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On the topic of Ionia.

Ralanr·Sep 1, 2015·2 votes·970 views

Can we please not go back there for a grand event for a while? I get that people like Ionia a lot, just look at all the champs that are in Ionia. (cause Kinkou order) . That's 13. 12 if you remove Kennan, 13-14 if you put in . Then we have who is from Ionia but is loyal to Demacia. What about the other factions in comparison? If I miss any or misplace any please let me know for better comparison.

Noxus: (Allied with it so might as well be Noxian) (CAW CAW CAW) (Cause she's still with the spirit of Noxus, not what it's become) . So that's about 12, 11 if you disagree with Riven.

DEMACIA: (LASERS EVERYWHERE!) (the champ page says Demacia, but her lore needs rewriting because it ties her as directly under the league. Though a LOT of champ lore needs rewriting, so that complaint isn't strong). So that's about 11. 12 with

Bandle City: . About 7. Yes I know we have more Yordles, I'll explain below. If counts for Bandle City then it's 8. I don't like counting her as an X champ for two factions though since it kinda sets numbers out of wack.

Freljord: . 12.

Piltover: . 5

Zuan: (MUNDO!) . 9.

Bilgewater: . 7.

Shurima: (Though his new lore still needs to come out) . 8.

Shadow Isles: (apparently he's Demacian though. So I don't know) (Alas poor Yorick) . 10.

Void: . 7, though I feel like I'm missing someone.

Mt. Targon: . 3.

Kumungu jungle: . 3.

Independent/single representative: (honestly thought he was Ionian)

Champs where I'm not sure: (I know her parents are from Noxus, but I'm not sure that makes her Noxian) (Cause Institute of War is gone) (I'm not sure he's affiliate with the other Yordles of Bandle City) (Zuan?) (Same as Fiddlesticks) (not sure) (Fiddlesticks problem)

If I've missed any please tell me.

So it looks like out of all the factions, Kumungu Jungle and Mt.Targon have the fewest champions. Can we go to one of those places next for a lore expansion? Personally I'd prefer Mt.Targon.

I get that a lot of people love Ionia. But there's more to Valoran than Ionia and its conflict with Noxus. Can we please explore Valoran?

Edit 1: The first of no many no doubt. Edit 2: Put in a independent/single representative section.

12 Comments

GenoXxSep 1, 20151 votes

Orianna and Ezreal are Piltover

FillaiSep 1, 20151 votes

Rammus is Shurimian, Nidalee, Zyra and Rengar are from Kumungu Jungles, Alistar is from Great Barier probably near Mt. Targon, Zilean is from Urtistan ( i am not sure how to write it), Nocture, Shaco, Fiddlestick peerhaps are Demons the same as Tahm Kench but its not confirmed, Sona is Demacian, i personally think that Soraka is from Spirit Realm just like Bard, Ezreal is from Piltover, Evelynn is from Shadow Isles i think. You missed Wukong who is from Plague Jungles, about rest i dont know, becasue of retcon.

RalanrSep 1, 20151 votes

I thought Wukong was considered Ionian? Updating Rammus and putting in Kumungu jungle.

BroLaneSep 1, 20151 votes

Eve is from Shadow Isles. Kayle is associated with Demacia. Brand and Aatrox are independent.

The SoulforgedSep 1, 20151 votes

Put Poppy under Demacia mostly because she's the embassador there and thus stays there most of the time. Although, I do think she fights her loyalties for Bandle City if they ever had a complaint.

GreenLoreSep 1, 20151 votes

An ionia event doesn't necessarily need a new champion. The bilgewater event didn't come with a new champ(tahm is associated with that place,but is technically independent).

Anyway the idea of an ionia event isn't about wanting a new champ,but getting the retcon about the noxus-vs-ionia-thing done.

RalanrSep 1, 20151 votes

It is because of Tahm's association with Bilgwater that leads me to think an event leads to a new champ one way or another. I'll admit it's not the best view.

The Freljord event didn't get closure. I don't believe we were ever told who won the war of three sisters (Sure there is Queen Ashe, but she could just be Queen of her tribe). The battle could still be going on for all we know. Same could be said for the Noxus occupation of Ionia.

I do enjoy Ionia, but I feel it's gotten more exposure than everything else. Like Demacia, the other superpower nation on Valoran and the other one fighting Noxus.

GreenLoreSep 2, 20151 votes

Yeah,but Tahm had really nothing to do with the whole bilgewater event,he was released a patch before the event and the only mention of him in the entire event was a small figurine of him in one of the "explore bilgewater"-sections.

Freljord war was never concluded,it is still being fought.I mean its not even in a state where you'd expect it to end anytime soon,with Lissandra still pretending to be ashes ally (queen ashe was done before the event and represented how ashe more or less became officially the queen,with only sejuanis tribe being against her).

I think Ionia getting this much exposure might be simply out of cultural reasons.Ionia simply embodies most asian real-life nations,so it offers a lot of cultural things that you can use as the basic concept for a champion. Other nations rarely offer that much cultural diversity(Shurima is pretty much just egypt,possibly with some arabian influences) or have to share it with other nations(demacia,noxus,the shadow isles and to some extent targon all draw inspiration from medieval europe). Even more favorable for ionia is that asian culture is quite popular,stuff like ninjas,samurai,chinese dragons,etc.are all well known and thus make pretty good basic concepts for champions.

RalanrSep 2, 20151 votes

Can't really argue with popular demand. I've never seen Ionia as very diverse in its culture, rather I saw it as, "This is the Asian section."

I know there are multiple cultures spanning the centuries of civilization in Asia (I probably can't even scratch the surface) but Ionia just seems all united as a single culture with many subcultures.

GreenLoreSep 2, 20152 votes

Well you aren't entirely wrong about Ionia being the asia-section. Its just that asian culture is rather well knwon compared to others.

Lets take shurima which is pretty much the desert/egypt section.How much of egyptian culture is really that popular?Most people know about pharaohs,slavery,mummys,~2-4 gods and that snakes&scarabs were kind of a big deal,thats about it. Compare that to asia,where you have samurai,ninjas,spiritualism,monks,chinese warriors(ala xin Zhao),a huge amount of yokai(though only a few are really popular),chinese dragons,indian mythology,buddhist mythology,etc.

aztec&mayan culture are also really diverse,but there isn't even a nation that represents those,simply because these cultures aren't that well knwon(though I still hope that we get an cultre based around these in the jungles).

And while european cultures are pretty popular too,they get divided into several nations,while everything related to asia ends up in ionia.

greenbird76Sep 10, 20151 votes

Ionia is different from most of the other regions in that it has significantly more factions than others do. Demacia- One faction Noxus - Two factions: Du Couteau royalty and Swain's loyalists Piltover - Two-ish factions: Law abiding citizens and Jinx Zaun - 0. Zaun's champions don't really ally or fight. The closest you can get is Viktor and Blitz's creator, but Piddilly isn't a champion. Shadow Isles - 2-3: Lucian and the undead. There is some degree of deception between the undead, but overall, they seem to be pretty unified. Bilgewater - 3 - MF, GP, and everyone else. No one else really feels hell bent on killing each other in this region. Most of them are fish though. Void -3 -Kassadin, intelligent voidlings, Rek'Sai Shurima - 2 - Azir supporters vs. Xerath supporters Freljord - 3 - the tribes Mt. Targon - 2 factions - sun and moon Jungle - 0 - three independent agents Ionia - 4 plus a bunch of independents - Ionian government, the Kinkou, the Order of the Shadows + Syndra, and the school of Wuju. On top of that, you have Yasuo, Lee Sin, Varus, Soraka, and Ahri. You also have the Noxus-Ionia war refugees which left Riven and Warwick in Ionia.

There's a lot more potential for story telling in Ionia because of all these different agendas. Even if Ionia doesn't receive a new champion or map, it still has the most potential for lore. We thought that the development of the four interesting characters in Bilgewater was cool? Imagine all the ways you could take the story when you have more than four actors.

RalanrSep 10, 20151 votes

3 factions if you count the Rakkor tribe.

I'm not saying that we shouldn't go back to Ionia. I'd just rather see the other factions expanded upon.

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