/ enthusiasts, yet he still somehow misinterpreted the prison Varus visited as the Tomb of the Emperors and no one corrected him on it.
Also, how on earth did Necrit and his lackeys conclude that the Darkin's point of origin was consumed by the Void? He just talks it up as if it's explicitly mentioned in lore, to my memory it is not. Or he's just pushing a theory for legitimacy with no evidence to back it up.
Yeah I have to say, I would only ever watch Necrit for his wild assumptions and how much obvious shit him and his group misinterpret.
Necrit does all this theory crafting without much input from fans on his discord server. To be frank I never even see him duscuss anything with them on the main discussion boards there. He just posts his stuff and leaves.
I mean he made a huge mistake in postulating that current Volibear in lore doesnt look like te in-game model, when in fact he was shown in Ornns promo art to be the exact same appearance as the in-game model (and his source is from a description of Volibear after a battle, quite a lot of time ago that he would have time to heal).
This video proves how unreliable and uncredible this person is. 10/10 would never recommend him
Don't watch theory videos if you only want confirmed information. Even after reading the comments here I see nothing in Necrit's video that is wrong lore wise. The theory fits well into the universe.
- "What pool exists in Noxus? The Immortal Bastion? We've never heard of such a thing." -Sharjo, please read Mordekaiser's lore.
- The whole thing about Aurelion does only slightly weaken the fact that they were around the universe before attacking runeterra AND it could have happened millenia before Aurelion's visit to runeterra as far as I know.
- All the points that say "it is just a theory" don't tell anything because it is in fact just a theory. Nobody ever said something else. This includes the "the darkin planet was being consumed by the void".
- About the buried Rhaast thing: It was not clearly stated that Rhaast was found, just that he was brought to the capital. He could have been buried for some time because someone thought it would be safer than in the immortal bastion.
- The tomb Varus visited clearly was the tomb of the emperors since it mentions snake carvings (like in Sivir's/Cassiopeia's lore) and it makes sense because it obviously contained healing waters.
- The tomb of the emperors could have been re-opened to put the darkin into it, considering that maybe Renekton and Xerath were in a seperate chamber, which would make sense in my opinion because you would not want the corpse of the emperor in the same chamber as the most powerful destructive being you know about.
Don't watch theory videos if you only want confirmed information. Even after reading the comments here I see nothing in Necrit's video that is wrong lore wise. The theory fits well into the universe.
Aurelion has been around basically since the beginning of time, right? So, its safe to say that he knows about the story of his universe.
Once that said, the quote of his lore that i made is from the times where Aurelion was in Mt Targon, so, it happened after his first visit to Runeterra and not a millenia before that.
Anyways is a tiny detail that, as you said only slightly weakens the theory.
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And the thing about the Tomb of the Emperors: Assuming that its the same place only because both places have snake statues is not enough evidence to say that is "clearly the same place"... The Video "Descent into the Tomb" shows the actual tomb and there are no statues of crocodiles (Renekton) and jackals(Nasus).
Anyways... Why the Tomb of Emperors would have statues of Renekton and Nasus in first place? They are not emperors, and it would be weird to put statues of generals that are alive in the Tomb of the Emperors if the statues where put there before the fall of Shurima. If the statues were put afterwards... by who? and why put a statue of Nasus?
Also, its important to mention that the story of Varus decribes the place was in a "ruined city", but we know that the City of Shurima is not in ruins anymore (and it would make no sense for the theory if the story of Varus happened before the ressurection of Azir).
Oh, and the story of Varus do not mentions the traps that were in the Tomb of Emperors and that thing was full of traps... instead, it mentions Warding sigils.... and those were not mentioned in the lore of the Renekton, Sivir, Xerath or Cassiopeia as far as i remember.
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PS: About the point "6)" Renekton and Xerath were in the same chamber, that is not even debatable since Renekton threw himself to the tomb with Xerath and Xerath corrupted his mind during the imprisonment because they were together in the tomb. https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/1/17/Fall_of_the_Empire_5.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20140914004815
The theory has flaws, simple as. We're discussing said flaws.
Aside from all the holes that were already pointed out by Sharjo and Whyte Lyon... There is one tiny detail about Rhaast that Necrit forgot: Rhaast was found burried in Noxus, not inside of a well with water and blood was never mentioned in his awakening as far as i know.
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Also, about the Void:
I think that Runeterra is the first planet of their universe that makes contact with the Void... Why do you ask? Because Aurelion Sol. In his lore, he finds a portal towards the Void or something like that... and he hears a laugh comming from there. What about it? Well... When he hears the laugh, looks at the void beast and the portals, he does not say "Oh man, that is the Void, the thing that has destroyed other planets before"... no, what he says is "... the Voidborn don't know how things work in this universe" that means that they are new in that universe and after that he says "... whatever intelligence that controls this Void incursion" wich means, again, that the void is just entering to their dimenssion.
"Rhaast was found burried in Noxus,"
I tought he was found outside of Noxus, then transported back to Noxus (Kayn stole Rhaast during the trip) Is that right ?
I tought he was found outside of Noxus, then transported back to Noxus (Kayn stole Rhaast during the trip) Is that right ?
Well... the lore says "to seek out a darkin weapon recently unearthed in Noxus"... maybe it was in Noxian territory and not the Noxian City itself but my point is that Rhaast was found while digging/underground and not in a well.
But as Ninja0Heaven pointed out, maybe Rhaast was burried for some reason after he left the "well" of the theory.
Alright, thanks for the clarifications !
Honestly, I'm sick and tired of everything having to be explained with the Void, it devalues actual threats and just makes the lore seem bland if everything links back to 'em voidborn.
It's a pretty nice theory done from a scrap.
But yet, still a theory.
Not sure why you get so A N G E R Y
over it.